The Postal Executive has agreed the following timetable for the forthcoming ballot on Royal Mail Pay:

[SkiSunday]

This is an easy no vote, this isn't a true pay increase when you allow for inflation, in fact over the next few years any further pay increase may only come when the government increases minimum wage because that's where we're heading.

We all know how tough this job is on our bodies and how much crap we hear from management and having to negotiate daily on how much we're going to be leaving behind. And they want to offer us minimum wage or barely above ?
This is insulting, the race to the bottom has truly now been achieved since regulation opened up the postal services, the service has been cut to shreds and now the pay and conditions for its workers are following.

But at least it's cheaper for the customer, so long as they're happy to wait longer as package mountains acrue on frames and go out after a few days.

This is how it works in the first world now unfortunately. Late stage Capitalism is in full force, large scale public services have been fully bought up by faceless corporations, or in our case a single faced, foreign billionaire.

Nothing matters other than year on year profit now and the workers will be gaslighted into believing their jobs are safe, until one day they ain't.

But who cares about that today, tomorrow, next week or the next peak...? Almost nobody lol

[Hyrrokkin]

CWU - Many millions in donations to get another pay cut but hey not tied to t&c (well any we have left after they give everything else away) so we should all doff our caps bend the knee and be grateful.

Anyway will be voted in so we are all screwed one way or the other

[qwerty2]

What happened to the strike fund?

Offshore bank accounts

[blacov]

If this job had any prospects for the future I would certainly vote no. This deal isn't even half decent if we look beyond year 1 and the carrot in form of the backpay. This is still a race to the minimum wage and as some previous poster correctly stated we will be on parity with the NMW in 2028, assuming the pace of NMW increments will be kept.

Personally I want out so I am gonna go for whatever they are throwing at us as it is still better than nothing and focus on the exit strategy. This job has lost its appeal a long time ago and the way it is run from top to bottom doesn't create healthy and safe working environment. It takes its toll on the mental health and often contribute to physical fatigue.

[Barnacle]

And it's purely an electronic vote. Here goes the CWU executive doing whatever it wants without asking the members. Get that union in the bin.

What?
How?

Ask the CWU.

It’s not. Ballot papers will be sent out. OR you can vote online.

[Rommagic]

Vote online?.

[ted_e_bear]

Vote online?.

I'm assuming when you receive the ballot paper there'll be a choice of voting online or posting it back old skool.

Obviously online saves the CWU a bit of money due to lower postage costs

[Barnacle]

Vote online?.

I'm assuming when you receive the ballot paper there'll be a choice of voting online or posting it back old skool.

Obviously online saves the CWU a bit of money due to lower postage costs

Yes it is a choice. The online option sounds more of a faff. Prior to the ballot papers being sent out there will be some sort of instructions issued.

For some reason I can’t download the LTB which mentions this, but it was released in the last couple of weeks.

[tramssirhc]

And it's purely an electronic vote. Here goes the CWU executive doing whatever it wants without asking the members. Get that union in the bin.

What?
How?

Ask the CWU.

It’s not. Ballot papers will be sent out. OR you can vote online.

The LTB clearly says to be returned electronically. It does not say you can return by post.

[Barnacle]

And it's purely an electronic vote. Here goes the CWU executive doing whatever it wants without asking the members. Get that union in the bin.

What?
How?

Ask the CWU.

It’s not. Ballot papers will be sent out. OR you can vote online.

The LTB clearly says to be returned electronically. It does not say you can return by post.

No. The LTB states that ballot papers will be sent out by 2c post. Which you would return by post.

Then separately it states that Online voting can be done and you would be sent details of how to do this closer to the time.

[tramssirhc]

No. 151/25

23rd July 2025

Dear Colleagues,

CONSULTATIVE BALLOT – REBUILDING ROYAL MAIL PART 1 (EP GROUP/CWU AGREEMENT 2024) AND 2 (3 YEAR PAY SETTLEMENT 2025-2027)

The timetable for the consultative ballot is detailed below. Ballot Papers will be dispatched 2nd Class to all members’ home addresses for them to be returned electronically.

Ballot Papers Dispatched Wednesday 6th August 2025
Ballot Closes at 14:00 Tuesday 26th August 2025
Result announced Tuesday 26th August 2025
Online Voting

To return their vote using the online electronic voting system, members will receive personalised correspondence which will enable them to cast their vote.

The online voting process uses a secure voting site administered by Civica (Independent scrutineers) specifically for this ballot.

The process for voting is based on a simple, easy to use format that is routinely used by other Unions and the Labour Party

However, in advance of the ballot we will share an example ballot paper and instructions for Branches and members on how to complete their vote.

Any enquiries in relation to the content of this LTB should be addressed to the SDGS Department (lparrett@cwu.org)

Yours sincerely,

Martin Walsh

Deputy General Secretary (Postal)

[tramssirhc]

Its an electronic vote only.

[tramssirhc]

Even worse it's only a 'consultative ballot'. If the CWU don't like the result they can simply ignore it.

[Barnacle]

Its an electronic vote only.

Sorry. I stand corrected.

I wonder if turnout will be lower as a consequence.

[tramssirhc]

Its an electronic vote only.

Sorry. I stand corrected.

I wonder if turnout will be lower as a consequence.

The CWU will say it's to increase participation. Workers know it's to suppress the no vote.

And dont forget it's only a consultation. The CWU can ignored the outcome.

That LTB is very poorly worded. Don't be surprised if the CWU fold and change it to a postal vote as well. Its a piss poor organisation.