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USO Change Implementation

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Gary55
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Re: USO Change Implementation

Post by Gary55 »

I just wondered if all your offices are fully staffed. Ours is about 40 down plus long-term sickness. I can't imagine getting to the required fully staffed. people just don't stay once the reality sinks in. I suspect they will employ a load near the time of desired implementation just to put bums on seats to force it in .
scoobydo79
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Re: USO Change Implementation

Post by scoobydo79 »

The Goats Toe wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 17:55
So with all these changes coming in, is there any provision for those folk who are on family friendly and those that met all the required criteria last year to be exempt from the later start times?

Any time people at our place ask the yellow hi viz wearers about this, all they get is 'we don't know as its out of our hands'.

any advice?
We’ve been pretty much told hard luck because if your office is at the end of the line there’s no point in you coming in earlier.
Pfrizzy10
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Re: USO Change Implementation

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Perseus wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 18:47
Pfrizzy10 wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 18:31
postmanplod2026 wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 17:46
its no going work i couldnt get any mail done today had 175 tracks so how on earth can u get 4 in 3 or 50/50 canna even get a loop out ur having a laugh, taking far to many parcel contracts on
Parcels are what is keeping you in a job right now. The more, the better for job security. As for the mail, do what you can do within your time. If it sits in a frame for a year, who gives a bollocks
Many do.

DM26 collapses when 1 element of it fails, be it mail, staffing numbers or parcels. Wave goodbye to any better attendance patterns that were dangled to get the vote through.
Parcels will still take priority and mail will still fail. I don’t understand why people are bothered with how much mail they have. One day, two days, ten days..I really couldn’t care. It literally makes no difference to what time I finish at
norris9
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Re: USO Change Implementation

Post by norris9 »

postmanplod2026 wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 17:46
its no going work i couldnt get any mail done today had 175 tracks so how on earth can u get 4 in 3 or 50/50 canna even get a loop out ur having a laugh, taking far to many parcel contracts on
Surely your office never reduced duty sizes back down after they massively increased them 3 to 4 years ago. 175 Tracked is insane. I've never had anymore than 86 Tracked on any duty I've ever done.

Can you expand on why you are getting 175 Tracked and if this is normal? How many calls do you have on your duty? What type of duty is it?

If your duties never got reduced in size then it's my understanding they will be reduced when the USO changes happen.
raXor
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Re: USO Change Implementation

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Pfrizzy10 wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 21:15
Parcels will still take priority and mail will still fail. I don’t understand why people are bothered with how much mail they have. One day, two days, ten days..I really couldn’t care. It literally makes no difference to what time I finish at
Many people don't want mail building up at their frame when other people are clearing. It makes them feel like a loser. Of course, the reality is that your duty is very heavy and probably fails a lot more than others which is the real reason for the build up.

Who eventually clears the 10+ days of mail if it's not you? Because if it's not you, you can bet they'll be waiting for your week off, put parcel drivers on for the tracked and let those covering you to get all the mail out. When you get back from annual leave, they'll be delighted to pin the blame on you by making an example of you.
Perseus
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Re: USO Change Implementation

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Pfrizzy10 wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 21:15
Perseus wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 18:47
Pfrizzy10 wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 18:31
postmanplod2026 wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 17:46
its no going work i couldnt get any mail done today had 175 tracks so how on earth can u get 4 in 3 or 50/50 canna even get a loop out ur having a laugh, taking far to many parcel contracts on
Parcels are what is keeping you in a job right now. The more, the better for job security. As for the mail, do what you can do within your time. If it sits in a frame for a year, who gives a bollocks
Many do.

DM26 collapses when 1 element of it fails, be it mail, staffing numbers or parcels. Wave goodbye to any better attendance patterns that were dangled to get the vote through.
Parcels will still take priority and mail will still fail. I don’t understand why people are bothered with how much mail they have. One day, two days, ten days..I really couldn’t care. It literally makes no difference to what time I finish at
Mail fails and then DM26 fails, why can't you see that? I thought you posted the other day about being happy about better attendance patterns (I may be wrong) - they only happen if everything gets delivered.
Mr Rush
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Re: USO Change Implementation

Post by Mr Rush »

The Goats Toe wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 17:55
So with all these changes coming in, is there any provision for those folk who are on family friendly and those that met all the required criteria last year to be exempt from the later start times?
Don't count on it. I was reliably informed a literal handful of people in our operational area were granted time-limited exemptions when the Network Review f****d us in 2024.

Much like with the Poll Tax, Scotland had the great pleasure of a sneak peek at the fun that awaits when you don't hit the street till 1130. Hold onto your butts!
The machine stops.
Trumanity
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Re: USO Change Implementation

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Race to the bottom.....on your marks, Get Set !...
derekm
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Re: USO Change Implementation

Post by derekm »

Mr Rush wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 22:00
The Goats Toe wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 17:55
So with all these changes coming in, is there any provision for those folk who are on family friendly and those that met all the required criteria last year to be exempt from the later start times?
Don't count on it. I was reliably informed a literal handful of people in our operational area were granted time-limited exemptions when the Network Review f****d us in 2024.

Much like with the Poll Tax, Scotland had the great pleasure of a sneak peek at the fun that awaits when you don't hit the street till 1130. Hold onto your butts!
So are the rumours true about even later starts ?? Just to possibly get a extra Saturday off
postmanplod2026
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Re: USO Change Implementation

Post by postmanplod2026 »

u get pressure to clear the mail as well, a 2 yorks of oversize and overheads so yeah its pretty grim, one duty, would help if there was no oversize yorks
Pfrizzy10
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Re: USO Change Implementation

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postmanplod2026 wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 09:13
u get pressure to clear the mail as well, a 2 yorks of oversize and overheads so yeah its pretty grim, one duty, would help if there was no oversize yorks
They can’t force you to stay out and clear mail, so the pressure is put on by yourself. Do what you can do.
Racingpostie
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Re: USO Change Implementation

Post by Racingpostie »

norris9 wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 21:22
postmanplod2026 wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 17:46
its no going work i couldnt get any mail done today had 175 tracks so how on earth can u get 4 in 3 or 50/50 canna even get a loop out ur having a laugh, taking far to many parcel contracts on
Surely your office never reduced duty sizes back down after they massively increased them 3 to 4 years ago. 175 Tracked is insane. I've never had anymore than 86 Tracked on any duty I've ever done.

Can you expand on why you are getting 175 Tracked and if this is normal? How many calls do you have on your duty? What type of duty is it?

If your duties never got reduced in size then it's my understanding they will be reduced when the USO changes happen.
You've never had more than 86 on any duty you've ever done even at Xmas ? 86 would be average in summer on most of the ones I've done and busier times are regular 120+(160+ xmas) here :crazy:
norris9
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Re: USO Change Implementation

Post by norris9 »

Racingpostie wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 17:41
norris9 wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 21:22
postmanplod2026 wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 17:46
its no going work i couldnt get any mail done today had 175 tracks so how on earth can u get 4 in 3 or 50/50 canna even get a loop out ur having a laugh, taking far to many parcel contracts on
Surely your office never reduced duty sizes back down after they massively increased them 3 to 4 years ago. 175 Tracked is insane. I've never had anymore than 86 Tracked on any duty I've ever done.

Can you expand on why you are getting 175 Tracked and if this is normal? How many calls do you have on your duty? What type of duty is it?

If your duties never got reduced in size then it's my understanding they will be reduced when the USO changes happen.
You've never had more than 86 on any duty you've ever done even at Xmas ? 86 would be average in summer on most of the ones I've done and busier times are regular 120+(160+ xmas) here :crazy:
Yep, 86 Tracked is highest I've ever had on any duty I've done. Not including standards, not including Specials, not including any lapsing.

In our office the average round is probably 500 calls and I'd say the average amount of Tracked parcels per day per round is 55.

At Xmas we get agency drivers to clear a good chunk of our parcels, otherwise that 86 figure would be higher.
Pfrizzy10
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Re: USO Change Implementation

Post by Pfrizzy10 »

norris9 wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 18:07
Racingpostie wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 17:41
norris9 wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 21:22
postmanplod2026 wrote:
03 Jun 2026, 17:46
its no going work i couldnt get any mail done today had 175 tracks so how on earth can u get 4 in 3 or 50/50 canna even get a loop out ur having a laugh, taking far to many parcel contracts on
Surely your office never reduced duty sizes back down after they massively increased them 3 to 4 years ago. 175 Tracked is insane. I've never had anymore than 86 Tracked on any duty I've ever done.

Can you expand on why you are getting 175 Tracked and if this is normal? How many calls do you have on your duty? What type of duty is it?

If your duties never got reduced in size then it's my understanding they will be reduced when the USO changes happen.
You've never had more than 86 on any duty you've ever done even at Xmas ? 86 would be average in summer on most of the ones I've done and busier times are regular 120+(160+ xmas) here :crazy:
Yep, 86 Tracked is highest I've ever had on any duty I've done. Not including standards, not including Specials, not including any lapsing.

In our office the average round is probably 500 calls and I'd say the average amount of Tracked parcels per day per round is 55.

At Xmas we get agency drivers to clear a good chunk of our parcels, otherwise that 86 figure would be higher.
86 is wild. That’s me on an average summer day. Highest I’ve had is 276 tracked and that’s an all-rural duty.
Perseus
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Re: USO Change Implementation

Post by Perseus »

Pretty easy to see why there aren't going to be any revisions when bringing in DM26 - they might have to actually resource all offices properly.

If your office is (unsurprisingly) already unable to cope with mail plus hundreds of tracked per duty per day, your reward seems to be, here, have 1/3 more! Enjoy!