Uso agreement

[Mickeybrowneyes]

ODM can be rolled out in many different formats MR many accounts.

Ah yes, another one of the 'throw enough shite at a wall, some of it will stick' gang.

The CWU and Royal Mail have shafted thee little man. If you are still making excuses for that then you are part of the problem.

In what way would that be then..?
If the trials prove not be to a success in the current method change there will no doubt be a change of direction.
It's a hard negotiating standpoint when the union need help the company achieve the savings required to increase O/T rates and equalise contracts with the least amount of job cuts while delivering a fair and achievable workload that doesn't lead to fatigue and reaches QOS targets.
Surely you can see that.
It's not easy.

Probably something to do with being front and centre in the decimation of OPG terms and conditions over the last decade on their watch.

Decimation.
Still one of, if not, the best paid low skilled jobs out there with job security and union representation on every shop floor.
Not including the new t's and C's in that.
If the equalisation of terms is achieved the CWU will be the first union in history to reverse a two tiered workforce.
Besides the sick policy changes that will hopefully be addressed within time I really don't see the decimation that you do.
EP have committed to addressing both these issues within time.
The reality is the company need to achieve healthy profits again for all this to filter down.
Our jobs have got harder with the increase in parcels but the uberisation of the delivery industry have created an environment that it's hard to complete with these other firms that don't offer any of the benefits to employees that we get.
The return off delivering parcels is not as financially beneficial as it should be for royal mail.
It's not a equal playing field as it stands.

[tramssirhc]

Decimation.
Still one of, if not, the best paid low skilled jobs out there with job security and union representation on every shop floor.
Not including the new t's and C's in that.
If the equalisation of terms is achieved the CWU will be the first union in history to reverse a two tiered workforce.
Besides the sick policy changes that will hopefully be addressed within time I really don't see the decimation that you do.
EP have committed to addressing both these issues within time.
The reality is the company need to achieve healthy profits again for all this to filter down.
Our jobs have got harder with the increase in parcels but the uberisation of the delivery industry have created an environment that it's hard to complete with these other firms that don't offer any of the benefits to employees that we get.
The return off delivering parcels is not as financially beneficial as it should be for royal mail.
It's not a equal playing field as it stands.

And this here is exactly why the CWU is not trusted by workers. 'low skilled', 'healthy profits', 'compete with other firms'. This is exactly how the CWU think and speak. Attacking workers as 'low skilled', whatever that means. Demanding more profit for an industry that pays it's bosses millions. Pretending that the industry has competition when it's an oligopoly. Absolutely zero understanding of our history or the reality of capitalism. Put the CWU in the bin of history where it belongs.

[hans solo]

Decimation.
Still one of, if not, the best paid low skilled jobs out there with job security and union representation on every shop floor.
Not including the new t's and C's in that.
If the equalisation of terms is achieved the CWU will be the first union in history to reverse a two tiered workforce.
Besides the sick policy changes that will hopefully be addressed within time I really don't see the decimation that you do.
EP have committed to addressing both these issues within time.
The reality is the company need to achieve healthy profits again for all this to filter down.
Our jobs have got harder with the increase in parcels but the uberisation of the delivery industry have created an environment that it's hard to complete with these other firms that don't offer any of the benefits to employees that we get.
The return off delivering parcels is not as financially beneficial as it should be for royal mail.
It's not a equal playing field as it stands.

And this here is exactly why the CWU is not trusted by workers. 'low skilled', 'healthy profits', 'compete with other firms'. This is exactly how the CWU think and speak. Attacking workers as 'low skilled', whatever that means. Demanding more profit for an industry that pays it's bosses millions. Pretending that the industry has competition when it's an oligopoly. Absolutely zero understanding of our history or the reality of capitalism. Put the CWU in the bin of history where it belongs.

Correct i would not class myself as low skilled
And btw we are not the best paid
Mcdonalds for example are now paying as much if not more than us
We used to laugh at people working in burger franchises not any more
Equalisation of pay and terms will be kicked into touch
RM have no intention of this happening despite their assurances
There will not be ot increases either
Ot will be done away with
Ask CWU this why did you reject 4.5% pay increase
Their answer was strings attatched
Still waiting to hear what the strings were
Profits will always be down due to creative accounting

[chickenwittle]

Decimation.
Still one of, if not, the best paid low skilled jobs out there with job security and union representation on every shop floor.
Not including the new t's and C's in that.
If the equalisation of terms is achieved the CWU will be the first union in history to reverse a two tiered workforce.
Besides the sick policy changes that will hopefully be addressed within time I really don't see the decimation that you do.
EP have committed to addressing both these issues within time.
The reality is the company need to achieve healthy profits again for all this to filter down.
Our jobs have got harder with the increase in parcels but the uberisation of the delivery industry have created an environment that it's hard to complete with these other firms that don't offer any of the benefits to employees that we get.
The return off delivering parcels is not as financially beneficial as it should be for royal mail.
It's not a equal playing field as it stands.

And this here is exactly why the CWU is not trusted by workers. 'low skilled', 'healthy profits', 'compete with other firms'. This is exactly how the CWU think and speak. Attacking workers as 'low skilled', whatever that means. Demanding more profit for an industry that pays it's bosses millions. Pretending that the industry has competition when it's an oligopoly. Absolutely zero understanding of our history or the reality of capitalism. Put the CWU in the bin of history where it belongs.

Correct i would not class myself as low skilled
And btw we are not the best paid
Mcdonalds for example are now paying as much if not more than us
We used to laugh at people working in burger franchises not any more
Equalisation of pay and terms will be kicked into touch
RM have no intention of this happening despite their assurances
There will not be ot increases either
Ot will be done away with
Ask CWU this why did you reject 4.5% pay increase
Their answer was strings attatched
Still waiting to hear what the strings were
Profits will always be down due to creative accounting

They rejected the 4.5 % because it was linked to uso change which isn’t happening anytime soon , the workforce were becoming impatient to get the rise agreed and with it being a no strings rise it was the right decision for the sake of 0.3 % and no date for it in sight.

[SkiSunday]

Exactly! The T&C's we now have are utter dog shite compared to a few years ago, even worse for new contracts. Daniel wants "self employed" Uber/evri/Amazon style contracts across the board and it'll happen within the 5 year agreement. Every single asset will be sold off to the highest bidder.
RM is finished and the CWU clowns are scrambling to earn as much personal cash as they can before they are shut out.

[tramssirhc]

Low skilled my arse. All work, paid or unpaid, is skilled, end of.

[Mickeybrowneyes]

Decimation.
Still one of, if not, the best paid low skilled jobs out there with job security and union representation on every shop floor.
Not including the new t's and C's in that.
If the equalisation of terms is achieved the CWU will be the first union in history to reverse a two tiered workforce.
Besides the sick policy changes that will hopefully be addressed within time I really don't see the decimation that you do.
EP have committed to addressing both these issues within time.
The reality is the company need to achieve healthy profits again for all this to filter down.
Our jobs have got harder with the increase in parcels but the uberisation of the delivery industry have created an environment that it's hard to complete with these other firms that don't offer any of the benefits to employees that we get.
The return off delivering parcels is not as financially beneficial as it should be for royal mail.
It's not a equal playing field as it stands.

And this here is exactly why the CWU is not trusted by workers. 'low skilled', 'healthy profits', 'compete with other firms'. This is exactly how the CWU think and speak. Attacking workers as 'low skilled', whatever that means. Demanding more profit for an industry that pays it's bosses millions. Pretending that the industry has competition when it's an oligopoly. Absolutely zero understanding of our history or the reality of capitalism. Put the CWU in the bin of history where it belongs.

I'm a postman.
Low skilled jobs fall under the bracket of any occupation that needs minimal training to be able to work.
We fall under that bracket, like many other jobs.
We work extremely hard and many of us are very intelligent but it falls under the bracket of low skilled work.
That's just fact.

[Mickeybrowneyes]

Decimation.
Still one of, if not, the best paid low skilled jobs out there with job security and union representation on every shop floor.
Not including the new t's and C's in that.
If the equalisation of terms is achieved the CWU will be the first union in history to reverse a two tiered workforce.
Besides the sick policy changes that will hopefully be addressed within time I really don't see the decimation that you do.
EP have committed to addressing both these issues within time.
The reality is the company need to achieve healthy profits again for all this to filter down.
Our jobs have got harder with the increase in parcels but the uberisation of the delivery industry have created an environment that it's hard to complete with these other firms that don't offer any of the benefits to employees that we get.
The return off delivering parcels is not as financially beneficial as it should be for royal mail.
It's not a equal playing field as it stands.

And this here is exactly why the CWU is not trusted by workers. 'low skilled', 'healthy profits', 'compete with other firms'. This is exactly how the CWU think and speak. Attacking workers as 'low skilled', whatever that means. Demanding more profit for an industry that pays it's bosses millions. Pretending that the industry has competition when it's an oligopoly. Absolutely zero understanding of our history or the reality of capitalism. Put the CWU in the bin of history where it belongs.

Correct i would not class myself as low skilled
And btw we are not the best paid
Mcdonalds for example are now paying as much if not more than us
We used to laugh at people working in burger franchises not any more
Equalisation of pay and terms will be kicked into touch
RM have no intention of this happening despite their assurances
There will not be ot increases either
Ot will be done away with
Ask CWU this why did you reject 4.5% pay increase
Their answer was strings attatched
Still waiting to hear what the strings were
Profits will always be down due to creative accounting

The legacy contracts I am referring to.
I'm not referring to the new contracts which wasn't agreed with the union

[SkiSunday]

I'm a postman.
Low skilled jobs fall under the bracket of any occupation that needs minimal training to be able to work.
We fall under that bracket, like many other jobs.
We work extremely hard and many of us are very intelligent but it falls under the bracket of unskilled work.
That's just fact.

You shouldn't undersell yourself and your OPG colleagues tbh. Do you think that your COMs deserve the £45K wage for being 'unskilled' workers? Because most of them don't have any formal managerial qualifications or training, therefore fall under your bracket of unskilled work also.

[BELIAL]

Does anyone else find it a bit weird that all these union apologists keep telling you that your labour is worth bugger all and you are so lucky to get such a small cut in pay and terms because you are the dregs and our only objective is to increase profits for a rich person?

[Mickeybrowneyes]

I'm a postman.
Low skilled jobs fall under the bracket of any occupation that needs minimal training to be able to work.
We fall under that bracket, like many other jobs.
We work extremely hard and many of us are very intelligent but it falls under the bracket of unskilled work.
That's just fact.

You shouldn't undersell yourself and your OPG colleagues tbh. Do you think that your COMs deserve the £45K wage for being 'unskilled' workers? Because most of them don't have any formal managerial qualifications or training, therefore fall under your bracket of unskilled work also.

I know postman that earn more than that to be honest and they deserve every penny of it because they work extremely hard.
You can get caught up on factual terminology that I have used.
People often get offended by that term and I can see why but to earn what we do or can earn without an extensive training programme is not the norm.
Because of our union.

[SkiSunday]

Does anyone else find it a bit weird that all these union apologists keep telling you that your labour is worth bugger all and you are so lucky to get such a small cut in pay and terms because you are the dregs and our only objective is to increase profits for a rich person?

Yes.

[SkiSunday]

I'm a postman.
Low skilled jobs fall under the bracket of any occupation that needs minimal training to be able to work.
We fall under that bracket, like many other jobs.
We work extremely hard and many of us are very intelligent but it falls under the bracket of unskilled work.
That's just fact.

You shouldn't undersell yourself and your OPG colleagues tbh. Do you think that your COMs deserve the £45K wage for being 'unskilled' workers? Because most of them don't have any formal managerial qualifications or training, therefore fall under your bracket of unskilled work also.

I know postman(sic) that earn more than that to be honest and they deserve every penny of it because they work extremely hard.
You can get caught up on factual terminology that I have used.
People often get offended by that term and I can see why but to earn what we do or can earn without an extensive training programme is not the norm.
Because of our union.

Are they receiving London weighting allowance whilst also working 60 hours a week by any chance? Because that is diabolical if you're using that as a £45K annual wage example.

[BELIAL]

Does anyone else find it a bit weird that all these union apologists keep telling you that your labour is worth bugger all and you are so lucky to get such a small cut in pay and terms because you are the dregs and our only objective is to increase profits for a rich person?

Yes.

It’s not just me then.
Why do they do it?

[SkiSunday]

Does anyone else find it a bit weird that all these union apologists keep telling you that your labour is worth bugger all and you are so lucky to get such a small cut in pay and terms because you are the dregs and our only objective is to increase profits for a rich person?

Yes.

It’s not just me then.
Why do they do it?

Honestly? Because the majority of them are most likely not delivery OPGs.