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Postman puts Reform leaflets in the bin.

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redlen wrote:
28 Apr 2026, 21:37
Cutting and pasting an article that is six years out of date shows a lack of objectivity prefering personal prejudice
Classic Left wing sloganism

The players are still present and unpunished, it's amazing how they slag off Reform as a racist party, when Reform is a multi ethnic party with some in leading positions in their shadow cabinet.
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redlen wrote:
28 Apr 2026, 21:37
Cutting and pasting an article that is six years out of date shows a lack of objectivity prefering personal prejudice
Is anyone ever going to post a link to an article that they disagree with?
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SogladIvotedBrexit wrote:
28 Apr 2026, 09:49
could they not just refuse to deliver instead.

we had several people refused to deliver for BNP and the same when The Sun newspaper would send out free papers due to the Hillsborough disaster


Idiot
i'm sorry but that actually happened at my previous DO a Good 10 years ago now.

You can handle the truth so be it
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It's well known you can opt out, but if you opt out of one you must opt out of them all. You can't pick and choose which you'd like to deliver on personal preference (distributing The Sun in and around Liverpool is a very different and specific case).

The Electoral Commission ensures any mailing is free of illegal or inflammatory material and none of the parties fielding candidates are ipso facto banned. Just get on with it.
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Post by clashcityrocker »

Mr Rush wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 17:54
It's well known you can opt out, but if you opt out of one you must opt out of them all.
That is something that management might tell you but it isn't true.
If you don't want to deliver BNP leaflets, you don't have to deliver BNP leaflets but it doesn't stop you delivering for the other candidates.
It is then up to managers to ensure the BNP leaflets get delivered and that may mean putting someone else on your duty for a day or two.

The conscience clause came about as there were serious concerns for posties in Northern Ireland delivering Sinn Fein leaflets in predominantly Loyalist areas (and vice versa.)
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We deliver democracy. Just post the damn things.
By refusing, someone will post it on FB, then the party will gain free publicity and possibly votes, from your refusal.
Deliver it and forget about it.
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Post by Sean06 »

Barnacle wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 22:03
We deliver democracy. Just post the damn things.
By refusing, someone will post it on FB, then the party will gain free publicity and possibly votes, from your refusal.
Deliver it and forget about it.
It is really not that simple as clash has posted above.
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Post by Tman »

It really is that simple.
Posties aren't censors, or arbiters of what's right or wrong.
No-one is going to get knee-capped for posting a Reform leaflet in a Labour-voting household.
What's next, paper boys saying who can get the Grauniad or Mail?
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Post by clashcityrocker »

Tman wrote:
30 Apr 2026, 13:42
It really is that simple.
Posties aren't censors, or arbiters of what's right or wrong.
Of course they are.
Was it right or wrong of the Sun to blame the Liverpool supporters for Hillsborough and accuse them of picking the pockets of victims, urinating on the police and beating up first aiders giving the kiss of life?

And nobody is censoring anything.
The leaflets still get delivered.
Some of simply choose to exercise our right not to be a leaflet boy for the far right.
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clashcityrocker wrote:
30 Apr 2026, 15:47
Tman wrote:
30 Apr 2026, 13:42
It really is that simple.
Posties aren't censors, or arbiters of what's right or wrong.
Of course they are.
Was it right or wrong of the Sun to blame the Liverpool supporters for Hillsborough and accuse them of picking the pockets of victims, urinating on the police and beating up first aiders giving the kiss of life?

And nobody is censoring anything.
The leaflets still get delivered.
Some of simply choose to exercise our right not to be a leaflet boy for the far right.
The Sun in Liverpool is the exception.

Political party leafleting is about democracy and we deliver to everyone in that regard.
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Mentioning the Sun and it's vile past is pure whataboutery and nothing to do with political leaflets.
I must have missed the agreement which gave my postie the power to veto/allow what post I receive though.
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Post by clashcityrocker »

Tman wrote:
30 Apr 2026, 18:16
Mentioning the Sun and it's vile past is pure whataboutery and nothing to do with political leaflets.
I must have missed the agreement which gave my postie the power to veto/allow what post I receive though.
I will say it again slowly for the hard of understanding.
Your postman is not vetoing what post you receive.
They are exercising their right not to deliver it. Someone else will.

Saying something is pure whataboutery is pure whataboutery.
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I will say it again slowly for the hard of understanding.
:roll: Say it as slowly and as pejoratively as you wish, it doesn't make the point any more valid.

They are exercising their right not to deliver it. Someone else will.
And if there is no "someone else"? The whole office chooses to stick together and refuse to deliver?
Posties attempting to justify censoring political information regarding a possible future gov't?
So much for the liberal Left.

Saying something is pure whataboutery is pure whataboutery.
Nope, mentioning the Sun in the context of this post is whataboutery. There is no valid connection or comparison.
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Tman wrote:
30 Apr 2026, 21:58

And if there is no "someone else"? The whole office chooses to stick together and refuse to deliver?
Whatifery on top of your whataboutery!
Boring.
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