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Gross Misconduct

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LouBarlow
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Re: Gross Misconduct

Post by LouBarlow »

DaveF14 wrote: ↑
28 Mar 2024, 15:52
Th special will be tracked to that delivery point, with the GPS tracking. The postman can be using delivery without signature, the photo could be obscured without noticing. If hes got a clean record and good at the job, nothing to worry about. Especially if its just one item. Royal Mail should be sacking the snowflakes who are off sick most weeks instead of the guy that's misplaced one special.
There is no delivery without a signature for special deliveries. They have already admitted to signing for it. You don’t accidentally sign for something fraudulently.
CarryingMGMT
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Gross Misconduct

Post by CarryingMGMT »

LouBarlow wrote: ↑
28 Mar 2024, 19:07
DaveF14 wrote: ↑
28 Mar 2024, 15:52
Th special will be tracked to that delivery point, with the GPS tracking. The postman can be using delivery without signature, the photo could be obscured without noticing. If hes got a clean record and good at the job, nothing to worry about. Especially if its just one item. Royal Mail should be sacking the snowflakes who are off sick most weeks instead of the guy that's misplaced one special.
There is no delivery without a signature for special deliveries. They have already admitted to signing for it. You don’t accidentally sign for something fraudulently.
You also don't accidentally work overtime under duress because of your employer. Through fraudulent work practices :thumbup
R5001
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Re: Gross Misconduct

Post by R5001 »

LouBarlow wrote: ↑
28 Mar 2024, 19:07
DaveF14 wrote: ↑
28 Mar 2024, 15:52
Th special will be tracked to that delivery point, with the GPS tracking. The postman can be using delivery without signature, the photo could be obscured without noticing. If hes got a clean record and good at the job, nothing to worry about. Especially if its just one item. Royal Mail should be sacking the snowflakes who are off sick most weeks instead of the guy that's misplaced one special.
There is no delivery without a signature for special deliveries. They have already admitted to signing for it. You don’t accidentally sign for something fraudulently.
Deprecated (believe old Charles has opted for just signed for?), and potential for a misunderstanding if someone really pushed, the Queens 'telegrams' style centenary and long marriage wedding cards were both special and to be signed for by the postie if the occupant was not present and the address wasn't clearly dilapidated.
SpacePhoenix
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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Joined: 12 Nov 2008, 17:03
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Re: Gross Misconduct

Post by SpacePhoenix »

R5001 wrote: ↑
28 Mar 2024, 21:33
LouBarlow wrote: ↑
28 Mar 2024, 19:07
DaveF14 wrote: ↑
28 Mar 2024, 15:52
Th special will be tracked to that delivery point, with the GPS tracking. The postman can be using delivery without signature, the photo could be obscured without noticing. If hes got a clean record and good at the job, nothing to worry about. Especially if its just one item. Royal Mail should be sacking the snowflakes who are off sick most weeks instead of the guy that's misplaced one special.
There is no delivery without a signature for special deliveries. They have already admitted to signing for it. You don’t accidentally sign for something fraudulently.
Deprecated (believe old Charles has opted for just signed for?), and potential for a misunderstanding if someone really pushed, the Queens 'telegrams' style centenary and long marriage wedding cards were both special and to be signed for by the postie if the occupant was not present and the address wasn't clearly dilapidated.
Also if they got missorted, the office that they were missorted to had to ring up a special number at the palace to explain what had happened to them
frankieboy
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Joined: 12 May 2008, 18:34

Re: Gross Misconduct

Post by frankieboy »

MontyTodd wrote: ↑
28 Mar 2024, 12:15
Yes, its a Sackable offense.

If you're on an older (better paid) contract, then they will probably sack your Ass.

It's pants down time my friend.
You've hit the nail on the head, person on old contract was sacked, person on new contract was let off, stinks.
scoobydo79
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Joined: 15 May 2011, 19:04
Gender: Male

Re: Gross Misconduct

Post by scoobydo79 »

Two things I will not do for anyone
Sign for a special
Leave item in recycling bin. Even if they ask
LouBarlow
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Joined: 15 Oct 2007, 18:56

Re: Gross Misconduct

Post by LouBarlow »

scoobydo79 wrote: ↑
29 Mar 2024, 08:58
Two things I will not do for anyone
Sign for a special
Leave item in recycling bin. Even if they ask
I wouldn’t sign for anything. Recorded included. We have people being conduct coded for doing it.
SMS1969
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Joined: 28 Jun 2021, 11:36
Gender: Male

Re: Gross Misconduct

Post by SMS1969 »

We were told last week in a meeting that we must not dws anything. So no signing - just bring them back. You can’t get into trouble for that- well, not yet anyway.
yellowbelly
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Re: Gross Misconduct

Post by yellowbelly »

R5001 wrote: ↑
28 Mar 2024, 21:33
LouBarlow wrote: ↑
28 Mar 2024, 19:07
DaveF14 wrote: ↑
28 Mar 2024, 15:52
Th special will be tracked to that delivery point, with the GPS tracking. The postman can be using delivery without signature, the photo could be obscured without noticing. If hes got a clean record and good at the job, nothing to worry about. Especially if its just one item. Royal Mail should be sacking the snowflakes who are off sick most weeks instead of the guy that's misplaced one special.
There is no delivery without a signature for special deliveries. They have already admitted to signing for it. You don’t accidentally sign for something fraudulently.
Deprecated (believe old Charles has opted for just signed for?), and potential for a misunderstanding if someone really pushed, the Queens 'telegrams' style centenary and long marriage wedding cards were both special and to be signed for by the postie if the occupant was not present and the address wasn't clearly dilapidated.
I had a 60th wedding anniversary one from BH the other day, just signed for, no chit on it that said 'post it anyway' (paraphrasing) like they
used to previously.
Jack1960
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Joined: 05 Jan 2016, 17:39
Gender: Male

Re: Gross Misconduct

Post by Jack1960 »

1617mel wrote: ↑
28 Mar 2024, 09:29
We always had an agreement ,the international specials some after scanning don't even need a signature, so treated like a tracked, but RM specials never deviated from the fact that they never get passed on unless a signature was had, we all know you could be carrying a £1000 worth of holiday money etc.
On another note this is my final day with RM, IDS. so I'm retiring ,66 next birthday .enjoyed the craic on these forums, some of you guys would make stand up! Thanks to the administrator, true blue , Robert T for all his fantastic pension advice ,and Woodie Guthrie who in my opinion had very fair and unbiased comments .,and all unmentioned people for the great knowledge . Hope in the future the workforce, get some peace ✌️.
Good luck with your retirement I'm finally going in August this year after one postponement, started in 1976 ! All the best
DGH
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Re: Gross Misconduct

Post by DGH »

SMS1969 wrote: ↑
29 Mar 2024, 10:05
We were told last week in a meeting that we must not dws anything. So no signing - just bring them back. You can’t get into trouble for that- well, not yet anyway.
You can (and really should) DWS an item where the recipient is unable to provide a signature due to disability. That's what the DWS procedure is for.
Barnacle
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Re: Gross Misconduct

Post by Barnacle »

DGH wrote: ↑
29 Mar 2024, 15:00
SMS1969 wrote: ↑
29 Mar 2024, 10:05
We were told last week in a meeting that we must not dws anything. So no signing - just bring them back. You can’t get into trouble for that- well, not yet anyway.
You can (and really should) DWS an item where the recipient is unable to provide a signature due to disability. That's what the DWS procedure is for.
Yes, I have three people who live on my walk who I routinely sign for because asking them to sign would cause them supreme difficulty.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
postslippete
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Re: Gross Misconduct

Post by postslippete »

What used to happen during Covid - signing and posting stuff - is not applicable anymore. As frustrating as it is that we now have Tracked items that come through the locker as Specials and Tracked items that require a signature even when a safe place has been specified; its always best to just do that and not cut corners however tempting it might be.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
SMS1969
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Re: Gross Misconduct

Post by SMS1969 »

DGH wrote: ↑
29 Mar 2024, 15:00
SMS1969 wrote: ↑
29 Mar 2024, 10:05
We were told last week in a meeting that we must not dws anything. So no signing - just bring them back. You can’t get into trouble for that- well, not yet anyway.
You can (and really should) DWS an item where the recipient is unable to provide a signature due to disability. That's what the DWS procedure is for.
Yes of course, and I would explain this to the screw in case of any comeback.👍
CarryingMGMT
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Gross Misconduct

Post by CarryingMGMT »

SMS1969 wrote: ↑
29 Mar 2024, 17:42
DGH wrote: ↑
29 Mar 2024, 15:00
SMS1969 wrote: ↑
29 Mar 2024, 10:05
We were told last week in a meeting that we must not dws anything. So no signing - just bring them back. You can’t get in for that- well, not yet anyway.
You can (and really should) DWS an item where the recipient is unable to provide a signature due to disability. That's what the DWS procedure is for.
Yes of course, and I would explain this to the screw in case of any comeback.👍
You'll get conduct coded for it if you work at loubarlow s office though, so make sure you 739 all disabled and infirm people on your walk. :left: