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LTB 248/26 – Update on Delivery Model 26 (DM26)

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Nickvilla20
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Re: LTB 248/26 – Update on Delivery Model 26 (DM26)

Post by Nickvilla20 »

dohnut wrote:
Yesterday, 20:51
No office in my region is clearing, the workload is ridiculous,.by the time you do the third of the other Two walks it's going on 12pm.so you then have 2.5 hours most days to finish 1 walk and all the tracked and 1 st class on the other it's just not realistic. And this is the quite time god help us in a month or so when it starts getting silly, frames will be bulging at the siems.
Had the exact same scenario today. Cut off the extra thirds yesterday so they both had to be done by the time we got on to the actual delivery it’s was past 12pm ended up taking back all the tracked on the second delivery.

Will probably go in tomorrow morning and be told by the manager we are letting the side down and our performance isn’t good enough and our rep will probably nod in agreement.
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Re: LTB 248/26 – Update on Delivery Model 26 (DM26)

Post by Iva bigredbag »

Honestly don't know why anyone is in the CWU for the last 10 years, they are a company union, they don't work for the members. They constantly gaslight their members, I would not trust a word that comes out of their mouth. They do nothing but lie to their members while boot licking Royal Mail at every opportunity. Not one person in the leadership could do a half days work as a postie -FACT. Do yourself a favour and leave this sorry excuse of a union, you are basically throwing your money into the pockets of con men who's only contribution to posties is throwing them under the bus time and time again.
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Re: LTB 248/26 – Update on Delivery Model 26 (DM26)

Post by tramssirhc »

Both the WSWS and Courier Checker are reporting very different versions to Martin's myopic vision.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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Re: LTB 248/26 – Update on Delivery Model 26 (DM26)

Post by Duesouth »

Martin Walsh wrote:
Yesterday, 20:19

Now fatigue is an issue which needs to reviewed but even the 2 in 5 results in 21 days less at work including 11 less Saturdays than the old 1 day in 6 off which 68% of Delivery employees were working under the old USO.
This is one sticking point which needs to be addressed asap and unfortunately a lot of members are struggling right now.

I am surprised that we can't have a break half way through our delivery. To continue walking, driving, and lifting heavy parcels for 5 plus hours every day is going to take it's toll. These extra days off are much needed, but no one really asked for these extra recovery days.

This probably was discussed during the trials, about fatigue.
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Re: LTB 248/26 – Update on Delivery Model 26 (DM26)

Post by TopperGas »

Iva bigredbag wrote:
Yesterday, 21:22
Honestly don't know why anyone is in the CWU for the last 10 years, they are a company union, they don't work for the members. They constantly gaslight their members, I would not trust a word that comes out of their mouth. They do nothing but lie to their members while boot licking Royal Mail at every opportunity. Not one person in the leadership could do a half days work as a postie -FACT. Do yourself a favour and leave this sorry excuse of a union, you are basically throwing your money into the pockets of con men who's only contribution to posties is throwing them under the bus time and time again.
Then what happens if RM attempt to discipline you n spurious grounds and you've no union to support you?

If we all left the union how long would it take RM to move to a self employed model like EVRi etc?

Whilst DM26 is bad RM's ODM would have been far worse, they'd probably also have us all working 9 to 5 if not.later.
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Re: LTB 248/26 – Update on Delivery Model 26 (DM26)

Post by funkflex55 »

The whole fatigue thing gets continuously mentioned but never actually addressed.

The so called extra days off come at a cost. The cost is longer days every day you're actually in work. And not only longer days but heavier days because every single day is double or triple mail. Plus a f**k tonne of D2Ds because they are now going over 2/3 days and there's been loads more than before this s**t started. I can tell you now that the job is now harder than before and you promised us less and a fairer workload. The walks are now even more unbalanced too.

I would much rather the original delivery spans and less days off. And stop quoting the extra Saturdays like they somehow give you extra rest over a weekday. The facts are, on rest days you're that f****d you don't want to leave the house.
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Re: LTB 248/26 – Update on Delivery Model 26 (DM26)

Post by qwerty2 »

TopperGas wrote:
Yesterday, 21:46
Iva bigredbag wrote:
Yesterday, 21:22
Honestly don't know why anyone is in the CWU for the last 10 years, they are a company union, they don't work for the members. They constantly gaslight their members, I would not trust a word that comes out of their mouth. They do nothing but lie to their members while boot licking Royal Mail at every opportunity. Not one person in the leadership could do a half days work as a postie -FACT. Do yourself a favour and leave this sorry excuse of a union, you are basically throwing your money into the pockets of con men who's only contribution to posties is throwing them under the bus time and time again.
Then what happens if RM attempt to discipline you n spurious grounds and you've no union to support you?

If we all left the union how long would it take RM to move to a self employed model like EVRi etc?

Whilst DM26 is bad RM's ODM would have been far worse, they'd probably also have us all working 9 to 5 if not.later.
“ have us all working 9 to 5 if not.later” - this has been RM plans for years
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Re: LTB 248/26 – Update on Delivery Model 26 (DM26)

Post by Chelseablue »

Has there ever been an unnofficial walk out by the members without unions involvement?
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Re: LTB 248/26 – Update on Delivery Model 26 (DM26)

Post by pinstripe »

qwerty2 wrote:
Yesterday, 21:54
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“ have us all working 9 to 5 if not.later” - this has been RM plans for years
We’re not far off that. 8-4 (4.30 on Wednesdays), 3.00 on Saturday.
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Re: LTB 248/26 – Update on Delivery Model 26 (DM26)

Post by Gary55 »

qwerty2 wrote:
Yesterday, 21:54
TopperGas wrote:
Yesterday, 21:46
Iva bigredbag wrote:
Yesterday, 21:22
Honestly don't know why anyone is in the CWU for the last 10 years, they are a company union, they don't work for the members. They constantly gaslight their members, I would not trust a word that comes out of their mouth. They do nothing but lie to their members while boot licking Royal Mail at every opportunity. Not one person in the leadership could do a half days work as a postie -FACT. Do yourself a favour and leave this sorry excuse of a union, you are basically throwing your money into the pockets of con men who's only contribution to posties is throwing them under the bus time and time again.
Then what happens if RM attempt to discipline you n spurious grounds and you've no union to support you?

If we all left the union how long would it take RM to move to a self employed model like EVRi etc?

Whilst DM26 is bad RM's ODM would have been far worse, they'd probably also have us all working 9 to 5 if not.later.
“ have us all working 9 to 5 if not.later” - this has been RM plans for years
WHAT A WAY TO MAKE A LIVING. 😬😬😬😬
Gary55
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Re: LTB 248/26 – Update on Delivery Model 26 (DM26)

Post by Gary55 »

qwerty2 wrote:
Yesterday, 21:54
TopperGas wrote:
Yesterday, 21:46
Iva bigredbag wrote:
Yesterday, 21:22
Honestly don't know why anyone is in the CWU for the last 10 years, they are a company union, they don't work for the members. They constantly gaslight their members, I would not trust a word that comes out of their mouth. They do nothing but lie to their members while boot licking Royal Mail at every opportunity. Not one person in the leadership could do a half days work as a postie -FACT. Do yourself a favour and leave this sorry excuse of a union, you are basically throwing your money into the pockets of con men who's only contribution to posties is throwing them under the bus time and time again.
Then what happens if RM attempt to discipline you n spurious grounds and you've no union to support you?

If we all left the union how long would it take RM to move to a self employed model like EVRi etc?

Whilst DM26 is bad RM's ODM would have been far worse, they'd probably also have us all working 9 to 5 if not.later.
“ have us all working 9 to 5 if not.later” - this has been RM plans for years
WHAT A WHAT TO MAKE A LIVING 😬😬😬
tramssirhc
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Re: LTB 248/26 – Update on Delivery Model 26 (DM26)

Post by tramssirhc »

Chelseablue wrote:
Yesterday, 22:16
Has there ever been an unnofficial walk out by the members without unions involvement?
Yes. We had the proud distinction of the most unofficial industrial action for years. Until the likes of Martin put a stop to it by concentrating our industrial power into fewer and fewer hands. That's why we are where we are today. There would never have been a DM90.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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Re: LTB 248/26 – Update on Delivery Model 26 (DM26)

Post by ted_e_bear »

Duesouth wrote:
Yesterday, 21:30
Martin Walsh wrote:
Yesterday, 20:19

Now fatigue is an issue which needs to reviewed but even the 2 in 5 results in 21 days less at work including 11 less Saturdays than the old 1 day in 6 off which 68% of Delivery employees were working under the old USO.
This is one sticking point which needs to be addressed asap and unfortunately a lot of members are struggling right now.

I am surprised that we can't have a break half way through our delivery. To continue walking, driving, and lifting heavy parcels for 5 plus hours every day is going to take it's toll. These extra days off are much needed, but no one really asked for these extra recovery days.

This probably was discussed during the trials, about fatigue.
You should be able to take your break part way through delivery, I've read on here some offices saying they have to take part or all of theirs before leaving the office but personally I'd rather stop midday for a rest and eat my sarnies.
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Re: LTB 248/26 – Update on Delivery Model 26 (DM26)

Post by Rve83ndxd »

Chelseablue wrote:
Yesterday, 22:16
Has there ever been an unnofficial walk out by the members without unions involvement?
Absolutely. We told the CWU regional to do one and refused to go back. Then they had to sort it.