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Clappedoutpostie
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Re: Trail options

Post by Clappedoutpostie »

Double mail, triple mail, one weeks mail its irrelevant at this point. Whatever it is it doesn’t really matter what they give you, you are there for a set amount of hours. Been the way for afew years, just do what you can and go home.
yellowbelly
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Re: Trail options

Post by yellowbelly »

Perseus wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 19:12
Is there a difference between singleton van duties and rural duties when it comes to this new way?

We have a few bona fide Rural duties, who appear to be going to be left as they are, 6 day delivery of all items. However, we also have quite a few singleton duties that have maybe 45 minutes worth of Rural on them, at the edge of villages etc. The rest of the duty is full on suburbia. Is there a threshold of what makes a duty Rural?
We've got this issue too but the opposite way round. New build growth and revisions meant many if not all of about 10 - 15 what were were 'pure' rurals - outside the town limits, first drop a farm etc. had bits of new builds that were on the edges on town put on them as they were too far for a HCT walk to get to - or they were given the large parcels, SD's on the town roads that led to their rural to drop off - as it was on the way! Some parts of these new builds that were given to the 'rural' are 100 - 150 houses. Often you'll see two 'rural' bods on parts of the same new build estate before they get to their 'rural'.

So I can understand your point - what's a rural route anymore?
ted_e_bear
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Re: Trail options

Post by ted_e_bear »

yellowbelly wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 11:08
Perseus wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 19:12
Is there a difference between singleton van duties and rural duties when it comes to this new way?

We have a few bona fide Rural duties, who appear to be going to be left as they are, 6 day delivery of all items. However, we also have quite a few singleton duties that have maybe 45 minutes worth of Rural on them, at the edge of villages etc. The rest of the duty is full on suburbia. Is there a threshold of what makes a duty Rural?
We've got this issue too but the opposite way round. New build growth and revisions meant many if not all of about 10 - 15 what were were 'pure' rurals - outside the town limits, first drop a farm etc. had bits of new builds that were on the edges on town put on them as they were too far for a HCT walk to get to - or they were given the large parcels, SD's on the town roads that led to their rural to drop off - as it was on the way! Some parts of these new builds that were given to the 'rural' are 100 - 150 houses. Often you'll see two 'rural' bods on parts of the same new build estate before they get to their 'rural'.

So I can understand your point - what's a rural route anymore?
Good point, I suppose it will become apparent but surely they'll send in a planner to change the rurals to be all rural and create duties that only do suburban areas, or is that too simple, otherwise it won't work properly will it you'll potentially get next street or even nextdoor neighbours when one gets a delivery every day and the other 5 times fortnightly.
Perseus
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Re: Trail options

Post by Perseus »

ted_e_bear wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 11:17
yellowbelly wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 11:08
Perseus wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 19:12
Is there a difference between singleton van duties and rural duties when it comes to this new way?

We have a few bona fide Rural duties, who appear to be going to be left as they are, 6 day delivery of all items. However, we also have quite a few singleton duties that have maybe 45 minutes worth of Rural on them, at the edge of villages etc. The rest of the duty is full on suburbia. Is there a threshold of what makes a duty Rural?
We've got this issue too but the opposite way round. New build growth and revisions meant many if not all of about 10 - 15 what were were 'pure' rurals - outside the town limits, first drop a farm etc. had bits of new builds that were on the edges on town put on them as they were too far for a HCT walk to get to - or they were given the large parcels, SD's on the town roads that led to their rural to drop off - as it was on the way! Some parts of these new builds that were given to the 'rural' are 100 - 150 houses. Often you'll see two 'rural' bods on parts of the same new build estate before they get to their 'rural'.

So I can understand your point - what's a rural route anymore?
Good point, I suppose it will become apparent but surely they'll send in a planner to change the rurals to be all rural and create duties that only do suburban areas, or is that too simple, otherwise it won't work properly will it you'll potentially get next street or even nextdoor neighbours when one gets a delivery every day and the other 5 times fortnightly.
I shouldn't laugh, but that is happening all over just now, just for other reasons.
ted_e_bear
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Re: Trail options

Post by ted_e_bear »

Perseus wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 11:53
ted_e_bear wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 11:17
yellowbelly wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 11:08
Perseus wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 19:12
Is there a difference between singleton van duties and rural duties when it comes to this new way?

We have a few bona fide Rural duties, who appear to be going to be left as they are, 6 day delivery of all items. However, we also have quite a few singleton duties that have maybe 45 minutes worth of Rural on them, at the edge of villages etc. The rest of the duty is full on suburbia. Is there a threshold of what makes a duty Rural?
We've got this issue too but the opposite way round. New build growth and revisions meant many if not all of about 10 - 15 what were were 'pure' rurals - outside the town limits, first drop a farm etc. had bits of new builds that were on the edges on town put on them as they were too far for a HCT walk to get to - or they were given the large parcels, SD's on the town roads that led to their rural to drop off - as it was on the way! Some parts of these new builds that were given to the 'rural' are 100 - 150 houses. Often you'll see two 'rural' bods on parts of the same new build estate before they get to their 'rural'.

So I can understand your point - what's a rural route anymore?
Good point, I suppose it will become apparent but surely they'll send in a planner to change the rurals to be all rural and create duties that only do suburban areas, or is that too simple, otherwise it won't work properly will it you'll potentially get next street or even nextdoor neighbours when one gets a delivery every day and the other 5 times fortnightly.
I shouldn't laugh, but that is happening all over just now, just for other reasons.
Haha I know, the shared van duty I live on went out alternating all week, next street down went out every day. :crazy:
A2B
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Re: Trail options

Post by A2B »

We do the even numbers of one road every day the odd numbers are lucky to get twice a week
Perseus
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Re: Trail options

Post by Perseus »

ted_e_bear wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 12:07
Perseus wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 11:53
ted_e_bear wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 11:17
yellowbelly wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 11:08
Perseus wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 19:12
Is there a difference between singleton van duties and rural duties when it comes to this new way?

We have a few bona fide Rural duties, who appear to be going to be left as they are, 6 day delivery of all items. However, we also have quite a few singleton duties that have maybe 45 minutes worth of Rural on them, at the edge of villages etc. The rest of the duty is full on suburbia. Is there a threshold of what makes a duty Rural?
We've got this issue too but the opposite way round. New build growth and revisions meant many if not all of about 10 - 15 what were were 'pure' rurals - outside the town limits, first drop a farm etc. had bits of new builds that were on the edges on town put on them as they were too far for a HCT walk to get to - or they were given the large parcels, SD's on the town roads that led to their rural to drop off - as it was on the way! Some parts of these new builds that were given to the 'rural' are 100 - 150 houses. Often you'll see two 'rural' bods on parts of the same new build estate before they get to their 'rural'.

So I can understand your point - what's a rural route anymore?
Good point, I suppose it will become apparent but surely they'll send in a planner to change the rurals to be all rural and create duties that only do suburban areas, or is that too simple, otherwise it won't work properly will it you'll potentially get next street or even nextdoor neighbours when one gets a delivery every day and the other 5 times fortnightly.
I shouldn't laugh, but that is happening all over just now, just for other reasons.
Haha I know, the shared van duty I live on went out alternating all week, next street down went out every day. :crazy:
Been like that for a while in ours, in times of really really bad staff shortages on paper at least, we only had enough staff to deliver to each address 3-4 times a week. Instead of that happening, some shared vans rotated (as best they could), some duties got mail once a week, and others got mail every day.
ted_e_bear
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Re: Trail options

Post by ted_e_bear »

A2B wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 12:12
We do the even numbers of one road every day the odd numbers are lucky to get twice a week
:left: Be careful with jokes like that someone from RM upper management will steal that as their idea
A2B
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Re: Trail options

Post by A2B »

It's no joke 😞
Londonsburning
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Re: Trail options

Post by Londonsburning »

A2B wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 19:39
It's no joke 😞
This is exactly why paying 4 or 5 COMs a 45K salary each to run an office is ridiculous. Back in the day line managers used to occasionally take the odd bag out on delivery to clear the office. Now it depends on what side of the street you live on whether you get mail.
I've heard the term "firefighting" a lot over the last few years from management, still doesn't stop them f***ing off home at the earliest opportunity every day lol
oypostie
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Re: Trail options

Post by oypostie »

Firefighting, yes, but who caused the fires :whistle :whistle
Londonsburning
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Re: Trail options

Post by Londonsburning »

oypostie wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 18:25
Firefighting, yes, but who caused the fires :whistle :whistle
The very people who employ 4 or 5 managers to go home early whilst earning over £20ph every day, yet only pay £12.54ph to OPGs... :d'oh! Obvious when you think about it ain't it?
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Re: Trail options

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Whatever trails are going on, let's ensure they're happy.



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Rommagic
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Re: Trail options

Post by Rommagic »

Can anyone explain why 2 in 6 is better then 2 in 5 for full time jobs?.
Neverwasadoor
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Re: Trail options

Post by Neverwasadoor »

With 2 in 6 the day off covers are full time, where as the 2 in 5 that are part time.
In my office we can only realistically choose one option as the good ones don't fit our late start times.