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Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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thefox
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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Pidleypoo wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 16:53
To be clear to all on here about this.

The high season starts next week and finishes the week before Christmas so 5 weeks in total.

It is time we owe them.

This part of seasonal variation was only ever meant to be added to the start of shifts so absolutely no one should have it added at the

How is it time we owe them
twoloops
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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We start 24 minutes earlier next week, but part timers have been told to stay as they were 🤔
Pidleypoo
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

Post by Pidleypoo »

thefox wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 19:18
Pidleypoo wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 16:53
To be clear to all on here about this.

The high season starts next week and finishes the week before Christmas so 5 weeks in total.

It is time we owe them.

This part of seasonal variation was only ever meant to be added to the start of shifts so absolutely no one should have it added at the

How is it time we owe them
Because we worked the low season for 5 weeks longer.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

Post by SpacePhoenix »

thefox wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 14:22
Aye thanks for that sp just what we need extra time on the streets.
Not extra time, just the earlier start time added to the end not the beginning of the shift as you won't get the lorry in any earlier than the summer.
GRS
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

Post by GRS »

SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 19:33
thefox wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 14:22
Aye thanks for that sp just what we need extra time on the streets.
Not extra time, just the earlier start time added to the end not the beginning of the shift as you won't get the lorry in any earlier than the summer.
You need people in earlier during this period due the huge volumes that need IPS. By the time the last lorry rolls in we have to be pretty much up to date on IPS & prep otherwise we won’t ever get out. 28 or so full time staff doing an extra 24 minutes sorting helps get people out at a more reasonable time. Once an office becomes overwhelmed with mail still to be sorted plus another lot rolling off the lorry the whole office morale goes through the floor with everyone adopting the attitude of “we’re never gonna get out today”. The more time that’s added to the front of the duties the better it is all round.

By the way what happened to the much vaulted only 10% of mail on the last lorry!!!!!!!
thefox
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

Post by thefox »

Pidleypoo wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 19:29
thefox wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 19:18
Pidleypoo wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 16:53
To be clear to all on here about this.

The high season starts next week and finishes the week before Christmas so 5 weeks in total.

It is time we owe them.

This part of seasonal variation was only ever meant to be added to the start of shifts so absolutely no one should have it added at the

How is it time we owe them
Because we worked the low season for 5 weeks longer.
In our office we done 15 weeks last xmas we then got 4 weeks back around February then 11 weeks back in the summer so we don't owe them nowt
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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GRS wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 19:48
By the way what happened to the much vaulted only 10% of mail on the last lorry!!!!!!!
That's down to when it arrives at the MC. Our last lorry is meant to be just a dozen yorks but we can often end up getting a full up double stacker.

Can't wait for both inward and 2C outward to be snowed under. They done away with our later 2C run so the 2C will have to take priority over the inward if both the inward and 2C outward are in the s**t
thefox
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 19:33
thefox wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 14:22
Aye thanks for that sp just what we need extra time on the streets.
Not extra time, just the earlier start time added to the end not the beginning of the shift as you won't get the lorry in any earlier than the summer.
We would be doing the 24 mins on the street they would lapse us to fill the extra time at the end,end of the day the agreement was 24 mins in the morning that's their problem if there's no work for us.
Mr Rush
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

Post by Mr Rush »

Okay, I was keeping track up to the summer, then took my eye off the ball, but now I think I've got this right...

MON 04/09/23 high season for 15 weeks to SAT 16/12/23
FT 24x5x15 = +1800mins, PT 10x5x15 = +750mins
balance FT +1800mins (+30hrs), PT +750mins (+12:30hrs)

MON 22/01/24 low season for 5 weeks to SAT 24/02/24 and extended for 5 weeks to SAT 23/03/24
FT -24x5x10 = -1200mins, PT -10x5x10 = -500mins
balance FT +600mins (+10hrs), PT +250mins (+4:10hrs)

MON 17/06/24 low season for 11 weeks to SAT 31/08/24
FT -24x5x11 = -1320mins, PT -10x5x11 = -550mins
balance FT -720mins (-12hrs), PT -300mins (-5hrs)

MON 18/11/24 high season for 5 weeks to SAT 21/12/24
FT 24x5x5 = +600mins, PT 10x5x5 = +250mins

Balance at the end of December should be in the company's favour: FT -120mins (-2hrs), PT -50mins.

I just hope no-one on night shift has an aneurysm trying to calculate this with daylight savings taken into account.
The machine stops.
Pidleypoo
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

Post by Pidleypoo »

thefox wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 19:48
Pidleypoo wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 19:29
thefox wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 19:18
Pidleypoo wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 16:53
To be clear to all on here about this.

The high season starts next week and finishes the week before Christmas so 5 weeks in total.

It is time we owe them.

This part of seasonal variation was only ever meant to be added to the start of shifts so absolutely no one should have it added at the

How is it time we owe them
Because we worked the low season for 5 weeks longer.
In our office we done 15 weeks last xmas we then got 4 weeks back around February then 11 weeks back in the summer so we don't owe them nowt
Yes we do.
OikOik
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

Post by OikOik »

Start 10 minutes earlier as a part timer at my DO.
RTP
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

Post by RTP »

SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 13:28
kazardaimenu wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 11:28
24 mins earlier from next week but that might not be possible for all and we’ll probably end up waiting on mail to arrive from the Mc anyway.
Dispatch times won't be changing so what's the point in DOs starting earlier? If they're going to make the days longer in DOs then they should make the finishes later
Clearly some offices are still doing ok and MC staff don't have a clue and don't give a damn about what is going on in other offices if that is the mindset.
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

Post by SpacePhoenix »

RTP wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 21:30
SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 13:28
kazardaimenu wrote: ↑
13 Nov 2024, 11:28
24 mins earlier from next week but that might not be possible for all and we’ll probably end up waiting on mail to arrive from the Mc anyway.
Dispatch times won't be changing so what's the point in DOs starting earlier? If they're going to make the days longer in DOs then they should make the finishes later
Clearly some offices are still doing ok and MC staff don't have a clue and don't give a damn about what is going on in other offices if that is the mindset.
Still won't make any dispatches go out any earlier. If anything I can see the wave 2 dispatches going out later as we're bound to start getting over a double stackers worth of mail coming in each night soon. With the changes to outward dispatches when it comes down to it we'll have to give priority to the 2C outward as we don't have a later run any more It might mean the wave 2 has to go our later. If there's not very much available to go out to the DOs, then RM aren't going to waste fuel, they'll just hold the mail back until there's enough mail to make it worth doing the run to the DOs
Smoothbackground
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

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I consider myself fortunate to work the same 40 hours and same steady shift pattern all year round.
scoobydo79
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Re: Seasonal hours change 18th Nov

Post by scoobydo79 »

Ok . I can in 24 minutes earlier . What am I meant to be doing? More sorting or is it more time to prep D2Ds and throw in walk?