STARBURST

taxi4leighton · Post by **taxi4leighton** » 24 Sep 2008, 16:04

DO ANY MEMBERS HAVE EXPERIENCE OF WORKING STARBURST DELIVERIES.IF SO,CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS WITH US.MOST POSTIES DISMISS IT OUTRIGHT,BUT PERHAPS IT HAS ITS ADVANTAGES.

Pmn · Post by **Pmn** » 24 Sep 2008, 18:21

No idea what Starbust is but conjures up an image of posties going out and delivering what used to be properly called OPAL FRUITS! (now Starburst)

not me · Post by **not me** » 24 Sep 2008, 18:43

its where a group of posties blitz one duty together
was an RM plan for deliveries before i started in RM but sometimes the term is used when a few cover a duty in OT

Post by **rockytony67** » 24 Sep 2008, 18:51

It was trialed a few years ago in Bow(E3), absolute chaos, RM ended up putting hundreds of hours into the office, the way it works is that a van pulls up and the posties get out do there bit return to the van and on to the next drop off point, the problem for RM is that everybody is only as fast as the slowest postie, I don't think it's a bad way to do the job, because it takes away the pressure of using private cars, waiting for bag drops and as we all know you are expected to work your payed hours, if that means waiting in the van for the last postie to return, well it's not your problem

Martin Walsh · Post by **Martin Walsh** » 25 Sep 2008, 16:03

As you said starburst came in during the TDS trials prior to the SDD agreement. Intially it was chaos at Bow but now starburst is well thought off within that office and camberwell where it was also used.

The operation allows four people to work from the van and deliver in short bursts therefore taking the weight off the shoulder. It is also safer as prior to starburst a number of opgs were being attacked and robbed. With starburst you are working in groups.

The other benifit is that no one starts early, work their breaks or drive their own cars.

You shouldt knock starburst unless you know the facts. Whether its starburst or shared vans or another option the time is coming when the 3.5 hour spec will change and the reality is a longer spec will have to mean an end to weight on the shoulder.

There already four trials going on in the country trialling more than 3.5 hours with some areas in scotland already introudcing longer spans

not me · Post by **not me** » 25 Sep 2008, 16:28

dingo wrote:
There already four trials going on in the country trialling more than 3.5 hours with some areas in scotland already introudcing longer spans

our office is to trial 4.5 hour delivery spans on 4 day weeks seemingly

pickaname · Post by **pickaname** » 27 Sep 2008, 16:58

custard wrote:
dingo wrote:
There already four trials going on in the country trialling more than 3.5 hours with some areas in scotland already introudcing longer spans
our office is to trial 4.5 hour delivery spans on 4 day weeks seemingly

Sounds good to me...would have to give you a longer break on a 10 hour day too. Only problem is, would saturday be a post 11:30 finish?

brothermagrew · Post by **brothermagrew** » 27 Sep 2008, 17:30

Yo dingo

As you apparently seem to be in the KNOW which areas in Scotland (note capital 'S'), are already introducing longer spans?

johnnyp · Post by **johnnyp** » 27 Sep 2008, 18:22

pickaname wrote:
custard wrote:
dingo wrote:
There already four trials going on in the country trialling more than 3.5 hours with some areas in scotland already introudcing longer spans
our office is to trial 4.5 hour delivery spans on 4 day weeks seemingly
Sounds good to me...would have to give you a longer break on a 10 hour day too. Only problem is, would saturday be a post 11:30 finish?

It is good mate,we do it at our office

and yes you get a 50 minute meal break,but Saturdays are long days as are your other 3 days.Our duty times are 05.30-15.30,rotating Rest Days with a long weekend every 3 weeks,and when i say long we finish Thursday and dont come back untill the following Wednesday.It is hard graft but the time away from the job is great.We have been doing it for well over 2 years now.I would not want to go back to a 5 day week again.

not me · Post by **not me** » 27 Sep 2008, 20:26

pickaname wrote:
custard wrote:
dingo wrote:
There already four trials going on in the country trialling more than 3.5 hours with some areas in scotland already introudcing longer spans
our office is to trial 4.5 hour delivery spans on 4 day weeks seemingly
Sounds good to me...would have to give you a longer break on a 10 hour day too. Only problem is, would saturday be a post 11:30 finish?

yet to be finalised/discussed
actually heard this from the DOM when we were discussing some other cock up