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Job losses 2025

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loyalsnail
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Re: Job losses 2025

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postslippete wrote:
09 Apr 2025, 07:02
loyalsnail wrote:
08 Apr 2025, 21:51

Not quite right, there aren't 6,000 senior managers (more like 1,600) and the private medical insurance isn't free (there's a benefit in kind cost associated with it and an excess to pay on the first claim per year per person). Still, better than a slap across the face.

There's certainly too many chief on too much money

This was this the article, maybe they have got rid of a rid of a few of those managers since?

https://employeebenefits.co.uk/pensions ... 20benefit.
Must have got rid of a lot.

Probably need to take that site with a pinch of salt... After all, if you look at the right (or wrong) site you'll find posties get paid £60k plus per year!
Crowseer
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Re: Job losses 2025

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Don’t be under the impression the EP group will be handing out payoff money to anyone who wants it. They’ll just shake you out of the tree so you quit. I was told something like “you will still have a job but you might need to go to another office to help out”. Listen to the language used by both the union and RM. They regularly say “anyone that wants a job at RM will have one”. That’s very ambiguous. You could be offered a leave reserve job in an office 20 miles away.

Basic maths shows our office would easily shed 20 jobs under the USO. That’s best case scenario where it goes to alternative days of the week. If it’s just a 3 day delivery it could easily be 50%. Our office can’t complete walks as they are let alone 2-3 days of mail with a massively increased call rate. It will crash badly within a matter of weeks by which time the place will be like amazon
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Re: Job losses 2025

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Crowseer wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 12:48
Don’t be under the impression the EP group will be handing out payoff money to anyone who wants it. They’ll just shake you out of the tree so you quit. I was told something like “you will still have a job but you might need to go to another office to help out”. Listen to the language used by both the union and RM. They regularly say “anyone that wants a job at RM will have one”. That’s very ambiguous. You could be offered a leave reserve job in an office 20 miles away.

Basic maths shows our office would easily shed 20 jobs under the USO. That’s best case scenario where it goes to alternative days of the week. If it’s just a 3 day delivery it could easily be 50%. Our office can’t complete walks as they are let alone 2-3 days of mail with a massively increased call rate. It will crash badly within a matter of weeks by which time the place will be like amazon
If your unit could shed 20 jobs, why are walks failing?
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norris9
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Re: Job losses 2025

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Crowseer wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 12:48
Don’t be under the impression the EP group will be handing out payoff money to anyone who wants it. They’ll just shake you out of the tree so you quit. I was told something like “you will still have a job but you might need to go to another office to help out”. Listen to the language used by both the union and RM. They regularly say “anyone that wants a job at RM will have one”. That’s very ambiguous. You could be offered a leave reserve job in an office 20 miles away.

Basic maths shows our office would easily shed 20 jobs under the USO. That’s best case scenario where it goes to alternative days of the week. If it’s just a 3 day delivery it could easily be 50%. Our office can’t complete walks as they are let alone 2-3 days of mail with a massively increased call rate. It will crash badly within a matter of weeks by which time the place will be like amazon
In our office people leave regularly....surely it's not that hard to lose what they need to lose through natural wastage....

Maybe in smaller offices with people who never leave and have had the same 5 to 20 people for years and years....this is where people will get paid off.
Crowseer
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Re: Job losses 2025

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Barnacle wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 14:48
Crowseer wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 12:48
Don’t be under the impression the EP group will be handing out payoff money to anyone who wants it. They’ll just shake you out of the tree so you quit. I was told something like “you will still have a job but you might need to go to another office to help out”. Listen to the language used by both the union and RM. They regularly say “anyone that wants a job at RM will have one”. That’s very ambiguous. You could be offered a leave reserve job in an office 20 miles away.

Basic maths shows our office would easily shed 20 jobs under the USO. That’s best case scenario where it goes to alternative days of the week. If it’s just a 3 day delivery it could easily be 50%. Our office can’t complete walks as they are let alone 2-3 days of mail with a massively increased call rate. It will crash badly within a matter of weeks by which time the place will be like amazon
If your unit could shed 20 jobs, why are walks failing?
I was referring to the USO changes. In RM land if walks are failing now (pre USO) then they won’t fail when they bring in the changes as half the walks will be left in the office on any given day ie half the staff won’t be needed. Of course the walks that DO go out won’t be completed as the call rate will increase but that’s another story for another day
Mickeybrowneyes
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Re: Job losses 2025

Post by Mickeybrowneyes »

Recruitment has slowed down.
People will leave naturally or retire.
There will be VRs, maybe not as many as the 2,000 touted but no doubt there will be some.
Some people may be offered roles in the area if their office is overstaffed.
Many new starters are used to working in many local offices as it's in their contracts.
Londonsburning
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Re: Job losses 2025

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Mickeybrowneyes wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 16:48
Recruitment has slowed down.
People will leave naturally or retire.
There will be VRs, maybe not as many as the 2,000 touted but no doubt there will be some.
Some people may be offered roles in the area if their office is overstaffed.
Many new starters are used to working in many local offices as it's in their contracts.
I'm absolutely convinced Martin Walsh will be along either tomorrow or Sunday on this very thread to explain the CWU stance on this. :thumbup
qwerty2
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Re: Job losses 2025

Post by qwerty2 »

Mickeybrowneyes wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 16:48
Recruitment has slowed down.
People will leave naturally or retire.
There will be VRs, maybe not as many as the 2,000 touted but no doubt there will be some.
Some people may be offered roles in the area if their office is overstaffed.
Many new starters are used to working in many local offices as it's in their contracts.
More PTs will leave soon if they can’t get OT anymore!!!!!
Loads have got used to getting OT nearly everyday now it’s stopped
Mickeybrowneyes
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Re: Job losses 2025

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qwerty2 wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 21:57
Mickeybrowneyes wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 16:48
Recruitment has slowed down.
People will leave naturally or retire.
There will be VRs, maybe not as many as the 2,000 touted but no doubt there will be some.
Some people may be offered roles in the area if their office is overstaffed.
Many new starters are used to working in many local offices as it's in their contracts.
More PTs will leave soon if they can’t get OT anymore!!!!!
Loads have got used to getting OT nearly everyday now it’s stopped
Maybe but they will more than likely get offered a full time role at some point if they can afford to hold out for the changes.
I understand that may not be financially viable for them now.
menditsa
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Re: Job losses 2025

Post by menditsa »

Mickeybrowneyes wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 02:41
qwerty2 wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 21:57
Mickeybrowneyes wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 16:48
Recruitment has slowed down.
People will leave naturally or retire.
There will be VRs, maybe not as many as the 2,000 touted but no doubt there will be some.
Some people may be offered roles in the area if their office is overstaffed.
Many new starters are used to working in many local offices as it's in their contracts.
More PTs will leave soon if they can’t get OT anymore!!!!!
Loads have got used to getting OT nearly everyday now it’s stopped
Maybe but they will more than likely get offered a full time role at some point if they can afford to hold out for the changes.
I understand that may not be financially viable for them now.
Being moved from a start time of 8am finishing at 14.30 to a start time of 14.00 finishing at 20.30 is driving more people to leave than the financial loss.