Yes look at last years deal it was not great but it was a hell of a lot better than the first and second offer!. If you don't fight you lose if you do fight you have a chance if we all fight together we will get a good deal for all!.TrueBlueTerrier wrote:I don't but I certainly think it can mitigate it and make it less painful for those that are left and those that are willing to leave. You don't ask for what you are willing to settle for in negotiations you aim high and hope the inevitable compromise is somewhere above the worst position you can accept.pickaname wrote:Meaning what? The CWU has the power to stop these job losses? You think?
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Think the people of Portugal might disagree with that.Night Tonic wrote:I don't disagree with you at all borders and to see a job I've been doing for nearly 30 years go like this is heartbreaking. I just don't see striking on its own, as a way to change anything though. A banner is no match for a bulldozer, honourable or not.
They defeated their entire armed forces with bunches of carnations
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There's nothing like setting your sights highBig Daz wrote:What is needed if RM wish to reduce staff numbers is decent early retirement packages unfortunatley for us all the pension money is reserved for :lfo :cfo
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Whatever happens, we must fight all the way for the best terms for all of us - those that go and those who remain.
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I do believe we were united at the last strike action and I do believe we were winning and I do believe we were sadly let down by a leadership who put politics before membership.paul_skinback wrote:United we stand divided we fall. look at the last stirke many could not be botherd to vote and many lost the bottle to strike. people power always wimns jsut many cant see it. Loosers!pickaname wrote:Meaning what? The CWU has the power to stop these job losses? You think?
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The members got what they voted for/didnt bother voting for!!!!!
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Big Daz wrote:The members got what they voted for/didnt bother voting for!!!!!
And they are a whinging at our place. Especialy the ones that bottled it and gave up the cowards. Now they are crying like the babies that they are and can go to hell for all I care!
"I once asked a girl if she was an undertaker cos i had a stiff that needed seeing too"
" I once went into a watch menders, slapped me knob on the desk and said can you put a couple of hands on that?"
" I once went into a watch menders, slapped me knob on the desk and said can you put a couple of hands on that?"
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royal mail will do as they please.
just look at pegasus..if u don't like it..they use EA.
talking about us starting at 7am!..the union can say what they want..it'll still happen.
sad but true.
just look at pegasus..if u don't like it..they use EA.
talking about us starting at 7am!..the union can say what they want..it'll still happen.
sad but true.
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They only do as they please with consent if you all stood together it does not mean strike but withdraw your goodwill as a whole. And DO YOUR JOBS PROPERLY you will see result's in your favour and not their's.firefox wrote:royal mail will do as they please.
just look at pegasus..if u don't like it..they use EA.
talking about us starting at 7am!..the union can say what they want..it'll still happen.
sad but true.
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Well said.k979aaa wrote:They only do as they please with consent if you all stood together it does not mean strike but withdraw your goodwill as a whole. And DO YOUR JOBS PROPERLY you will see result's in your favour and not their's.firefox wrote:royal mail will do as they please.
just look at pegasus..if u don't like it..they use EA.
talking about us starting at 7am!..the union can say what they want..it'll still happen.
sad but true.
Look at he silly fiasco over the Red Arrows being allowed to fly over the opening of the Olympics 2012. Banned cos they are too British and may offend all the foreign visitors for phuqs seke! That was until so many people got up and signed a petition to Gordon the funny speaking out of touch twat at 10 Downing Street and now they have rescinded! People power rules OK?
PS before I go I must spank a few r's wipes :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :mfo :mfo :mfo :mfo :mfo :mfo :mfo
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" I once went into a watch menders, slapped me knob on the desk and said can you put a couple of hands on that?"
" I once went into a watch menders, slapped me knob on the desk and said can you put a couple of hands on that?"
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You think that not sticking together is going to help matters,Do your job as it should be done and don't give an smidge see how far your office gets when you stop giving,you should see what the dappy managers have got in our office,EXAMPLE: you can only have the delivery time on O/T not the whole duty,ANSWER, that's fine find someone else to come in on their day off.Result:the delivery don't go out or they get someone from the M/C to go out on it and it costs them more.Last weekend we had more delivery's fail or not go anywhere than in all the time i've worked there.k979aaa wrote:They only do as they please with consent if you all stood together it does not mean strike but withdraw your goodwill as a whole. And DO YOUR JOBS PROPERLY you will see result's in your favour and not their's.firefox wrote:royal mail will do as they please.
just look at pegasus..if u don't like it..they use EA.
talking about us starting at 7am!..the union can say what they want..it'll still happen.
sad but true.
This is the result of the staff being ground into the floor to such a point that the good will has gone,staff work their time and no more if they can't fit the delivery in then it stays and staff that have been on sorting S/A's have been going out with it,that to has a knock on effect,they have now said the S/A's are going nobody knows what is going to happen after that.it ain't big it ain't clever but sometimes you have to make a stand.
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bandit650 wrote:You think that not sticking together is going to help matters,Do your job as it should be done and don't give an smidge see how far your office gets when you stop giving,you should see what the dappy managers have got in our office,EXAMPLE: you can only have the delivery time on O/T not the whole duty,ANSWER, that's fine find someone else to come in on their day off.Result:the delivery don't go out or they get someone from the M/C to go out on it and it costs them more.Last weekend we had more delivery's fail or not go anywhere than in all the time i've worked there.k979aaa wrote:They only do as they please with consent if you all stood together it does not mean strike but withdraw your goodwill as a whole. And DO YOUR JOBS PROPERLY you will see result's in your favour and not their's.firefox wrote:royal mail will do as they please.
just look at pegasus..if u don't like it..they use EA.
talking about us starting at 7am!..the union can say what they want..it'll still happen.
sad but true.
This is the result of the staff being ground into the floor to such a point that the good will has gone,staff work their time and no more if they can't fit the delivery in then it stays and staff that have been on sorting S/A's have been going out with it,that to has a knock on effect,they have now said the S/A's are going nobody knows what is going to happen after that.it ain't big it ain't clever but sometimes you have to make a stand.
"I once asked a girl if she was an undertaker cos i had a stiff that needed seeing too"
" I once went into a watch menders, slapped me knob on the desk and said can you put a couple of hands on that?"
" I once went into a watch menders, slapped me knob on the desk and said can you put a couple of hands on that?"