ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

USO update

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
Acca Dacca
Posts: 3179
Joined: 16 Aug 2009, 17:13
Gender: Male

Re: USO update

Post by Acca Dacca »

scotchy1962 wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 17:57
I try to give the benefit of the doubt and not be too cynical about these statements, but when i read about manageable workloads, fatigue, etc i can't help but wonder what on earth you are on about.
There's very little to nothing since privatisation that suggests this company give a flying feck about my workload and physical wellbeing.
Otherwise why would they have made all the duties oversized in the first place, they don't care if i can complete in my time as long as the tracked get done, and two and three days mail is the norm nowadays.
If they really cared the duties would be shortened, they would recognise how physical the job has become and figure a way to alleviate that.
Making the duties longer to give us more saturdays off, while sounding great, will probably be too much for some of us and the rest of you will pay for it in the future when your bodies age.
These delivery companies need brought to heel and made to treat their workers better.
And most importantly

They wouldnt have reduced our sick pay
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
Sean06
Posts: 2214
Joined: 20 Nov 2023, 16:50
Gender: Male

Re: USO update

Post by Sean06 »

Sick pay was reduced for a reason an all those that abused it know it.an yet some of them still do good luck if they can afford to lose wages.
Edward Hunter
Posts: 673
Joined: 23 May 2007, 22:30

Re: USO update

Post by Edward Hunter »

Your logic is flawed, as was the response to the problem by the company. Dont penalise the 95% who dont abuse it, sort out the ones that do.
Mr Rush
Posts: 2914
Joined: 05 Aug 2011, 14:27
Gender: Male

Re: USO update

Post by Mr Rush »

Londonsburning wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 15:02
I was more than happy when we were a six day week and our shift patterns were 5am to 11.30am Mon-Sat with a sub 400 call rate Martin :pray
When I started under SDD, Saturday was my favourite day because it was the last remnant of the pre-noon finishes. I suggested last year returning to six days but with Tuesday and Saturday as half-days in the AM (5 days over 6). Never any chance of it happening, though, because it's all about afternoon and evening delivery of Tracked.
The machine stops.
claretandblue
Posts: 876
Joined: 01 Aug 2007, 12:14

Re: USO update

Post by claretandblue »

Edward Hunter wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 20:10
Your logic is flawed, as was the response to the problem by the company. Dont penalise the 95% who dont abuse it, sort out the ones that do.
This, the response should been to reward the 95% who don't take the pi$$
Pidleypoo
Posts: 692
Joined: 17 Dec 2014, 10:05
Gender: Male

Re: USO update

Post by Pidleypoo »

claretandblue wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 14:45
Pidleypoo wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 14:43
I might be being thick here but why would having more Saturdays off mean working longer in the week ?

I’m contracted to work 37 hrs a week over 1/6 and Saturdays are our shortest days

So for example if we worked the ours we do mon-fri we’d work more than 37 hours per week.

If I’m also correct that Mondays and Tuesdays would need more time because they’d be essentially 3 days mail then that has to come from the other days making them shorter 🤷‍♂️
Incorrect, Saturdays have nothing to do with it, 3 days mail means you will be working longer Monday and Tuesday, 2 days mail Wednesday to Friday. 9 day fortnights are the answer.
What do you think Mondays and Tuesdays will need more time means ?

Saturdays have everything to do with it because if you’re on a 1/6 then it averages out at 37 over 6 weeks.

Our hours now would mean a mon-fri would be 38 hrs 10 mins but Tuesdays are the second shortest day.

We don’t even complete one duty on any of those days with 2 days mail and the tracked.

So Tuesdays would at least need another 1:30 which would make wed-fri shorter and they’re already impossible.
Last edited by Pidleypoo on 02 Feb 2025, 20:48, edited 1 time in total.
jessicarabbit
Posts: 605
Joined: 05 Nov 2009, 19:57
Gender: Female

Re: USO update

Post by jessicarabbit »

Mon route A will have had the 2c last delivered on Thursday so effectively 3 days mail less the 1c.
Tue route B will have had the 2c last delivered on Friday so effectively 3 days mail less the 1c

Current modelling estimates a 78% call rate add in the D2D prep that needs to be done, Monday and Tuesday become the new Wednesdays.

It's got s**t show and clusterfuck written all over it.
claretandblue
Posts: 876
Joined: 01 Aug 2007, 12:14

Re: USO update

Post by claretandblue »

Pidleypoo wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 20:39
claretandblue wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 14:45
Pidleypoo wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 14:43
I might be being thick here but why would having more Saturdays off mean working longer in the week ?

I’m contracted to work 37 hrs a week over 1/6 and Saturdays are our shortest days

So for example if we worked the ours we do mon-fri we’d work more than 37 hours per week.

If I’m also correct that Mondays and Tuesdays would need more time because they’d be essentially 3 days mail then that has to come from the other days making them shorter 🤷‍♂️
Incorrect, Saturdays have nothing to do with it, 3 days mail means you will be working longer Monday and Tuesday, 2 days mail Wednesday to Friday. 9 day fortnights are the answer.
What do you think Mondays and Tuesdays will need more time means ?
Because there's no mail on Saturday so Monday and Tuesday will be your busiest days.
Pidleypoo
Posts: 692
Joined: 17 Dec 2014, 10:05
Gender: Male

Re: USO update

Post by Pidleypoo »

claretandblue wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 20:47
Pidleypoo wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 20:39
claretandblue wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 14:45
Pidleypoo wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 14:43
I might be being thick here but why would having more Saturdays off mean working longer in the week ?

I’m contracted to work 37 hrs a week over 1/6 and Saturdays are our shortest days

So for example if we worked the ours we do mon-fri we’d work more than 37 hours per week.

If I’m also correct that Mondays and Tuesdays would need more time because they’d be essentially 3 days mail then that has to come from the other days making them shorter 🤷‍♂️
Incorrect, Saturdays have nothing to do with it, 3 days mail means you will be working longer Monday and Tuesday, 2 days mail Wednesday to Friday. 9 day fortnights are the answer.
What do you think Mondays and Tuesdays will need more time means ?
Because there's no mail on Saturday so Monday and Tuesday will be your busiest days.
That is simply not my point.
Pidleypoo
Posts: 692
Joined: 17 Dec 2014, 10:05
Gender: Male

Re: USO update

Post by Pidleypoo »

jessicarabbit wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 20:46
Mon route A will have had the 2c last delivered on Thursday so effectively 3 days mail less the 1c.
Tue route B will have had the 2c last delivered on Friday so effectively 3 days mail less the 1c

Current modelling estimates a 78% call rate add in the D2D prep that needs to be done, Monday and Tuesday become the new Wednesdays.

It's got s**t show and clusterfuck written all over it.
Unless people are going to change their buying habits then Wednesdays will still be the busiest parcel days.
A2B
Posts: 1796
Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 19:34
Gender: Male

Re: USO update

Post by A2B »

Edward Hunter wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 20:10
Your logic is flawed, as was the response to the problem by the company. Dont penalise the 95% who dont abuse it, sort out the ones that do.
Well said 👍
kazardaimenu
Posts: 1391
Joined: 13 Apr 2022, 19:11
Gender: Male

Re: USO update

Post by kazardaimenu »

Some offices have duties that that take their large parcels and others have DPR drivers. Will there still be DPR routes under the new method?
claretandblue
Posts: 876
Joined: 01 Aug 2007, 12:14

Re: USO update

Post by claretandblue »

Pidleypoo wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 20:51
jessicarabbit wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 20:46
Mon route A will have had the 2c last delivered on Thursday so effectively 3 days mail less the 1c.
Tue route B will have had the 2c last delivered on Friday so effectively 3 days mail less the 1c

Current modelling estimates a 78% call rate add in the D2D prep that needs to be done, Monday and Tuesday become the new Wednesdays.

It's got s**t show and clusterfuck written all over it.
Unless people are going to change their buying habits then Wednesdays will still be the busiest parcel days.
Yes, for parcels but not for mail.
kazardaimenu
Posts: 1391
Joined: 13 Apr 2022, 19:11
Gender: Male

Re: USO update

Post by kazardaimenu »

Is delivery 2.0 dead?
thefox
Posts: 1112
Joined: 24 Aug 2010, 20:09
Gender: Male

Re: USO update

Post by thefox »

ted_e_bear wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 14:29
enskied wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 14:19
claretandblue wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 11:32
The union mentioned making duties smaller to accommodate higher calls rates, has this now been abandoned in favour of longer days and more days off ?
Unachievable duties have just been extended in our revision. So even if the do make them smaller they will still be unachievable.

It's a total stitch up for deliveries. The trial offices will be successful, they will not be allowed to fail until the OFCOM deal is signed off. Then the s**t hits the fan.
Of course they'll be successful, they'll be overstaffed from day one as they said excess staff won't be sent elsewhere so plenty of hands on deck more than the workplan requirements to ensure it goes smoothly, plenty of spare folk to get all d2ds in ready for Monday, I bet they chuck early ips in as well to ensure the 3 days mail every Mon/Tue gets out of the door in good time.

Yeah I'm a cynical old bastard perhaps I'm wrong.
Your not wrong,your 100% right.