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Hell offices now.

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
Perseus
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Re: Hell offices now.

Post by Perseus »

I agree with others when saying if ODM wouldn't work in an office, then DM26 has no chance.

Theres actually more walking involved in DM26 over a greater sized area than you had with ODM.
oypostie
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Re: Hell offices now.

Post by oypostie »

Martin Walsh needs this level of dedication.
Martin Walsh just relies on Royal Mail for his figures :thumbdown :thumbdown
Hyrrokkin
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Re: Hell offices now.

Post by Hyrrokkin »

A2B wrote:
13 Aug 2026, 19:13
Gary55 wrote:
13 Aug 2026, 19:08
Probably factored a lot of legacy leaving as part of their profit projections
I do wonder how many people retire from RM per month, guessing well over a 100
The turnover rate in D.O's now must be immense - would be interested to see those numbers.
Mr Rush
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Re: Hell offices now.

Post by Mr Rush »

Hyrrokkin wrote:
14 Aug 2026, 18:16
A2B wrote:
13 Aug 2026, 19:13
Gary55 wrote:
13 Aug 2026, 19:08
Probably factored a lot of legacy leaving as part of their profit projections
I do wonder how many people retire from RM per month, guessing well over a 100
The turnover rate in D.O's now must be immense - would be interested to see those numbers.
It's very difficult even anecdotally to monitor turnover. I can't keep tabs on everyone coming and going in the unit (not for lack of trying). An example from just a few days ago:
Colleague: Elliot left.
Me: Who's Elliot?
Colleague: A new start.
Me: I have no idea who that is.
I've looked at the ONS numbers I can find (2017/18 and 2022/23) and 'Information and Communication' turnover rates seem to be consistent at around 30%. That's close to RM's claim about the logitistics sector (26.9%). If we assume that's historically consistent then in 2010/11 "half the UK average" would be ~15%. RM boasts in 2024 to have reduced that to just 11% turnover. That seems to be completely counterintuitive to what everyone sees, except that we know average age in operations has been going up for a long time now.

I can only speculate unless someone else can speak more authoritatively on the subject. In spite of the substatntial churn on the low end of seniority, those in the upper bracket are likely clinging on for retirement or angling for a payoff that never comes so much that it more than offsets 25% of newbies leaving in 90 days.
The machine stops.
Woody84
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Re: Hell offices now.

Post by Woody84 »

A complete and utter s**t show.
WalkerX
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Re: Hell offices now.

Post by WalkerX »

Coming to the end of the first week of The Great Leap Forward.
Two newbies, one who doesn`t drive, the other who worked at another office, but only as a van delivery driver, is already looking at leaving because she can`t cope with the walking. :crazy:
A young woman who is highly regarded for her enthusiasm, speed and commitment, was brought to tears by the impossibility of what she was expected to deliver on the "third" of the "other" walk in the pod. The DOM went out to help her. When we arrived back there was a notice imploring those who were back early to go out again to help their colleagues. Easy Monday/Tuesday, car crash on parcels/packets ever since.
Tomorrow, after work, the DOM has invited everyone down The `Spoons for a drink. I don`t mind drinking on The Krestky dollar, but I`m secretly hoping that no-one else shows up, as it`s just a cynical ploy to boost morale. Especially as orders have come from on high to do it every month. Most people won`t attend on principal, but the main reason is the later finish time on Saturdays now, and I shall tell her so. It doesn`t effect me, but my younger colleagues with families won`t be able to take them out for the day.
A2B
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Re: Hell offices now.

Post by A2B »

WalkerX wrote:
14 Aug 2026, 19:45

Tomorrow, after work, the DOM has invited everyone down The `Spoons for a drink. I don`t mind drinking on The Krestky dollar, but I`m secretly hoping that no-one else shows up, as it`s just a cynical ploy to boost morale.
Our office moral is so bad I think alcohol would just add fuel to the fire and we haven't started DM26 yet!

Also I thought drinking whilst in uniform was frowned upon and not something RM would actively encourage
Mick100
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Re: Hell offices now.

Post by Mick100 »

Anyone aged under 52 get out now while you can still get something else, the job gets worse every few years I’m just hopefully seeing out another couple of years till pension if I can wait that long
Clappedoutpostie
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Re: Hell offices now.

Post by Clappedoutpostie »

Mick100 wrote:
14 Aug 2026, 20:51
Anyone aged under 52 get out now while you can still get something else, the job gets worse every few years I’m just hopefully seeing out another couple of years till pension if I can wait that long
What’s the relevance of 52?
norris9
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Re: Hell offices now.

Post by norris9 »

I'm interested to know what HTC walking rounds will involve. You can only take what you can fit inside an HTC and that can typically easily be done within our current shorter working hours, but when DM26 comes in the working day will be 30 to 60 minutes longer.
qwerty2
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Re: Hell offices now.

Post by qwerty2 »

WalkerX wrote:
14 Aug 2026, 19:45
Coming to the end of the first week of The Great Leap Forward.
Two newbies, one who doesn`t drive, the other who worked at another office, but only as a van delivery driver, is already looking at leaving because she can`t cope with the walking. :crazy:
A young woman who is highly regarded for her enthusiasm, speed and commitment, was brought to tears by the impossibility of what she was expected to deliver on the "third" of the "other" walk in the pod. The DOM went out to help her. When we arrived back there was a notice imploring those who were back early to go out again to help their colleagues. Easy Monday/Tuesday, car crash on parcels/packets ever since.
Tomorrow, after work, the DOM has invited everyone down The `Spoons for a drink. I don`t mind drinking on The Krestky dollar, but I`m secretly hoping that no-one else shows up, as it`s just a cynical ploy to boost morale. Especially as orders have come from on high to do it every month. Most people won`t attend on principal, but the main reason is the later finish time on Saturdays now, and I shall tell her so. It doesn`t effect me, but my younger colleagues with families won`t be able to take them out for the day.
Newbie that doesn’t drive? - thought everyone joining has to drive now since 2010?
Roadie8282
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Re: Hell offices now.

Post by Roadie8282 »

qwerty2 wrote:
Yesterday, 06:57
WalkerX wrote:
14 Aug 2026, 19:45
Coming to the end of the first week of The Great Leap Forward.
Two newbies, one who doesn`t drive, the other who worked at another office, but only as a van delivery driver, is already looking at leaving because she can`t cope with the walking. :crazy:
A young woman who is highly regarded for her enthusiasm, speed and commitment, was brought to tears by the impossibility of what she was expected to deliver on the "third" of the "other" walk in the pod. The DOM went out to help her. When we arrived back there was a notice imploring those who were back early to go out again to help their colleagues. Easy Monday/Tuesday, car crash on parcels/packets ever since.
Tomorrow, after work, the DOM has invited everyone down The `Spoons for a drink. I don`t mind drinking on The Krestky dollar, but I`m secretly hoping that no-one else shows up, as it`s just a cynical ploy to boost morale. Especially as orders have come from on high to do it every month. Most people won`t attend on principal, but the main reason is the later finish time on Saturdays now, and I shall tell her so. It doesn`t effect me, but my younger colleagues with families won`t be able to take them out for the day.
Newbie that doesn’t drive? - thought everyone joining has to drive now since 2010?
Maybe hasn't done the assessment?
But in my office they did take someone on without a licence
FirstPost
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Re: Hell offices now.

Post by FirstPost »

norris9 wrote:
Yesterday, 06:53
I'm interested to know what HTC walking rounds will involve. You can only take what you can fit inside an HTC and that can typically easily be done within our current shorter working hours, but when DM26 comes in the working day will be 30 to 60 minutes longer.
HTC have it so easy it’s complete opposite to van shares that get 200+ tracked when they only get 50 on a really heavy day
clashcityrocker
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Re: Hell offices now.

Post by clashcityrocker »

norris9 wrote:
Yesterday, 06:53
I'm interested to know what HTC walking rounds will involve. You can only take what you can fit inside an HTC and that can typically easily be done within our current shorter working hours, but when DM26 comes in the working day will be 30 to 60 minutes longer.
There is a replenishment duty to fill the trolley back up again.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
sorefeet17
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Re: Hell offices now.

Post by sorefeet17 »

FirstPost wrote:
Yesterday, 09:16
norris9 wrote:
Yesterday, 06:53
I'm interested to know what HTC walking rounds will involve. You can only take what you can fit inside an HTC and that can typically easily be done within our current shorter working hours, but when DM26 comes in the working day will be 30 to 60 minutes longer.
HTC have it so easy it’s complete opposite to van shares that get 200+ tracked when they only get 50 on a really heavy day
Not in my office, I was out delivering for six and a half hours yesterday with my HTC, maybe we don't do as many packets as vans but I was on my feet the whole time, and I was the last one back.