USO Change Implementation

[TopperGas]

its no going work i couldnt get any mail done today had 175 tracks so how on earth can u get 4 in 3 or 50/50 canna even get a loop out ur having a laugh, taking far to many parcel contracts on

Surely your office never reduced duty sizes back down after they massively increased them 3 to 4 years ago. 175 Tracked is insane. I've never had anymore than 86 Tracked on any duty I've ever done.

Can you expand on why you are getting 175 Tracked and if this is normal? How many calls do you have on your duty? What type of duty is it?

If your duties never got reduced in size then it's my understanding they will be reduced when the USO changes happen.

I don't recall my rural duty dropping below 90 Tracked items since last summer! If you've got a town duty with a lot of houses where it's easy to leave parcels then 175 tracked is not out of the ordinary in my DO. What's a concern is the numbers haven't reduced so god knows how many we'll have after Black Friday.

[TopperGas]

its no going work i couldnt get any mail done today had 175 tracks so how on earth can u get 4 in 3 or 50/50 canna even get a loop out ur having a laugh, taking far to many parcel contracts on

Surely your office never reduced duty sizes back down after they massively increased them 3 to 4 years ago. 175 Tracked is insane. I've never had anymore than 86 Tracked on any duty I've ever done.

Can you expand on why you are getting 175 Tracked and if this is normal? How many calls do you have on your duty? What type of duty is it?

If your duties never got reduced in size then it's my understanding they will be reduced when the USO changes happen.

You've never had more than 86 on any duty you've ever done even at Xmas ? 86 would be average in summer on most of the ones I've done and busier times are regular 120+(160+ xmas) here

Yep, 86 Tracked is highest I've ever had on any duty I've done. Not including standards, not including Specials, not including any lapsing.

In our office the average round is probably 500 calls and I'd say the average amount of Tracked parcels per day per round is 55.

At Xmas we get agency drivers to clear a good chunk of our parcels, otherwise that 86 figure would be higher.

86 is wild. That’s me on an average summer day. Highest I’ve had is 276 tracked and that’s an all-rural duty.

You must a few "big" customers on that duty as there's no way anybody can deliver 276 tracked to different addresses on a genuine rural duty, the most I've managed was 200 doing just Tracked across two duties before they introduced also delivering 1c and NHS letters.

[TopperGas]

Parcels will still take priority and mail will still fail. I don’t understand why people are bothered with how much mail they have. One day, two days, ten days..I really couldn’t care. It literally makes no difference to what time I finish at

Many people don't want mail building up at their frame when other people are clearing. It makes them feel like a loser. Of course, the reality is that your duty is very heavy and probably fails a lot more than others which is the real reason for the build up.

Who eventually clears the 10+ days of mail if it's not you? Because if it's not you, you can bet they'll be waiting for your week off, put parcel drivers on for the tracked and let those covering you to get all the mail out. When you get back from annual leave, they'll be delighted to pin the blame on you by making an example of you.

The duty I was on this week hadn't been cleared since Friday, it's no fun walking up to a house having to flip through 6 to 10 letters to check the address is correct then trying to force them through the letter box with upto 2 weeks D2D's, or posting them virtually individually for customers with old fashioned tiny letterboxes. Today was far easier now it was back to just today's mail requiring delivery.

I don't think anybody realises at RM or the CWU that double or triple mail isn't as easy to post as a single days mail, there's more to it than just an increased call rate.

[hazzeem025]

Our DOM admitted today even with 3 duties getting put back in and getting fully staffed, that our D.O would never be U.S.O compliant!!

[Pfrizzy10]

its no going work i couldnt get any mail done today had 175 tracks so how on earth can u get 4 in 3 or 50/50 canna even get a loop out ur having a laugh, taking far to many parcel contracts on

Surely your office never reduced duty sizes back down after they massively increased them 3 to 4 years ago. 175 Tracked is insane. I've never had anymore than 86 Tracked on any duty I've ever done.

Can you expand on why you are getting 175 Tracked and if this is normal? How many calls do you have on your duty? What type of duty is it?

If your duties never got reduced in size then it's my understanding they will be reduced when the USO changes happen.

You've never had more than 86 on any duty you've ever done even at Xmas ? 86 would be average in summer on most of the ones I've done and busier times are regular 120+(160+ xmas) here

Yep, 86 Tracked is highest I've ever had on any duty I've done. Not including standards, not including Specials, not including any lapsing.

In our office the average round is probably 500 calls and I'd say the average amount of Tracked parcels per day per round is 55.

At Xmas we get agency drivers to clear a good chunk of our parcels, otherwise that 86 figure would be higher.

86 is wild. That’s me on an average summer day. Highest I’ve had is 276 tracked and that’s an all-rural duty.

You must a few "big" customers on that duty as there's no way anybody can deliver 276 tracked to different addresses on a genuine rural duty, the most I've managed was 200 doing just Tracked across two duties before they introduced also delivering 1c and NHS letters.

No, it’s not possible. They had to then send two people to that duty most days over Christmas to shift mail. It was over 200 every day.

[SpacePhoenix]

It has been a while since I was last on packet sorting but back then just about every packet was Tracked. More and more manual letters and flats seem to be going over to Tracked.

[raXor]

I don't think anybody realises at RM or the CWU that double or triple mail isn't as easy to post as a single days mail, there's more to it than just an increased call rate.

Yes, precisely. In our DO, we have several heavy town shared van duties that get failed very often. There is always a good few days mail in the frame and the D2Ds aren't touched at all. Every week there seems to be at least 3 D2Ds which subsequently get brushed under the frame to accompany the last few weeks. Last time I looked at one of the shared van duties, they must have had 8 weeks worth of D2Ds stashed, so around 24 leaflets for each delivery point (a total of around 1500 delivery points for both sides combined). They are never going to be delivered at this point, yet the duties continue to fail. Even if the pair were just told to deliver D2Ds for the entire week and nothing else, they still couldn't. Who is going to have the time to prep them all? They wouldn't even fit in the frame let alone get them in their bags.

RM totally underestimate double and triple mail. It's hard work on heavy town based duties, easier on rurals. And they still have the nerve to roster the posties in as late as possible to avoid having to pay as much overtime prep for the part timers who are usually the ones who are assigned these awful duties in the first place.

[goldy2007]

u get pressure to clear the mail as well, a 2 yorks of oversize and overheads so yeah its pretty grim, one duty, would help if there was no oversize yorks

No pressure only what you put on yourself

Times like this the pda is your friend

[world class male]

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I've never had anymore than 86 Tracked on any duty I've ever done.


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can you say if 86 is on a dual duty or on a single? it could be extremley low or above par

[goldy2007]

its no going work i couldnt get any mail done today had 175 tracks so how on earth can u get 4 in 3 or 50/50 canna even get a loop out ur having a laugh, taking far to many parcel contracts on

Surely your office never reduced duty sizes back down after they massively increased them 3 to 4 years ago. 175 Tracked is insane. I've never had anymore than 86 Tracked on any duty I've ever done.

Can you expand on why you are getting 175 Tracked and if this is normal? How many calls do you have on your duty? What type of duty is it?

If your duties never got reduced in size then it's my understanding they will be reduced when the USO changes happen.

You've never had more than 86 on any duty you've ever done even at Xmas ? 86 would be average in summer on most of the ones I've done and busier times are regular 120+(160+ xmas) here

Yep, 86 Tracked is highest I've ever had on any duty I've done. Not including standards, not including Specials, not including any lapsing.

In our office the average round is probably 500 calls and I'd say the average amount of Tracked parcels per day per round is 55.

At Xmas we get agency drivers to clear a good chunk of our parcels, otherwise that 86 figure would be higher.

86 is wild. That’s me on an average summer day. Highest I’ve had is 276 tracked and that’s an all-rural duty.

You must a few "big" customers on that duty as there's no way anybody can deliver 276 tracked to different addresses on a genuine rural duty, the most I've managed was 200 doing just Tracked across two duties before they introduced also delivering 1c and NHS letters.

No, it’s not possible. They had to then send two people to that duty most days over Christmas to shift mail. It was over 200 every day.

Call rate is the killer of a deep rural round

If you ain’t finishing on time now

No chance under double mail26

[TopperGas]

its no going work i couldnt get any mail done today had 175 tracks so how on earth can u get 4 in 3 or 50/50 canna even get a loop out ur having a laugh, taking far to many parcel contracts on

Surely your office never reduced duty sizes back down after they massively increased them 3 to 4 years ago. 175 Tracked is insane. I've never had anymore than 86 Tracked on any duty I've ever done.

Can you expand on why you are getting 175 Tracked and if this is normal? How many calls do you have on your duty? What type of duty is it?

If your duties never got reduced in size then it's my understanding they will be reduced when the USO changes happen.

You've never had more than 86 on any duty you've ever done even at Xmas ? 86 would be average in summer on most of the ones I've done and busier times are regular 120+(160+ xmas) here

Yep, 86 Tracked is highest I've ever had on any duty I've done. Not including standards, not including Specials, not including any lapsing.

In our office the average round is probably 500 calls and I'd say the average amount of Tracked parcels per day per round is 55.

At Xmas we get agency drivers to clear a good chunk of our parcels, otherwise that 86 figure would be higher.

86 is wild. That’s me on an average summer day. Highest I’ve had is 276 tracked and that’s an all-rural duty.

You must a few "big" customers on that duty as there's no way anybody can deliver 276 tracked to different addresses on a genuine rural duty, the most I've managed was 200 doing just Tracked across two duties before they introduced also delivering 1c and NHS letters.

No, it’s not possible. They had to then send two people to that duty most days over Christmas to shift mail. It was over 200 every day.

Call rate is the killer of a deep rural round

If you ain’t finishing on time now

No chance under double mail26

That's what the business don't seem to understand, they think doing double mail on only 50% of the duty will take half as long when it reality it takes just as long, as you still have to stop at virtually 50% of your customers which you would do anyway when covering the whole duty.

[steve1873]

its no going work i couldnt get any mail done today had 175 tracks so how on earth can u get 4 in 3 or 50/50 canna even get a loop out ur having a laugh, taking far to many parcel contracts on

Surely your office never reduced duty sizes back down after they massively increased them 3 to 4 years ago. 175 Tracked is insane. I've never had anymore than 86 Tracked on any duty I've ever done.

Can you expand on why you are getting 175 Tracked and if this is normal? How many calls do you have on your duty? What type of duty is it?

If your duties never got reduced in size then it's my understanding they will be reduced when the USO changes happen.

Assume you are on a singleton duty? Going to also assume the poster you were replying to is on a van share, so in essence 2 duties, so the parcel volume is roughly equivalent. I have had well over 200 across our van shares (inclusive of our oversized) on numerous occasions, at xmas it probably isn't a million miles off 300.

[Perseus]

A lot of the offices with high tracked numbers are very much 'once over the ground' type of units, with little to no DPR or LAT routes.

It's literally everything for that whole area crammed into 1 van.

[norris9]

Yeah, those Tracked numbers wouldn't allow you to deliver any mail, let alone get all the Tracked done.

At ours, often they send out a postie to deliver 2 duties worth of parcels with no mail (a van-shares worth of parcels) and the van share might get between 80 and 130 parcels and they aren't expected to take any mail with them....

So I have no idea what's going on with these geezers rounds that are claiming 86 a day is the average summer's day for one duty.....either they are staying out on excess or mail is constantly being brought back.

[yellowbelly]

A lot of the offices with high tracked numbers are very much 'once over the ground' type of units, with little to no DPR or LAT routes.

It's literally everything for that whole area crammed into 1 van.

And the s**te that Amazon dump on us because their algorithms from previous deliveries have told them it's down a long farm track, difficult to identify or awkward to get their massive vans down a tight lane. More profitable for them to give that to us so they can deliver (doorstep) 20 parcels on a residential street in the time it would take them to do one farm delivery.