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Royal Mail told 'lies' to the public when it scrapped morning postal delivery as part of cost-cutting

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Royal Mail told lies to the public over changes that brought a dramatic deterioration in postal deliveries, the industry watchdog believes.

Ed Mayo, the chief of the Government's new consumer champion, Consumer Focus, hit out over the cost-cutting reforms that now mean most homes and businesses do not get their post until the afternoon.

And he told the Daily Mail that mail bosses had effectively lied when announcing the end of the second post in 2004 when, in practice, it was the first, morning, delivery that was being scrapped.

Mr Mayo said Consumer Focus, formed from the National Consumer Council, Postwatch and Energywatch, was keen to challenge the changes.

'I think the public have been sold a pup on this,' he added.

'We have gone from having two deliveries a day to one. We were told it was the second delivery that was being axed, but that has just turned out to be a lie.'

He complained the later deliveries were part of a wider pattern of reduced service.

This includes cutting post box collections, including abolishing those on Sundays, and shutting thousands of post offices.

'There are so many ways in which the service quality has been eroded,' he said.

Mr Mayo said the result was a very serious deterioration in the service for the nation' s businesses.

In some areas, the mail arrives so late in the day that it is impossible to get out an order or response in the same day's post because it is too late for the last collection.

Mr Mayo added: 'I think for businesses, receiving mail in the mornings is a lifeline.

'This change has cut away the ability for businesses - particularly those in rural areas - to receive mail and respond on the same day.'

He went on: 'The regulator is due to review this . . . This is something that we may well look at campaigning on.'

The Daily Mail revealed the scheme to deliver 60 per cent of post after midday in August last year.

Bizarrely, Royal Mail tried to pin the blame for the later deliveries on an EU directive which limits the speed large lorries, including those carrying post, can travel.

It said the slowing of its lorries had meant moving back delivery times for all.

In reality, they are part of a wider cost- cutting exercise that will slash the workforce by 40,000 and reduce overtime payments.

Royal Mail responded to the criticism from Mr Mayo, saying: 'Our commitment to customers following the move to single delivery is unchanged and is to deliver all of the day's mail to most addresses by 2pm, with slightly later deliveries in rural areas.'
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They lied to us ??? NO WAY !

- Spiffy, UK, 11/10/2008 0:22


What do you expect in this country? Surely not the truth? The whole lot is corrupt from top to bottom, the lot rotten to the core.

- Mark R, Coventry UK, 11/10/2008 1:18


Prior to the 'improvements in service' my post was delivered regularly at 8.30 am every day. After the improvements it is normally 2.00 pm when the post is delivered but may be as late as 4.00 pm. As an individual this is irritating but not dramatic. The effect on business users can only be imagined.

- Bernard, Scotland, 11/10/2008 3:22


Mr. Mayo is wasting his time even thinking about campaigning over this, it is a done deal, as are the post office closures, the roots of which can be traced back to persuading pensioners it would be a good idea to have their pension paid into a bank, ha!

- richard, worcester, 11/10/2008 3:46


They can get away with giving us a rubbish service because we do not have any choices about what postal service we use for our letters.The goverment need to change it so we the consumer do have some choices then they will have ti improve.

- john, Milton Keynes, 11/10/2008 5:29


Yet again it takes an overpaid government quango to tell us what the public already knew.

- Mo, London, 11/10/2008 6:12


One delivery a day is all you get over here so what is the problem.

- Robert, Sumter, USA, 11/10/2008 6:16


Lies and deception have become an integral part of doing business these days, and the bigger the business the bigger the lies.

Royal Mail are a bigger joke than the Royle Male so wonderfully played by actor Ricky Tomlinson.

- Rigger, Western Australia, 11/10/2008 6:32


No matter what guff Royal Mail bosses put forth in defence of their now appalling mail delivery service they can't deny that the service is awful compared with the past. However the up side for them is that their remunerations are astronomical compared to former times for lying and deceiving the public and wrecking Royal Mail.

- Terence, Hereford, UK, 11/10/2008 7:36


I don't understand the comment about a second delivery being abolished. I thought that went thirty years ago. Certainly we have never, ever had a second delivery. Our 'first post' usually arrives at about 2pm. It is outrageous. The Post Office queues are horrendous as no one knows how many stamps to put on each parcel and so each item has to be weighed. Hopeless.

- sallie Wall, derby, 11/10/2008 7:52


has he only just realised this--has he been asleep for the last few years?

- terry sullivan, morden england, 11/10/2008 7:53


they have been doing this practice for years. nothing new here then.

- christine, bristol, 11/10/2008 7:59


The Post service is absolutely terrible now.
Some days there are no deliveries to us, yet the next day we have loads of post.
Perhaps the post person has a day off and the round is not covered.
Collections from pillar boxes/collection points are shockingly bad.
Get a grip Royal Mail and really improve the service or allow proper competition in to shake you up.
And NO bonuses for the Directors, executive, chairperson etc this year. You have NOT earned it.

- Kenroy., Leatherhead, Surrey, UK., 11/10/2008 8:10


How does this stack up with their adverts currently running on TV whereby they reckon that they are helping business is so many ways?

- Mike, Southampton: UK, 11/10/2008 8:24


So, the Royal Mail is committed to delivering to most addresses (except in rural areas) by 2.00pm. Could they explain why our mail was not delivered any earlier that 2.45pm every day this week. And we live two miles away from the main sorting office in Brighton.

- Orson Carte, BRIGHTON, Sussex, 11/10/2008 8:26


Guess who is on a "performance related" bonus to get the Post Office ready for privatisation? Costs have to be cut drastically to make this feasable. The quickest way to do this is to run the organisation into the ground, cutting staff and services, closing the majority of rural POs and completely forgetting the public service foundations of the once mighty institution. Let's hope they do not post his bonus cheque to him, it might not get collected, delivered or "lost in the post" If is payable in over a PO counter and he lives in the country, I hope he has to drive 60 miles through wind, rain or snow to collect his thirty shillings in silver.

- schjnapper, Mainz Germany, 11/10/2008 8:31


If they hadn't scrapped the mail trains they wouldn't be restricted by the EU on speed and there would not be so many lorries on the road.

A green winner if I ever heard one it cuts polulation and congestion.

- IY, Northants, 11/10/2008 8:46


before the one post delivery you could go out at 7.00am and start your round now you are not allowed out till turned 9.00am the rounds or walks have been increased by 25% on average and take about 4hrs to complete hardly rocket science then to work out that if you are on the end of a round your post wont arrive till the afternoon,its called progress.

- pat, solihull, 11/10/2008 8:54


In Australia we have only one home mail delivery during the week.
Christmas there is an extra due to the load.
So what is the deal.
Talk about being looked after. Box holders are usually the ones that get the extra delivery.

- Kevin, Australia, 11/10/2008 9:06


Royal Mail, this is a misnomer, perhaps " Slow Mail" would be more appropriate - you are part of declining standards in this country - your response to the criticism is not an answer. You have been cutting costs to the detriment of the service. You can fool some of the people some of the time but not all the people all of the time.

- Terence, UK, 11/10/2008 9:07


What a shock the Post Office lying! That's all they have been doing while they shut post offices.

- Susan, London, 11/10/2008 9:17


Royal Mail is the only company I know that has a captive audience, i.e. the whole country of people who don't have much of a choice but to post most of their standard correspondence through them, and fails to make money out of this situation. Bunch of idiots as far as I am concerned.

- Anon, Milton Keynes, UK, 11/10/2008 9:36
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The Post service is absolutely terrible now.
Some days there are no deliveries to us, yet the next day we have loads of post.
Perhaps the post person has a day off and the round is not covered.
Collections from pillar boxes/collection points are shockingly bad.
Get a grip Royal Mail and really improve the service or allow proper competition in to shake you up.
And NO bonuses for the Directors, executive, chairperson etc this year. You have NOT earned it.



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Told you so, springs to mind, lets hope they haven't been looking on here for our future predictions, they won't know what hit 'em. They should listen to us more often, we keep telling them that its getting worse, and the word service doesn't enter in to the equation at all now.
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While delivering the other day someone said too someone else the the post is terible these days felt like saying something but inside had to agree and did not have the time and could not be arsed to defend a PISS POOR SERVICE!.
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It is a crap service and its been rotting since 2003, i cut off yesterday and i've cut off this morning and i will cut off where ever possible now.

Postcomm is a piss taker and just wants it privatised for their own top brass to buy up the shares.

Soon be Christmas lads and lasses.
CUT OFF!!!
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Post by martin »

So can we go back to the 5.o.clock start????????????????????????? :lfo :cfo

Show our customers we do care.because :lfo :cfo don't care.!!!!!!
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Post by johno47 »

We have all this c**p in team briefs about losing out to competitors, by E-mail, Text, Fax, and other competitors taking our business, and whats :cfo and :lfo bright idea, make the post later so that all of the above can get to the customer before us, you couldnt make it up could you... :arrrghhh
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Image Bring back the thermal jackets
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets


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k66yla wrote:Image Bring back the thermal jackets
And the Sunday collections :nana
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
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disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
k66yla wrote:Image Bring back the thermal jackets
And the Sunday collections :nana
And earlier starts.
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Post by janitor »

And a Second delivery, and emptying boxes on your way round.
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Post by johnnyp »

pinstripe wrote:
disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
k66yla wrote:Image Bring back the thermal jackets
And the Sunday collections :nana
And earlier starts.
And proper security badges :Very Happy ive still got mine :wink:
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Post by Phantom »

k66yla wrote:Image Bring back the thermal jackets
I've still got mine :Very Happy
CUT OFF!!!
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Post by Stormproof »

Phantom wrote:
k66yla wrote:Image Bring back the thermal jackets
I've still got mine :Very Happy
I've still got mine aswell, don't wear it to work its looking a bit faded
It still fits ;liar
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets


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