Ballot timetable

[TopperGas]

I'v not been given enough information to vote on this...

So far there's been no explanation on what we gain from voting "yes" just to be given extra work each day against voting "no"?

If RM are just going to bring it in anyway by EA what's the point of the vote, if they are threatening to revert to ODM then good luck to them trying to get that to work if they force it on us.

[Valentina@1]

I'v not been given enough information to vote on this...

Yeah, I assume they'll speak about it in a Youtube Live at some point, but the sooner the better. It needs to all be explained this week surely.

Not seen Chris Webb on live?….where he gone?

[qwerty2]

I'v not been given enough information to vote on this...

Yeah, I assume they'll speak about it in a Youtube Live at some point, but the sooner the better. It needs to all be explained this week surely.

Not seen Chris Webb on live?….where he gone?

In jail

[apple]

I heard the frames are going to be made smaller, but not the duties. So the frames will be all doubleslotted

What's the logic in making the slots smaller (or two addresses in one slot) when half the duties will have to store (at least) 2 or 3 days worth of mail before it's bundled up to be delivered? The standard slots get rammed if you have 2 days of mail in there already, when they decide only the parcels are going out on a job and the non-priority mail gets rolled over. And the door to doors will sit there for longer, as they won't go out every day there is mail either.

Why does this job have to be made more difficult as time goes on, for no good reason?

The mail will be stored at the mail centre all you will get in the office is the due mail for delivery that day

[postslippete]

So far there's been no explanation on what we gain from voting "yes" just to be given extra work each day against voting "no"?

If RM are just going to bring it in anyway by EA what's the point of the vote, if they are threatening to revert to ODM then good luck to them trying to get that to work if they force it on us.

It's really just a test to see if CWU reps and RM management can dress up and polish a giant turd and present it to us as something that we really need.

Truthfully, what do we actually gain from 3 people stretching themselves to try and do 4 walks?? Hands up who wants to do work on another round instead of completing their own It's not tied to the 3% pay rise which was agreed under the previous multi-year deal and there's no clear pathway to equalisation if you're a new entrant.

And I'm struggling to think of the positives:

1. Safeguards against a worse imposed model. Only the CWU would dress that one up as a win! It's a bit like saying that the changes are going to be sh*t, but it could have been worse. It could have been the ODM which ironically would make things worse for the company as well?
2. More Saturdays off for some because it isn't guaranteed. Now if they said that staff would have every other Saturday off....well, thats a bit different. As usual it depends on your local office to how well this will be run
3. Route familiarity. Instead of 1 person = 1 walk, if you are part of the trio you will now do different walks on different days with the intention of not fully completing the walk that you are on everyday.

[Perseus]

2 weeks until the ballot opens and offices have no idea what this will look like in their own unit.

No idea on new start/finish times.
No idea on attendance patterns.
No idea on what duty group you'll be in.
No idea who the other 2 people in your group are.
No idea if there will be a re-pick of duties.

Sounds great

[funkflex55]

We've had the double slot nonsense for well over a year. Slows down door to doors, slows down putting mail in, slows down pulling mail out. Not enough tops for parcels when we all know that's whats increasing.

To add, looking a the the duty pattern of 2 in 5 posted on the other thread, looks like you no longer get long weekends off of that duty option is chosen. I seem to be remember that being one of the better options last time they taking about ODM.

[ted_e_bear]

To add, looking a the the duty pattern of 2 in 5 posted on the other thread, looks like you no longer get long weekends off of that duty option is chosen. I seem to be remember that being one of the better options last time they taking about ODM.

You do still get long weekends.

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[goneaway]

The simple reason that they make slots double is to save space. They've wanted to do it across the board for ages, this new way of working/change gives them an excuse. Do a lot of offices still have 1 duty, 1 frame with single slots?

My board still has single standard slots in the main, except for a few that were doubled up, to accommodate extra delivery points which were added during the last revision.

To follow the above argument to its logical conclusion about saving space, they could just give you six trays on a rack, one for each loop and you just chuck the letters in and hope for the best, that'll save a lot of space. Sod anything being practical for the postie who has to sort, bundle and deliver the mail.

[TopperGas]

We've had the double slot nonsense for well over a year. Slows down door to doors, slows down putting mail in, slows down pulling mail out. Not enough tops for parcels when we all know that's whats increasing.

To add, looking a the the duty pattern of 2 in 5 posted on the other thread, looks like you no longer get long weekends off of that duty option is chosen. I seem to be remember that being one of the better options last time they taking about ODM.

All double slots do is save some space but it's not like most DO's duties are increasing so that they need to have that much extra space anyway!

At least the one long frame for all the duties together seems to have quickly been forgotten?

[Pfrizzy10]

I'v not been given enough information to vote on this...

So far there's been no explanation on what we gain from voting "yes" just to be given extra work each day against voting "no"?

If RM are just going to bring it in anyway by EA what's the point of the vote, if they are threatening to revert to ODM then good luck to them trying to get that to work if they force it on us.

You’re still working 37 hours?

[Mr Rush]

To follow the above argument to its logical conclusion about saving space, they could just give you six trays on a rack, one for each loop and you just chuck the letters in and hope for the best, that'll save a lot of space. Sod anything being practical for the postie who has to sort, bundle and deliver the mail.

Re-inventing the Box Frames but worse? This is the minor adjustment that will make Bench Merging work. Stop giving them ideas!

[Chelseablue]

Double slots now, sharing a frame now and less room up top , but 30% more pkts . Takes longer getting out, less efficient , and working over the top of each other . As bad as the last horrendous revisions. We dont get listened to at all .Dreading if this gets in

[POSTMAN]

https://www.cwu.org/ltb/ltb-130-26-furt ... alisation/

LTB 130/26 FURTHER UPDATE ON CONSULTATIVE BALLOT PROCESS FOR RESOLUTION OF THE TWO DRPS ON USO & EQUALISATION
No. 130/26

1st May 2026

Dear Colleague,

FURTHER UPDATE ON CONSULTATIVE BALLOT PROCESS FOR RESOLUTION OF THE TWO DRPS ON USO & EQUALISATION

Further to the LTB 124/26 this LTB provides additional information for Branches and members.

Ballot papers will be dispatched by 1st class post to all members’ home addresses who are eligible to vote from 11th May 2026.

Voting will be conducted via the online electronic voting system, and members will receive personalised correspondence enabling them to cast their vote.

The online voting process uses a secure voting site administered by Civica (independent scrutineers) specifically for this ballot. This voting process was used for last year’s Rebuilding Royal Mail Part 1 & 2 agreements. The process is based on a simple, easy-to-use format that other unions and the Labour Party routinely use.

In advance of the ballot we will share example ballot papers and instructions for Branches and members on how to complete their vote.

Information on the Additional Vote for New Entrants

We have received enquiries about the two votes and whether one depends on the other. The resolutions to the two DRPs were mutually dependent; hence, they are in one agreement, as we both agreed that we would not agree to one without the other party agreeing to the other.

However, we wanted to provide new entrants with a vote on the additional pay rise of 1.75% whilst also allowing all members to vote on endorsing the policy of equalisation within the main agreement.

Any enquiries relating to the content of this LTB should be referred to the DGSP department hford@cwu.org.

Yours sincerely,

Martin Walsh
Deputy General Secretary (Postal)

[Mr Rush]

Ballot papers will be dispatched by 1st class post to all members’ home addresses who are eligible to vote from 11th May 2026.

Voting will be conducted via the online electronic voting system

Emphases mine. If the ballot is not conducted on paper it isn't a ballot paper.