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Cars on delivery

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ted_e_bear
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Re: Cars on delivery

Post by ted_e_bear »

TopperGas wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 20:15
guardianangel wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 19:38
redlen wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 19:17
Is it really worth six points and a large fine?

Commuting insurance only covers you to your primary place of business.

Who would pay for the hire and reward insurance needed, and Royal Mail would have to provide the third-party cover as well?
Just wondering if the health and safety,cwu and top bosses know about this or are they party to it at local level
It's hard to believe a manager would suggest doing this as they must know full well that most employees wouldn't have sufficient insurance cover on their own private car policy.
I'm guessing someone requested to finish earlier but not too far off planned finish time so they could get to the school run and the manager lazily and stupidly suggested this as an option.
Mr Rush
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Re: Cars on delivery

Post by Mr Rush »

jessicarabbit wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 19:34
Mr Rush wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 17:24
I swear, everything that passes in this job comes back again.
I'm waiting for bikes and pouch drops.
If you want to know how much I wish that would happen, I will admit to having had dreams about it. I know that's sad. Believe me, it is depressing.
The machine stops.
guardianangel
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Re: Cars on delivery

Post by guardianangel »

TopperGas wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 20:15
guardianangel wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 19:38
redlen wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 19:17
Is it really worth six points and a large fine?

Commuting insurance only covers you to your primary place of business.

Who would pay for the hire and reward insurance needed, and Royal Mail would have to provide the third-party cover as well?
Just wondering if the health and safety,cwu and top bosses know about this or are they party to it at local level
It's hard to believe a manager would suggest doing this as they must know full well that most employees wouldn't have sufficient insurance cover on their own private car policy.
In our office managers are but they use the old excuse what i dont see and all that, should they be held accountable for illegal activities that are going on.
qwerty2
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Re: Cars on delivery

Post by qwerty2 »

guardianangel wrote:
09 Sep 2026, 05:54
TopperGas wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 20:15
guardianangel wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 19:38
redlen wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 19:17
Is it really worth six points and a large fine?

Commuting insurance only covers you to your primary place of business.

Who would pay for the hire and reward insurance needed, and Royal Mail would have to provide the third-party cover as well?
Just wondering if the health and safety,cwu and top bosses know about this or are they party to it at local level
It's hard to believe a manager would suggest doing this as they must know full well that most employees wouldn't have sufficient insurance cover on their own private car policy.
In our office managers are but they use the old excuse what i dont see and all that, should they be held accountable for illegal activities that are going on.
You’ll get done if you use your car on delivery and have an accident - managers will deny everything
tramssirhc
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Re: Cars on delivery

Post by tramssirhc »

jessicarabbit wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 19:34
Mr Rush wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 17:24
I swear, everything that passes in this job comes back again.
I'm waiting for bikes and pouch drops.
Some offices never lost them.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
tramssirhc
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Re: Cars on delivery

Post by tramssirhc »

Mr Rush wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 23:38
jessicarabbit wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 19:34
Mr Rush wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 17:24
I swear, everything that passes in this job comes back again.
I'm waiting for bikes and pouch drops.
If you want to know how much I wish that would happen, I will admit to having had dreams about it. I know that's sad. Believe me, it is depressing.
Are Bridgwater still using them?
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
scoobydo79
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Re: Cars on delivery

Post by scoobydo79 »

So will you be scanning your work partner out when you leave the office as well as yourself? :no no
goneaway
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Re: Cars on delivery

Post by goneaway »

scoobydo79 wrote:
09 Sep 2026, 18:00
So will you be scanning your work partner out when you leave the office as well as yourself? :no no
They can sign themselves out on their PDA.
hans solo
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Re: Cars on delivery

Post by hans solo »

Correct you still get some finishing on street to allow more to be delivered rather than return to office
The whole job is corrupt
Barnacle
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Re: Cars on delivery

Post by Barnacle »

You aren’t allowed to use your own cars while working. It was withdrawn as a practice in 2010/11 and is written into an agreement that no private cars may be used.

It was briefly reintroduced during Covid when we all had to be kept separate but then that permission was withdrawn in 2021 or 2022.

The current status is that no private vehicles are to be used and under no circumstances must mail be in your vehicle.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
postmanplod2026
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Re: Cars on delivery

Post by postmanplod2026 »

so if u do that what about public liability insurance, if u crash and they say ur business insurance is not enough, like self employed drivers u need hire and reward insurance, public liability if u crash into someones property u could be hit for a hefty 100 grand bill for knocking down a wall, are u really sure u want to go down the route of using ur own car, wouldn't be me
NWpostie
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Re: Cars on delivery

Post by NWpostie »

I remember seeing an old "Police Camera Action" series, there was a clip of a postman being pulled up by the police taking his mail bag out of the boot and it transpired that he doesn't have business class insurance or courier insurance, the car was seized and he was forced to take all of his bags out of the car, there must be at least 4 bags, I would imagine he had to ring his boss to pick him and his bags up.

Don't do it guys, it's not worth it, all you're doing is making a rod for your back.
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Perseus
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Re: Cars on delivery

Post by Perseus »

guardianangel wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 06:22
DM26 has just started and bosses are saying we can take our cars out on delivery to finish early so i can follow my partner out in my car then other guy drives back while i can go home,just checking whether this is ok or do i need insurance or should i be wary of bosses ,is this allowed under royal mail procedure.
you happy enough for the other person having to drive back to office, park van, empty van, deal with 739 items, have the manager ask them to do more work even if they only have minutes left, etc etc?
guardianangel
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Re: Cars on delivery

Post by guardianangel »

Perseus wrote:
13 Sep 2026, 22:18
guardianangel wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 06:22
DM26 has just started and bosses are saying we can take our cars out on delivery to finish early so i can follow my partner out in my car then other guy drives back while i can go home,just checking whether this is ok or do i need insurance or should i be wary of bosses ,is this allowed under royal mail procedure.
you happy enough for the other person having to drive back to office, park van, empty van, deal with 739 items, have the manager ask them to do more work even if they only have minutes left, etc etc?
It was a satirical comment i'd be the one taking it all back,i was getting at why should i be punished because i dont have kids,this bowing down to parents gets on my nerves,fine if they want preferential treatment but why should i have to work harder ,they chose to have kids now look after them yourselves dont expect the rest of us too,this is the problem with a selfish society these days too many entitled people.
Perseus
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Re: Cars on delivery

Post by Perseus »

guardianangel wrote:
Yesterday, 07:25
Perseus wrote:
13 Sep 2026, 22:18
guardianangel wrote:
08 Sep 2026, 06:22
DM26 has just started and bosses are saying we can take our cars out on delivery to finish early so i can follow my partner out in my car then other guy drives back while i can go home,just checking whether this is ok or do i need insurance or should i be wary of bosses ,is this allowed under royal mail procedure.
you happy enough for the other person having to drive back to office, park van, empty van, deal with 739 items, have the manager ask them to do more work even if they only have minutes left, etc etc?
It was a satirical comment i'd be the one taking it all back,i was getting at why should i be punished because i dont have kids,this bowing down to parents gets on my nerves,fine if they want preferential treatment but why should i have to work harder ,they chose to have kids now look after them yourselves dont expect the rest of us too,this is the problem with a selfish society these days too many entitled people.
The whole point about family friendly/kids from school arrangements is that they are only supposed to be temporary until you sort something else out, otherwise it is unfair on the rest of the staff.
We have plenty staff who don’t come back for made up reasons and I imagine they are SISO either at home or on the street and giving PDA back to the driver who takes it all back. It’s a very, very shortsighted ‘benefit’ as between that and them also not wanting to stay in on a Saturday and sort D2D items they are making part of their job redundant. They are also usually the first staff to complain about others not doing the job properly, sneering at those who do overtime and have a meltdown if someone else starts 2 minutes before their allotted time.