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clashcityrocker
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by clashcityrocker »

milly wrote:
27 May 2025, 22:05

An immigrant is someone who moves to another Country with the intention of living there permanently.
Footballers don't fall under that category.
How is a footballer's intentions different to a care worker or a health professional or a banker?
People's intentions change with time.

So immigration could be brought to zero overnight by everyone declaring they have "no intention to live there permanently?"
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by milly »

clashcityrocker wrote:
28 May 2025, 06:49
milly wrote:
27 May 2025, 22:05

An immigrant is someone who moves to another Country with the intention of living there permanently.
Footballers don't fall under that category.
How is a footballer's intentions different to a care worker or a health professional or a banker?
People's intentions change with time.

So immigration could be brought to zero overnight by everyone declaring they have "no intention to live there permanently?"
Because in general footballers don't come to the UK with the intention of living here permanently.
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Re: Pay rise %

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LouBarlow wrote:
28 May 2025, 05:25
Walter sobchak wrote:
26 May 2025, 19:44
milly wrote:
26 May 2025, 19:11
Jefferson Starfish wrote:
26 May 2025, 19:10
mjd24 wrote:
26 May 2025, 18:52
431’000.

Small boat arrivals 37’000.

So the “uncontrolled” number is almost insignificant.

Do you understand what im saying? Tories and Labour realise that we need a certain number of immigrants to come in and help with things like our care system and the nhs.

Maybe 431’000 net migration is too high, but the fact its halved vs 2023 doesbt really get mentioned.

Even when ive pointed it out on here, the responses are basically “oh well 431’000 is too much”.

Ok fine, but surely youre happy its dropped by 50%?

And the worrying thing for Starmer is that even if he got net migration to zero (which would be stupid), his critics would not suddenly be satisfied, the next craving would be for deportations.

Im off to watch Clarksons Farm 🙋‍♂️
Some people are only interested in their own agenda's
Nah, people are interested why this Country is going down the toilet.
This 100%

Im 45 years old and I’ve never known a time like what we are currently living through now and this includes the thatcher years of miners strikes, poll tax and privatisation etc as well as the economic downturns and recession of the early 90’s and financial crash 2008 as well as Covid self inflicted economic crisis.

Something is definitely not right with the country and the current direction of travel and more and more people are getting angry about it and demanding change.
The country has a problem. Quick lets blame the immigrants (again) :chuckle

All so predictable.
Nobody is blaming immigrants, it's the fact that we don't have the infrastructure to deal with them.
And the fact that the Government is taking away the WFA from British Citizens but can find money to put people in hotels that shouldn't be in the UK.
People who've paid into the system all their lives are losing out to people that haven't paid a penny into the system.
You can't have a welfare state and unlimited immigration, its not a difficult concept to understand.
mjd24
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by mjd24 »

Conflating immigration with the tiny minority put up in hotels again.

And do you really think they have much of a life in those hotels?
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by milly »

mjd24 wrote:
28 May 2025, 08:27
Conflating immigration with the tiny minority put up in hotels again.

And do you really think they have much of a life in those hotels?
They don't have to worry about heating bills unlike our own Pensioners.
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by mjd24 »

Millie you have just ignored my point that you are conflating the small boat people with general immigration. The vast majority of immigrants come here on work and student visas. Its just a fact. Why can we not deal with facts rather than feelings?
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Re: Pay rise %

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mjd24 wrote:
28 May 2025, 08:41
Millie you have just ignored my point that you are conflating the small boat people with general immigration. The vast majority of immigrants come here on work and student visas. Its just a fact. Why can we not deal with facts rather than feelings?
WFA removed for pensioners FACT.
Immigrants in Hotels have no heating bills to pay FACT.
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Post by Frankie15 »

I think I speak for the majority here by asking this question as its what the topic says instead of scrolling through loads of political stuff that I personally don't care about. And that is, are we getting a pay rise or not? And what percentage?
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

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Re: Pay rise %

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milly wrote:
28 May 2025, 08:45
mjd24 wrote:
28 May 2025, 08:41
Millie you have just ignored my point that you are conflating the small boat people with general immigration. The vast majority of immigrants come here on work and student visas. Its just a fact. Why can we not deal with facts rather than feelings?
WFA removed for pensioners FACT.
Immigrants in Hotels have no heating bills to pay FACT.
Ok so you dont want to reply to my point, thats fine. I dont know why we cant sometimes back down a little or accept that the other may have made a good point. This footballification of politics is so toxic and doesnt help anyone.
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by Wullie10 »

That a lot to read and to be honest I've just flicked through it , but I have noticed a trend over the last few years.
The amount of postmen ( working people in general) taking their pensions at the first opportunity . I know everyone's situation is different and I've heard all the arguments for and against. But as most seem to take their pensions and continue working probably speaks volumes about the low pay and high cost of living. Basically they are taking money that was meant for retirement to survive today . Once state pension age is reached I see many people struggling because they took pension early. Its obvious that future pensions are going to be means tested for benefits and taxes to be paid. So a few hundred a month may seem nice at the moment while we keep working but it could destroy any chance of a decent retirement. I waited till 60 to take mine , paid in extra and to be honest its not that great. Thank God I left it alone at 55.
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by milly »

Wullie10 wrote:
02 Jun 2025, 08:25
That a lot to read and to be honest I've just flicked through it , but I have noticed a trend over the last few years.
The amount of postmen ( working people in general) taking their pensions at the first opportunity . I know everyone's situation is different and I've heard all the arguments for and against. But as most seem to take their pensions and continue working probably speaks volumes about the low pay and high cost of living. Basically they are taking money that was meant for retirement to survive today . Once state pension age is reached I see many people struggling because they took pension early. Its obvious that future pensions are going to be means tested for benefits and taxes to be paid. So a few hundred a month may seem nice at the moment while we keep working but it could destroy any chance of a decent retirement. I waited till 60 to take mine , paid in extra and to be honest its not that great. Thank God I left it alone at 55.
I'll be taking mine when I'm 55 due to the fact that the Government refuses to stop messing around with them.
Its going from 55 to 57, who's to say they won't push it out further to the state pension age.
Rachel from accounts thinks its a good idea for pensions to be invested in illiquid and risky UK assets, they're also looking at changing or abolishing salary sacrifice.
Labour are that desperate for cash they now view our pensions as a legitimate funding source.