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Serious for delivering age verification

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Mr Rush
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Re: Serious for delivering age verification

Post by Mr Rush »

Acca Dacca wrote:
27 Jun 2025, 17:21
No. The prompts for Date Of Birth and confirming the customer is over the age are both before the photo prompt
I've been in the position where I've placed a normal Tracked into the mechanism of a customer's parcel box, stepped back to take a proper photo and the weight or either the packet or the trap door has fed the packet into the box before the PDA fired the second flash.
Also, a few times I've fed small Tracked items through letterboxes after taking a photo before I've realised the PDA then continues on to the signature screen.
And the tiny words 'Age Verification' don't exactly jump out like a silver SD bag.
So, all these things combined; it is not completely impossible that a very unfortunate series of genuine mistakes took place.
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Acca Dacca
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Re: Serious for delivering age verification

Post by Acca Dacca »

Mr Rush wrote:
27 Jun 2025, 20:43
Acca Dacca wrote:
27 Jun 2025, 17:21
No. The prompts for Date Of Birth and confirming the customer is over the age are both before the photo prompt
I've been in the position where I've placed a normal Tracked into the mechanism of a customer's parcel box, stepped back to take a proper photo and the weight or either the packet or the trap door has fed the packet into the box before the PDA fired the second flash.
Also, a few times I've fed small Tracked items through letterboxes after taking a photo before I've realised the PDA then continues on to the signature screen.
And the tiny words 'Age Verification' don't exactly jump out like a silver SD bag.
So, all these things combined; it is not completely impossible that a very unfortunate series of genuine mistakes took place.
You dont seem to get what im asking

I KNOW that its easy to put the parcel through by mistake

Im asking what did he do then? Put in fake details and sign for it or hit cancel.

What would you have done?
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Hitcher
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Re: Serious for delivering age verification

Post by Hitcher »

Mr Rush wrote:
27 Jun 2025, 20:43
Acca Dacca wrote:
27 Jun 2025, 17:21
No. The prompts for Date Of Birth and confirming the customer is over the age are both before the photo prompt
I've been in the position where I've placed a normal Tracked into the mechanism of a customer's parcel box, stepped back to take a proper photo and the weight or either the packet or the trap door has fed the packet into the box before the PDA fired the second flash.
Also, a few times I've fed small Tracked items through letterboxes after taking a photo before I've realised the PDA then continues on to the signature screen.
And the tiny words 'Age Verification' don't exactly jump out like a silver SD bag.
So, all these things combined; it is not completely impossible that a very unfortunate series of genuine mistakes took place.
Except they're clearly marked on the initial scan with a dot for signature or 18+ for Age verification before you even decide to click deliver to customer!
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SkiSunday
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Re: Serious for delivering age verification

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The guy literally posted some good advice about getting a 1 year serious for making a mistake and you f***ing jobsworths are arguing about the minutae of what he done. Give it a rest FFS
Acca Dacca
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Re: Serious for delivering age verification

Post by Acca Dacca »

SkiSunday wrote:
28 Jun 2025, 08:24
The guy literally posted some good advice about getting a 1 year serious for making a mistake and you f***ing jobsworths are arguing about the minutae of what he done. Give it a rest FFS
He hasn’t posted any advice because I’m asking what he actually done to remedy the problem of still having it on his scanner after he posted it and he won’t answer

It would help if he did

He might have avoided a serious if for instance he cancelled the scan, phoned his manager and explained what happened rather than put in fake details

That’s why I’m asking

So we know what to do or not to do if it happened to us
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scoobydo79
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Re: Serious for delivering age verification

Post by scoobydo79 »

A guy in our area has just been dismissed after a lengthy investigation over an age verification. Customer complained by all accounts
TopperGas
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Re: Serious for delivering age verification

Post by TopperGas »

Acca Dacca wrote:
28 Jun 2025, 10:44
SkiSunday wrote:
28 Jun 2025, 08:24
The guy literally posted some good advice about getting a 1 year serious for making a mistake and you f***ing jobsworths are arguing about the minutae of what he done. Give it a rest FFS
He hasn’t posted any advice because I’m asking what he actually done to remedy the problem of still having it on his scanner after he posted it and he won’t answer

It would help if he did

He might have avoided a serious if for instance he cancelled the scan, phoned his manager and explained what happened rather than put in fake details

That’s why I’m asking

So we know what to do or not to do if it happened to us
Problem is everyone is treated differently, plus customers all act differently. The lesson learned must be never put a parcel anywhere near a parcel box or letter box until you've checked the PDA for an AV warning, and under no circumstances leave one in a safe place as a favour to the customer.
menditsa
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Re: Serious for delivering age verification

Post by menditsa »

sindba wrote:
22 Jun 2025, 21:25
The DOB request is the first thing that comes up on the PDA.

So you obviously inputted DOB without the customer present BEFORE taking the photo or posting it.

A deserved Serious, sorry. We all know how important the AV procedure is.

Just do things properly now, you'll be fine.
I thought AV was designed to stop youngsters (18 under) from purchasing items they should not.
They can still buy age restricted items if mum or dad signs for it so it's all a bit pointless anyway.
Hitcher
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Re: Serious for delivering age verification

Post by Hitcher »

menditsa wrote:
30 Jun 2025, 00:03
They can still buy age restricted items if mum or dad signs for it so it's all a bit pointless anyway.
:roll:
It's not our problem if their parents are idiots.
postman15
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Re: Serious for delivering age verification

Post by postman15 »

How the RM can find out that someone put a fake year but still over "25 years" as his age. No customer complaint made as per the manager. How come royal mail knows the age of the person the parcel being delivered to and manager complaining to the postie that he has put a fake age in this case as 1960 as birth date.

Thanks
richietns
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Re: Serious for delivering age verification

Post by richietns »

Hitcher wrote:
30 Jun 2025, 08:04
menditsa wrote:
30 Jun 2025, 00:03
They can still buy age restricted items if mum or dad signs for it so it's all a bit pointless anyway.
:roll:
It's not our problem if their parents are idiots.
Idiots for signing for some nail clippers,they are not all knives.
Acca Dacca
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Re: Serious for delivering age verification

Post by Acca Dacca »

postman15 wrote:
09 Sep 2025, 14:38
How the RM can find out that someone put a fake year but still over "25 years" as his age. No customer complaint made as per the manager. How come royal mail knows the age of the person the parcel being delivered to and manager complaining to the postie that he has put a fake age in this case as 1960 as birth date.

Thanks
A pattern that is too unlikely to be a coincidence perhaps

There have been people in my office who put the same year of birth for all of the age verification items they delivered

2 or 3 in a row can be a coincidence but 7 or 8 all delivered with 1960 put as the year of birth raises eyebrows
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Serious for delivering age verification

Post by clashcityrocker »

Acca Dacca wrote:
09 Sep 2025, 16:52

2 or 3 in a row can be a coincidence but 7 or 8 all delivered with 1960 put as the year of birth raises eyebrows
Especially if someone has been dim enough to use their own date of birth.
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yellowbelly
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Re: Serious for delivering age verification

Post by yellowbelly »

postman15 wrote:
09 Sep 2025, 14:38
How the RM can find out that someone put a fake year but still over "25 years" as his age. No customer complaint made as per the manager. How come royal mail knows the age of the person the parcel being delivered to and manager complaining to the postie that he has put a fake age in this case as 1960 as birth date.

Thanks
Test item perhaps?
Acca Dacca
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Re: Serious for delivering age verification

Post by Acca Dacca »

clashcityrocker wrote:
09 Sep 2025, 17:12
Acca Dacca wrote:
09 Sep 2025, 16:52

2 or 3 in a row can be a coincidence but 7 or 8 all delivered with 1960 put as the year of birth raises eyebrows
Especially if someone has been dim enough to use their own date of birth.
Its just the year it asks for but yeah same year would be silly but not as outrageously stupid as if it was the date
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