summer staffing

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 16 Apr 2008, 16:44

heapsy wrote:In our office, as I understand it, we are collapsing any walk, as and when someone is off, during the summer period. Not entirely happy about it, so will have to wait and see what happens. Think it may go a bit pear shaped one way or another.

Sounds like Starburst in all but name to me.

heapsy · Post by **heapsy** » 16 Apr 2008, 16:44

asbru wrote:Collapsing walks in summer is part of phase 3 which as far as I know isn't agreed anywhere yet. The union have yet to see the results of phase 3 trials, so at the moment summer staffing agreements should be indoor work only. I pity anyone who has to do extra outdoor work for nothing.

Well, I wont be doing it for nothng, thats for sure. If I go over, then i'm claiming. And I know that everyone in the office feels the same on this.

slave · Post by **slave** » 16 Apr 2008, 17:40

If I go over, then i'm claiming. And I know that everyone in the office feels the same on this.

If you happen to go over then you claim, but, you should have some idea before you leave so that you can tell them to shove it - if everyone just accepts it and the odd ones book over then management will call it a success - if a few of you tell them you can't complete in the allotted time then it becomes more work for them and shows that it is not the grand idea they think it is!!

Do your job properly and don't run around - they can't force you to work over your hours, so don't and thus show them fools how unworkable this plan is.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 16 Apr 2008, 17:42

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
heapsy wrote:In our office, as I understand it, we are collapsing any walk, as and when someone is off, during the summer period. Not entirely happy about it, so will have to wait and see what happens. Think it may go a bit pear shaped one way or another.
Sounds like Starburst in all but name to me.

I will revive another management buzzword TEAMWORKING for that is their holy grail!. :lfo & :cfo

mailman71 · Post by **mailman71** » 16 Apr 2008, 18:19

if all posties work to their time,and dont leave the office till they are meant to then there wont be any time to do extra work.
if the runners want to come in early ,work their break then hell mend them.

peedofpostie · Post by **peedofpostie** » 16 Apr 2008, 18:19

it has to be done before you go out with your own delivery as you cannot walk for anymore than 3.5 hrs so we have to take say 10 mins at 8.30 am then 5mins travel time to the area do your 10 mins then 5 mins travel back to office to tie up and have our breaks before going out on delivery

woofwoof · Post by **woofwoof** » 23 Apr 2008, 16:47

woofwoof wrote:weeks 11 - 21 they want us collapsing walks or banking hours every day a full timer 1 hour and part timer 30 mins and the third option zero pressure for the year and all staff to help split bag carriers walks

we have all got together to agree not to pick any and let them go with the de-fault of lapsing duties between weeks 11 to 21 as when we ask them about phase 3 all we get is that wont ever come in ,so it left us with

1. so we go with no pressure and then they bring phase 3 in wich is lapsing duties anyway
2 bank hours they bring phase 3 in and lapse duties
3. say sod it go with de-fault if u want then we dont get 2 for the price of 1 like at tesco

3 was the winner let them choose the de-fault

Post by **dvbuk55** » 23 Apr 2008, 17:14

I thought summer lapsing was part of phase 2 and collapsing duties for leave and sickness was part of phase 3. If anyone knows for sure it would be very interesting as we are about to collapse 5 duties, with union involvement, and I have been questioning the duties chosen.

eddieb · Post by **eddieb** » 23 Apr 2008, 17:47

why the f*** do we pay union subs when they are just leaving everything to us to sort out

greynut · Post by **greynut** » 23 Apr 2008, 18:10

heapsy wrote:
asbru wrote:Collapsing walks in summer is part of phase 3 which as far as I know isn't agreed anywhere yet. The union have yet to see the results of phase 3 trials, so at the moment summer staffing agreements should be indoor work only. I pity anyone who has to do extra outdoor work for nothing.
Well, I wont be doing it for nothng, thats for sure. If I go over, then i'm claiming. And I know that everyone in the office feels the same on this.

Crozier said, he had no argument with people that went over their time claiming docket. For crissakes wheres the union rep. in all this. If I can remember Crozier saying that, then they should have it on bloody tape.

This last agreement, as I have said on numerous occasions, has put the idea in RM managements head that they can change work practices over and over again. We caved in and look at all the posts relating to incidents like this one. DOM's in one area implementing stuff other areas had never heard of. Its a bloody con.

eddieb · Post by **eddieb** » 23 Apr 2008, 18:26

DIVIDE AND CONQUER

shaunman · Post by **shaunman** » 24 Apr 2008, 19:04

In our office they want to do longs and shorts, 7.15 mon + tue, 8.30 wed, thur and fri, but also just had a walk duty removed leaving only 11 walks, now they wanna take another out during summer, so when i take my break i will have 6.35 hours to do ips, prep, my walk, and 2 parts from the removed walks, as well as weighing my bags, getting to my start point, getting back to the office, i dont think so do you?

heapsy · Post by **heapsy** » 24 Apr 2008, 20:10

shaunman wrote:In our office they want to do longs and shorts, 7.15 mon + tue, 8.30 wed, thur and fri, but also just had a walk duty removed leaving only 11 walks, now they wanna take another out during summer, so when i take my break i will have 6.35 hours to do ips, prep, my walk, and 2 parts from the removed walks, as well as weighing my bags, getting to my start point, getting back to the office, i dont think so do you?

Not a chance mate

Post by **rhino49** » 24 Apr 2008, 21:40

shaunman wrote:In our office they want to do longs and shorts, 7.15 mon + tue, 8.30 wed, thur and fri, but also just had a walk duty removed leaving only 11 walks, now they wanna take another out during summer, so when i take my break i will have 6.35 hours to do ips, prep, my walk, and 2 parts from the removed walks, as well as weighing my bags, getting to my start point, getting back to the office, i dont think so do you?

They can take out whatever they like - but they cannot insist that you work over your contracted hours - you are the best judge of whether you will complete within the allocated duty time for that day so give them the choice of pay me or find someone to cover - better still, make the choice for them.

I am just waiting for the time when the management decide to bank hours weekly so that you have to finish the allocated work each day - by around 11a.m. on a Thursday we will all have done our 40 hours and we can tell them what we will be doing on our long weekend while they are out delivering our walks.

shooterman · Post by **shooterman** » 27 Aug 2008, 19:20

we have collased one walk in are office ,been told it is permanent not summer saving, has been agreed by the C.W.U!

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