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Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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thefox
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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Mr Rush wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 21:00
Okay, I was keeping track up to the summer, then took my eye off the ball, but now I think I've got this right...

MON 04/09/23 high season for 15 weeks to SAT 16/12/23
FT 24x5x15 = +1800mins, PT 10x5x15 = +750mins
balance FT +1800mins (+30hrs), PT +750mins (+12:30hrs)

MON 22/01/24 low season for 5 weeks to SAT 24/02/24 and extended for 5 weeks to SAT 23/03/24
FT -24x5x10 = -1200mins, PT -10x5x10 = -500mins
balance FT +600mins (+10hrs), PT +250mins (+4:10hrs)

MON 17/06/24 low season for 11 weeks to SAT 31/08/24
FT -24x5x11 = -1320mins, PT -10x5x11 = -550mins
balance FT -720mins (-12hrs), PT -300mins (-5hrs)

MON 18/11/24 high season for 5 weeks to SAT 21/12/24
FT 24x5x5 = +600mins, PT 10x5x5 = +250mins

Balance at the end of December should be in the company's favour: FT -120mins (-2hrs), PT -50mins.

I just hope no-one on night shift has an aneurysm trying to calculate this with daylight savings taken into account.
Ahhh they extended the 5 weeks we got at start of the year by another 5 weeks I completely forgot about that🤭
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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postslippete wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 18:20
Royal Mail don't care how constant changes affects their employees. By overloading us with continual change staff often react by withdrawing and become less engaged. Everything is constantly being micro-managed and brought up in daily huddles by managers and it leads to cynicism, low morale, higher stress levels and burnout.
Well said mate :Applause

While at the same time they're spouting off about ''Family Friendly Hours'' and ''Mental Health''. In our ''Huddles'' (they take less time than a proper WTLL session, hence more time for YOU to deliver) we are often pulled up for making ''Negative Comments'' or not being 'Willing to accept new working practices'' FFS. :speak to the hand

The points you make are very valid and even at this early stage a lot of staff are simply switching off over the whole Christmas Drama. :cuppa
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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This is really causing friction at our office.. We were told this morn the old contract part timers have to come in 10mins earlier but those part time on new contract me included, have to come in 30 mins earlier, summat to do with the paid breaks and all fin at same time..
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2024, 07:08
RTP wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 21:30
SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 13:28
kazardaimenu wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 11:28
24 mins earlier from next week but that might not be possible for all and we’ll probably end up waiting on mail to arrive from the Mc anyway.
Dispatch times won't be changing so what's the point in DOs starting earlier? If they're going to make the days longer in DOs then they should make the finishes later
Clearly some offices are still doing ok and MC staff don't have a clue and don't give a damn about what is going on in other offices if that is the mindset.
Still won't make any dispatches go out any earlier. If anything I can see the wave 2 dispatches going out later as we're bound to start getting over a double stackers worth of mail coming in each night soon. With the changes to outward dispatches when it comes down to it we'll have to give priority to the 2C outward as we don't have a later run any more It might mean the wave 2 has to go our later. If there's not very much available to go out to the DOs, then RM aren't going to waste fuel, they'll just hold the mail back until there's enough mail to make it worth doing the run to the DOs
It doesn't really matter when the letters arrive as they can be parked and sorted the next morning, as long as the tracked have arrived all is good in delivery office world.
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2024, 07:08


Still won't make any dispatches go out any earlier. If anything I can see the wave 2 dispatches going out later as we're bound to start getting over a double stackers worth of mail coming in each night soon.
Maybe you should all just work a little bit harder in the MC?
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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They should do like us in DO. As little as possible.
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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10% on the last wagon is a joke now. More letters on the last wave than all the rest. We get a tiny bundle that's sequenced and the rest has to be manually sorted. Why is this SP?.
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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RTP wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2024, 21:47
10% on the last wagon is a joke now. More letters on the last wave than all the rest. We get a tiny bundle that's sequenced and the rest has to be manually sorted. Why is this SP?.
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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thefox wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 19:48
Pidleypoo wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 19:29
thefox wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 19:18
Pidleypoo wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 16:53
To be clear to all on here about this.

The high season starts next week and finishes the week before Christmas so 5 weeks in total.

It is time we owe them.

This part of seasonal variation was only ever meant to be added to the start of shifts so absolutely no one should have it added at the

How is it time we owe them
Because we worked the low season for 5 weeks longer.
In our office we done 15 weeks last xmas we then got 4 weeks back around February then 11 weeks back in the summer so we don't owe them nowt
they owed us 6 weeks ( 12 hours ) from xmas 2023 which they gave posties back this summer and also another 5 weeks ( 10 hours ) in summer , which would be paid back this christmas , but because i was on sick during all the pay back time in summer due to an operation i was told i wont get my 6 weeks back what they owe me and then to take the piss even more they want me to start early and work for FREE to pay them the 10 hours back which i never got , its a total piss take :evil/mad , in have contacted the cwu and royal mail , still awaiting a reply from both .
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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RTP wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2024, 21:47
10% on the last wagon is a joke now. More letters on the last wave than all the rest. We get a tiny bundle that's sequenced and the rest has to be manually sorted. Why is this SP?.
Probably the CSS is running over and has missed the wave 1 dispatch. Is the tiny bundle of sequenced and the rest wave 1 or wave 2? Wave 2 is meant to be walk sort only.

Some mech misses the cut-off point to be sorted on the iLSMs/IMPs to batch level and so just gets sorted to office level only
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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fadetogrey63 wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2024, 15:32
This is really causing friction at our office.. We were told this morn the old contract part timers have to come in 10mins earlier but those part time on new contract me included, have to come in 30 mins earlier, summat to do with the paid breaks and all fin at same time..
Remember it's illegal to work 6 hours without a uninterrupted 20 mins break
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
15 Nov 2024, 07:12
RTP wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2024, 21:47
10% on the last wagon is a joke now. More letters on the last wave than all the rest. We get a tiny bundle that's sequenced and the rest has to be manually sorted. Why is this SP?.
Probably the CSS is running over and has missed the wave 1 dispatch. Is the tiny bundle of sequenced and the rest wave 1 or wave 2? Wave 2 is meant to be walk sort only.

Some mech misses the cut-off point to be sorted on the iLSMs/IMPs to batch level and so just gets sorted to office level only
Wave 2 stopped being walksort months ago here why is it even the little fundamental things differ around the country.
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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ted_e_bear wrote: ↑
15 Nov 2024, 10:04
SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
15 Nov 2024, 07:12
RTP wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2024, 21:47
10% on the last wagon is a joke now. More letters on the last wave than all the rest. We get a tiny bundle that's sequenced and the rest has to be manually sorted. Why is this SP?.
Probably the CSS is running over and has missed the wave 1 dispatch. Is the tiny bundle of sequenced and the rest wave 1 or wave 2? Wave 2 is meant to be walk sort only.

Some mech misses the cut-off point to be sorted on the iLSMs/IMPs to batch level and so just gets sorted to office level only
Wave 2 stopped being walksort months ago here why is it even the little fundamental things differ around the country.
Has your local MC stopped sending any mech for wave 2? If they haven't, have they gone back to sequencing it?
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
15 Nov 2024, 11:59
ted_e_bear wrote: ↑
15 Nov 2024, 10:04
SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
15 Nov 2024, 07:12
RTP wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2024, 21:47
10% on the last wagon is a joke now. More letters on the last wave than all the rest. We get a tiny bundle that's sequenced and the rest has to be manually sorted. Why is this SP?.
Probably the CSS is running over and has missed the wave 1 dispatch. Is the tiny bundle of sequenced and the rest wave 1 or wave 2? Wave 2 is meant to be walk sort only.

Some mech misses the cut-off point to be sorted on the iLSMs/IMPs to batch level and so just gets sorted to office level only
Wave 2 stopped being walksort months ago here why is it even the little fundamental things differ around the country.
Has your local MC stopped sending any mech for wave 2? If they haven't, have they gone back to sequencing it?
No everything on the 2nd lorry is mixed to be done on ips.