Alternative to the ODM

[SkiSunday]

Working in groups of 3 or 4 or even 6 etc etc seems hideously over complicated and doomed to fail.
1 person, 1 route, 1 frame per person - side A and B, just like that Australian model. Rotate each day.
It's been working like that for years in DO's all over the country, with agency/temp staff in over Christmas.

I can see how it might make sense and agree it has been happening for the last 5 years but fucksake is that not the epitome of f***ing over everybody, employees and customers alike, for the sake of year on year profit for the owners?
Late stage Capitalism is in full effect at RM and you have to wonder when something like this will tip over into a modern French revolution situation.

A revolution due to adding a day or 2 onto the delivery of 2nd class mail?

Is that seriously the main point you are taking from my post? Lol yeah it's the 2nd class post delay

[Mr Rush]

Late stage Capitalism is in full effect at RM and you have to wonder when something like this will tip over into a modern French revolution situation.

A revolution due to adding a day or 2 onto the delivery of 2nd class mail?

Care to remind us what caused the Tunisian government to fall in 2011? It's not so much the final straw that breaks the camel's back but the cumulative effect of the ones laden before.

[jessicarabbit]

Apparently RM putting out an emergency brief tomorrow assuring us that the USO plans are going ahead as planned and that the pilot sites are all working well. Also the CWU should not be discussing content of closed confidential negotiations.

Think this could get very messy...

[A2B]

Apparently RM putting out an emergency brief tomorrow assuring us that the USO plans are going ahead as planned and that the pilot sites are all working well. Also the CWU should not be discussing content of closed confidential negotiations.

Think this could get very messy...

I hear RM were very unhappy with the CWU statement a couple of weeks back

Also talk of OFCOM asking RM why they haven't implemented the changes they insisted they desperately needed

[hewittinspain]

Apparently RM putting out an emergency brief tomorrow assuring us that the USO plans are going ahead as planned and that the pilot sites are all working well. Also the CWU should not be discussing content of closed confidential negotiations.

Think this could get very messy...

Wow is this true? So Plan A is looking like it's going ahead then regardless?

[A2B]

Apparently RM putting out an emergency brief tomorrow assuring us that the USO plans are going ahead as planned and that the pilot sites are all working well. Also the CWU should not be discussing content of closed confidential negotiations.

Think this could get very messy...

Wow is this true? So Plan A is looking like it's going ahead then regardless?

My guess is the USO changes are coming but maybe not the ODM yet!

[toonshola]

Apparently RM putting out an emergency brief tomorrow assuring us that the USO plans are going ahead as planned and that the pilot sites are all working well. Also the CWU should not be discussing content of closed confidential negotiations.

Think this could get very messy...

I have no idea if what your saying is true but I just KNEW Martin Walsh jumped the gun a couple of weeks ago on that video when he proclaimed that the ODM was dead and that a dream like alternative where everyone stays on their own duty with no fatigue and every other Saturday off could be in the offing. The silence following that statement is also ringing alarm bells.

[Acca Dacca]

Apparently RM putting out an emergency brief tomorrow assuring us that the USO plans are going ahead as planned and that the pilot sites are all working well. Also the CWU should not be discussing content of closed confidential negotiations.

Think this could get very messy...

Whats the source of this?

[Acca Dacca]

Apparently RM putting out an emergency brief tomorrow assuring us that the USO plans are going ahead as planned and that the pilot sites are all working well. Also the CWU should not be discussing content of closed confidential negotiations.

Think this could get very messy...

I have no idea if what your saying is true but I just KNEW Martin Walsh jumped the gun a couple of weeks ago on that video when he proclaimed that the ODM was dead and that a dream like alternative where everyone stays on their own duty with no fatigue and every other Saturday off could be in the offing. The silence following that statement is also ringing alarm bells.

I sure hope that wasnt just a ploy to convince people sitting on the fence to vote YES to the pay deal

[hewittinspain]

Apparently RM putting out an emergency brief tomorrow assuring us that the USO plans are going ahead as planned and that the pilot sites are all working well. Also the CWU should not be discussing content of closed confidential negotiations.

Think this could get very messy...

I have no idea if what your saying is true but I just KNEW Martin Walsh jumped the gun a couple of weeks ago on that video when he proclaimed that the ODM was dead and that a dream like alternative where everyone stays on their own duty with no fatigue and every other Saturday off could be in the offing. The silence following that statement is also ringing alarm bells.

Surely the CWU wouldn't have made such a statement without the consent of RM. Managers have taken down the propaganda stuff, our own DOM has told us it's not happening. If what Jessica is saying is true then we would have known besides it all has to go to a vote anyway.
There is definitely change we all know that but the model that was trialled then I don't believe that will happen

[Pidleypoo]

Apparently RM putting out an emergency brief tomorrow assuring us that the USO plans are going ahead as planned and that the pilot sites are all working well. Also the CWU should not be discussing content of closed confidential negotiations.

Think this could get very messy...

But they can’t put a statement out say the trials are going well because they aren’t.

The could say the uso changes are still happening because they are but the rest is nonsense.

Who’s told you this?

[Pidleypoo]

Apparently RM putting out an emergency brief tomorrow assuring us that the USO plans are going ahead as planned and that the pilot sites are all working well. Also the CWU should not be discussing content of closed confidential negotiations.

Think this could get very messy...

But they can’t put a statement out say the trials are going well because they aren’t.

The could say the uso changes are still happening because they are but the rest is nonsense.

Who’s told you this?

To add to this , my office has also binned off the odm so someone has told them to do that

[claretandblue]

Apparently RM putting out an emergency brief tomorrow assuring us that the USO plans are going ahead as planned and that the pilot sites are all working well. Also the CWU should not be discussing content of closed confidential negotiations.

Think this could get very messy...

But they can’t put a statement out say the trials are going well because they aren’t.

The could say the uso changes are still happening because they are but the rest is nonsense.

Who’s told you this?

To add to this , my office has also binned off the odm so someone has told them to do that

Same here, all the duty patterns were taken down weeks ago.

[HarrySutton111]

Yep heard similar to Jessica, all going ahead here

[hewittinspain]

Yep heard similar to Jessica, all going ahead here

I wouldn't have thought the first model are getting pushed through asap. Our office says different