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Beforenineoclockgoodone
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Post by Beforenineoclockgoodone »

"Can you sign your name in that box please", ....................."What this one"?......"YES FOR F*** SAKE" :arrrghhh
Job & finish
kay_thebigbird
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Beforenineoclockgoodone wrote:"Can you sign your name in that box please", ....................."What this one"?......"YES FOR F*** SAKE" :arrrghhh
Sorry bit thick whats PDA talk.
bogstandard
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Postal Digtal Assistant
this link takes you to the unit in question.
http://www.intermec.com/products/cmptrcn3/index.aspx
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mrlovepantsuk
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Post by mrlovepantsuk »

every time i go in woolworths they want to stamp my delivery card and every time i have to go through the reasons as why they cant, hopefully the pda's will put an end to it and then maybe not.
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not me
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okay been on the 6 hour :confused training course
so on delivery they seem good fro those
in the morning punch in your user ID(those with barcoded ID badges can scan those) and pin number
scan your duty barcode
PHG will still allocate your items as now with the old style T&T guns
on delivery you scan the item whether it be RD,SD or tracked
if it requires a signature then the next screen requires you punch in the recipients name then they sign on the touch screen
data uploads near instantly(uses the vodafone network)
you can scan multiple items and then get 1 sig
you need to scan your SD/tracked items with a reason for non delivery
what you do with the PDA at the end of shift depends on your office set up
either back to base and in the cradle or brought in the next day
PHG still has to allocate items to the office retention barcode but not scan undelivered with a reason code
later the software will update to let PHG's use them for everything and use in callers office

the pda's have sat nav built in,the ability to recieve texts from base or text to base(PC)
you can phone your office by an 0800 number then input your office id code(same as on the PDA)
phone 999
phone RAC breakdown
phone IT support

you cant phone any other number nor call/text any other pda
texts come through without any sound notification

now tracking
the pda's dont track you as such
however the DOM could take the latitude and longtitude of your track points eg where you got a signature
and see what time you were at X point by putting those co-ordinates into an OS map
johnnyp
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Thanks custard mate :Applause Our guys are going to our Mail Centre next Monday to be trained up on them.
k979aaa
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johnnyp wrote:Thanks custard mate :Applause Our guys are going to our Mail Centre next Monday to be trained up on them.
Please let us all know how long the training should be and how long it actually is in practice!.
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k979aaa wrote:
johnnyp wrote:Thanks custard mate :Applause Our guys are going to our Mail Centre next Monday to be trained up on them.
Please let us all know how long the training should be and how long it actually is in practice!.
the training for being a 'PDA trainer' is officially 6.5 hours
ours took 5
if you mean training for drivers using PDA's then its 45-60 minutes depending on how the trainer does it
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custard wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
johnnyp wrote:Thanks custard mate :Applause Our guys are going to our Mail Centre next Monday to be trained up on them.
Please let us all know how long the training should be and how long it actually is in practice!.
the training for being a 'PDA trainer' is officially 6.5 hours
ours took 5
if you mean training for drivers using PDA's then its 45-60 minutes depending on how the trainer does it
Thank's "custard" But what is the differance for driver's and the "PDA trainer".
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Post by prowler »

k979aaa wrote:
johnnyp wrote:Thanks custard mate :Applause Our guys are going to our Mail Centre next Monday to be trained up on them.
Please let us all know how long the training should be and how long it actually is in practice!.
What exactly are we paying our union fees for? Lack of guidance from this union is nothing short of shocking!
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ive been led to believe the union has sent a letter to all reps giving the pda's the green light?

as for the difference in training
the 6 hour course is to train people to then in turn train others in how to use the PDA's
so the training course covers delivery use eg drivers and indoor use eg PHG's
supposedly its recommended drivers are trained in groups of no more than 4
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custard wrote:ive been led to believe the union has sent a letter to all reps giving the pda's the green light?

as for the difference in training
the 6 hour course is to train people to then in turn train others in how to use the PDA's
so the training course covers delivery use eg drivers and indoor use eg PHG's
supposedly its recommended drivers are trained in groups of no more than 4
Thank's custard your insight has proved invaluble to us all and this is what make's this site so good!. :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
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Post by bogstandard »

custard wrote:ive been led to believe the union has sent a letter to all reps giving the pda's the green light.
There are no in principle disagreements to the training of staff to use them but there is no TOR between CWU and RM so HQ's line is do not use them until there is

Letter to Branches





No. 704/08 Ref:540 Date: 15th September 2008


To: Branches with POSTAL Members

Dear Colleague

Postal Digital Assistants (PDAs)

Further to LTB 693/08, Branches will be aware that we have reached an impasse concerning the rollout/deployment of PDAs. However, at a meeting held with Royal Mail Management today it became apparent that the issues raised go much wider than purely this piece of equipment and do in fact embrace the deployment of all new technology.

We have not yet concluded “a generic framework to deal with the trialling and implementation of all new technology” as set out in the Pay and Modernisation agreement and the attached Joint Statement has been agreed to deal with that question.

While the terms set out in the Joint Statement are being actioned, Branches are asked to make our Reps and Members aware of this position and to take all steps possible to avoid any flashpoints with Management in respect of the use of PDAs. Further information will be issued in due course.

Please distribute this as quickly as possible using text messages/emails etc.

Any enquiries to Bob Gibson’s Office, quoting reference 540
Email address: hnutley@cwu.org

Yours sincerely

Bob Gibson
Assistant Secretary




PDA’s RATHBONE PLACE 15TH SEPTEMBER 2008


Royal Mail and CWU accept that there is a need to finalise the generic deployment framework referred to in section 2 (Delivering Change and Flexibility) in the Pay and Modernisation Agreement, in order to provide clarity. We have jointly committed to resolving this matter before the end of September 2008.

In the meantime we are both keen to avoid any flashpoints regarding the deployment of PDAs therefore CWU Branches should continue to cooperate with the rollout/deployment of the PDAs.

Further communication will be issued in due course.
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st5mainman
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Post by st5mainman »

my concern would be if it makes the phgs life alot easier , whats in store for them , we have 2 in our office, hope they dont thinklets get rid of one...
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st5mainman wrote:my concern would be if it makes the phgs life alot easier , whats in store for them , we have 2 in our office, hope they dont thinklets get rid of one...
They'll put them out on delivery, and then whenever everything goes tits up - there will be no one to cover the PHG duties :crazy:
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