Why would someone be replenishing a trolley if they don't do it already? Don't you currently work from a shared van?
Because 2 people in a shared van do their own loops using pouches and meet up back at the van to fill up their own pouches for the next loop,if the driver is off doing packets with th new way of working they'll have to replenish the ' none drivers' I couldn't get 4.30hrs of letters in 2 pouches as a none driver?
Don't your shared van drivers currently do parcels? All our loops are made roughly 5/10 minutes shorter for the driver to nip round and do large parcels for the area you are currently in, although it's not an exact science. If you are both back at the van at the same time, then you both just go and do it, it's surprisingly efficient. There is no waiting around for any real amount of time, you finish each area before moving on, unless there is something time dependant.
There is no third person doing the parcels on these routes, or replenishing - that third person will be doing tracked and 1c boxes etc on routes C and D, whilst A and B is being done by the 2 people in a shared van. Next day swap over.
Not oversized, the shorter loops for drivers to do big stuff ended years ago at ours, also the Limited info we have is 3 to a van, hence my question. We have DPR drivers in the afternoon and we'd need 50 more vans to do as describe
Are you sure someone hasn't seen '3 people cover 4 duties' and misunderstood it to mean 3 in a van?
Day one, A and B duties go out with 2 people doing all items, on the same day 1 person does tracked/1C/boxes/collections on duties C and D.
Day two, C and D duties go out with 2 people doing all items, on the same day 1 person does tracked/1C/boxes/collections on duties A and B.
repeat until Saturday when one person does tracked/1C/collections etc on A and B, and 1 person does it on C and D, offering up the chance for the 3rd person to have the day off.
The whole thing has been needlessly over complicated. 2nd class/downstream mail is being moved from 12 days to 5 days a fortnight for each address.
Not all 2C, the DTS will still be releasing 2C, you might get some days when it releases a load. AFAIK the 5 day limit still applies for the DTS.
It shouldn't be though. Barring a few bulk postings made every so often it shouldn't be rocket science to program machines to release a similar amount each day.
It'll be down to if a load hits the 5 day limit. If a DP has a 1C item, ALL 2C for that DP will be released. If any 2C hits the 5 day limit ALL 2C for that DP will be released.
Wouldn't matter anyway if it gets sent and isn't due it will sit in the office until it is. You can say all this it will never happen but I suggest you have a look at some of the replies about changes at MC when this kicks in fully from people way above the bods in charge of your MC and machines on robin. MC workers asking these questions and being told the system will be changing so only mail due on the day will be sent to offices and all manual will have to sent correctly segged. Don't think it's to big a deal compared to the s**t show that's Gona hit deliveries, I'm sure someone will swop from a nearby do with you if the change upsets you too much
Wouldn't matter anyway if it gets sent and isn't due it will sit in the office until it is. You can say all this it will never happen but I suggest you have a look at some of the replies about changes at MC when this kicks in fully from people way above the bods in charge of your MC and machines on robin. MC workers asking these questions and being told the system will be changing so only mail due on the day will be sent to offices and all manual will have to sent correctly segged. Don't think it's to big a deal compared to the s**t show that's Gona hit deliveries, I'm sure someone will swop from a nearby do with you if the change upsets you too much
We've already implemented the changes for the manual letters and the flats. 1C and 2C get sorted on separate frames and boxed up separatly. The 1C and 2C boxes are put onto the same yorks and then sent out to the DOs.
The 5 day limit is not going from the DTS, anything that hits the 5 day limit WILL be released. If a DP has some 1C then ALL 2C for that DP will be released. If a DP has some 2C that has hit the 5 day limit then ALL 2C for that DP will be released. We've been told that it's a 15% increase MAXIMUM on DTS levels each day so ALL walks will be getting some 2C each day.
In the trial offices, 3 people doing what 4 did, are the walkers using trollies and how often does the diver have to break off his packest to replenish thevwalkers with letters?
Assuming by walker you mean a non driver, how often would you expect a trolley to be replenished? Assuming the non driver is taking out a full trolley in the morning they are only going to need it replenished once during their duty.
Our loops vary from 15 minutes to 1 hour 30, some people will only take one loop, even if it's a 15 min one. I can see the driver having to drop mail a lot more than once a shift.
So when they make the trials finally work and then they roll it out nationally then how will that work in other offices?
For example if the trial offices need to put back in say 1 duty for every 10 duties then does this trend follow through to all the other offices? Or is it a case they reduce each walk by so many minutes?
The point I'm getting at is that once the trial offices are running smoothly eventually then how we can guarantee the rest of us will be ok?
Why would someone be replenishing a trolley if they don't do it already? Don't you currently work from a shared van?
Because 2 people in a shared van do their own loops using pouches and meet up back at the van to fill up their own pouches for the next loop,if the driver is off doing packets with th new way of working they'll have to replenish the ' none drivers' I couldn't get 4.30hrs of letters in 2 pouches as a none driver?
Don't your shared van drivers currently do parcels? All our loops are made roughly 5/10 minutes shorter for the driver to nip round and do large parcels for the area you are currently in, although it's not an exact science. If you are both back at the van at the same time, then you both just go and do it, it's surprisingly efficient. There is no waiting around for any real amount of time, you finish each area before moving on, unless there is something time dependant.
There is no third person doing the parcels on these routes, or replenishing - that third person will be doing tracked and 1c boxes etc on routes C and D, whilst A and B is being done by the 2 people in a shared van. Next day swap over.
Not oversized, the shorter loops for drivers to do big stuff ended years ago at ours, also the Limited info we have is 3 to a van, hence my question. We have DPR drivers in the afternoon and we'd need 50 more vans to do as describe
Eh? No you wouldn't.
3 people would cover 4 duties.
On duties A and B the van share pair deliver everything, just like you do now (except heavier mail)
On duties C and D a singleton does 1c and packets on C and D.
Next day, eveything's delivered on C and D by a van share pair, a singleton does 1c / packets on A and B
Repeat.
4 van share duties, 2 vans. Exactly the same as now.
Question for those on trials now.
How much shorter are your duties compared to how they were or how much shorter are they finally expected to be once things are ironed out? 50-80 houses on an average housing estate???
Leaving behind (for now) some of the issues with the ODM - something tells me that the theory behind it is totally lost on some, possibly due to it never having been explained.
Leaving behind (for now) some of the issues with the ODM - something tells me that the theory behind it is totally lost on some, possibly due to it never having been explained.
Yep, the information they have provided is horribly over-complicated.
All this Evie this, Ahmed that bollocks.
It's as if they think we're too thick to understand, so need to over-explain and over- detail everything, which only actually increases confusion.
Leaving behind (for now) some of the issues with the ODM - something tells me that the theory behind it is totally lost on some, possibly due to it never having been explained.
It's been explained countless times on here but alas, it's still lost...
Sorry if I've offended anyone.
Leaving behind (for now) some of the issues with the ODM - something tells me that the theory behind it is totally lost on some, possibly due to it never having been explained.
It's been explained countless times on here but alas, it's still lost...
Sorry if I've offended anyone.
It's no problem. What kind of delivery do you normally do and I'll explain it around that. i.e, HCT, shared van driver, shared van passenger, solo van driver.
