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NETWORK CHANGES - LATER START AND FINISH TIMES IN DELIVERY OFFICES

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enskied
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Re: NETWORK CHANGES - LATER START AND FINISH TIMES IN DELIVERY OFFICES

Post by enskied »

Mickeybrowneyes wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 21:14
claretandblue wrote:
18 Feb 2024, 18:49
hans solo wrote:
18 Feb 2024, 18:45
claretandblue wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 12:32
How does moving your meal relief mean you can finish earlier?
Is it even legal
Apparently having your meal relief while there's dead time between waves 1 and 2 means you can finish earlier :crazy:
Yes it's legal.
Many places split their breaks now.
20 minutes at normal break time and then 20 minutes at the end.
We all knew this was happening, it's been explained for months.
The changes are allot less drastic then predicted because of hard fought negotiations from the union.
The planes were being pulled whatever the outcome of the dispute was.
Capacity reasons and losing customers to green related aims made sure of that.
The union have mitigated the damage as much as they could.
Fighting for an eventual 35 hours week and potential watering down of 1st class targets in any USO changes in the future may even revert the times back to the status quo.
Time to get behind the union again.
Royal mail won't fight for your work life balance, only the union will.
But the patiently haven't. They were not before. They sat back letting all this s**t roll down hill ultimately to delivery as was always.
qwerty2
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Re: NETWORK CHANGES - LATER START AND FINISH TIMES IN DELIVERY OFFICES

Post by qwerty2 »

LouBarlow wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 21:15
Valentina@1 wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 14:19
guardianangel wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 12:38
Philbag70 wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 05:47
This is completely unacceptable. You have let us down badly. Congratulations on colluding with RM and giving them carte blanch to do whatever the hell they like.
Despicable and dishonest behaviour
over 70% voted for it.
Sadly,trusted their union,nobody would have foreseen that CWU would sell members out?
How are the CWU selling their members out? They have actively improved this aspect of the agreement that we voted on. RM wanted a lot more. To get only 15 minutes of change for a lot of offices is remarkable. They should be commended.
There’s nothing to stop them saying in a few months “we need to put start/finish times even later - this is just the start
2chorizon
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Re: NETWORK CHANGES - LATER START AND FINISH TIMES IN DELIVERY OFFICES

Post by 2chorizon »

qwerty2 wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 22:48
LouBarlow wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 21:15
Valentina@1 wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 14:19
guardianangel wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 12:38
Philbag70 wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 05:47
This is completely unacceptable. You have let us down badly. Congratulations on colluding with RM and giving them carte blanch to do whatever the hell they like.
Despicable and dishonest behaviour
over 70% voted for it.
Sadly,trusted their union,nobody would have foreseen that CWU would sell members out?
How are the CWU selling their members out? They have actively improved this aspect of the agreement that we voted on. RM wanted a lot more. To get only 15 minutes of change for a lot of offices is remarkable. They should be commended.
There’s nothing to stop them saying in a few months “we need to put start/finish times even later - this is just the start
This ^
2chorizon
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Re: NETWORK CHANGES - LATER START AND FINISH TIMES IN DELIVERY OFFICES

Post by 2chorizon »

enskied wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 22:02
Mickeybrowneyes wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 21:14
claretandblue wrote:
18 Feb 2024, 18:49
hans solo wrote:
18 Feb 2024, 18:45
claretandblue wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 12:32
How does moving your meal relief mean you can finish earlier?
Is it even legal
Apparently having your meal relief while there's dead time between waves 1 and 2 means you can finish earlier :crazy:
Yes it's legal.
Many places split their breaks now.
20 minutes at normal break time and then 20 minutes at the end.
We all knew this was happening, it's been explained for months.
The changes are allot less drastic then predicted because of hard fought negotiations from the union.
The planes were being pulled whatever the outcome of the dispute was.
Capacity reasons and losing customers to green related aims made sure of that.
The union have mitigated the damage as much as they could.
Fighting for an eventual 35 hours week and potential watering down of 1st class targets in any USO changes in the future may even revert the times back to the status quo.
Time to get behind the union again.
Royal mail won't fight for your work life balance, only the union will.
But the patiently haven't. They were not before. They sat back letting all this s**t roll down hill ultimately to delivery as was always.
Mail Centre’s are about to get screwed, been delayed till Feb 29th at ours, that means it’ll be bad news probably 1-1.5hrs
guardianangel
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Re: NETWORK CHANGES - LATER START AND FINISH TIMES IN DELIVERY OFFICES

Post by guardianangel »

Ren Hoëk wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 20:49
guardianangel wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 19:43
Philbag70 wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 15:06
guardianangel wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 12:38
Philbag70 wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 05:47
This is completely unacceptable. You have let us down badly. Congratulations on colluding with RM and giving them carte blanch to do whatever the hell they like.
Despicable and dishonest behaviour
over 70% voted for it.
Indeed. I voted NO and I'm still bitter and angry about it! Lol
The deed is done however and now we face the consequences.
Me too ,its funny watching all the yes voters moaning like f--k.
Iv yet to find a single yes voter...Rarer than hen's teeth apparently.
I reckon it was a stitch up ,not many voted yes in our office, its becoming just like our general elections, we are more like Russia everyday.
hans solo
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Re: NETWORK CHANGES - LATER START AND FINISH TIMES IN DELIVERY OFFICES

Post by hans solo »

enskied wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 22:02
Mickeybrowneyes wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 21:14
claretandblue wrote:
18 Feb 2024, 18:49
hans solo wrote:
18 Feb 2024, 18:45
claretandblue wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 12:32
How does moving your meal relief mean you can finish earlier?
Is it even legal
Apparently having your meal relief while there's dead time between waves 1 and 2 means you can finish earlier :crazy:
Yes it's legal.
Many places split their breaks now.
20 minutes at normal break time and then 20 minutes at the end.
We all knew this was happening, it's been explained for months.
The changes are allot less drastic then predicted because of hard fought negotiations from the union.
The planes were being pulled whatever the outcome of the dispute was.
Capacity reasons and losing customers to green related aims made sure of that.
The union have mitigated the damage as much as they could.
Fighting for an eventual 35 hours week and potential watering down of 1st class targets in any USO changes in the future may even revert the times back to the status quo.
Time to get behind the union again.
Royal mail won't fight for your work life balance, only the union will.
But the patiently haven't. They were not before. They sat back letting all this s**t roll down hill ultimately to delivery as was always.
But we dont get our break at a normal time
1 and a half hours into an 8 hour day is not normal
mafiaman
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Re: NETWORK CHANGES - LATER START AND FINISH TIMES IN DELIVERY OFFICES

Post by mafiaman »

With all these changes same people will still start early and work through some of there meal breaks if not all .Then you'll be having a revision every year ,more changes it won't stop until they get workers on the contracts they want.
yellowbelly
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Re: NETWORK CHANGES - LATER START AND FINISH TIMES IN DELIVERY OFFICES

Post by yellowbelly »

2chorizon wrote:
20 Feb 2024, 02:03

Mail Centre’s are about to get screwed, been delayed till Feb 29th at ours, that means it’ll be bad news probably 1-1.5hrs
How can DO's get their times if the MC's haven't been informed of theirs?
Redacer
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Re: NETWORK CHANGES - LATER START AND FINISH TIMES IN DELIVERY OFFICES

Post by Redacer »

Have some feelings for the many selfish, (not all), strikebreakers. They have been hit so hard by this as well.
lfc77
2chorizon
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Re: NETWORK CHANGES - LATER START AND FINISH TIMES IN DELIVERY OFFICES

Post by 2chorizon »

yellowbelly wrote:
20 Feb 2024, 08:30
2chorizon wrote:
20 Feb 2024, 02:03

Mail Centre’s are about to get screwed, been delayed till Feb 29th at ours, that means it’ll be bad news probably 1-1.5hrs
How can DO's get their times if the MC's haven't been informed of theirs?
We were told feb 19th like the rest of the country, then over the weekend a notice went up saying they are reviewing the IPWH and this will be completed feb 26th, then new duty sets will be drawn up.
March 25th new duty sets agreed and signed off.
Go live june 17th. (anyone notice that has changed from june 1st?)
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2chorizon
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: NETWORK CHANGES - LATER START AND FINISH TIMES IN DELIVERY OFFICES

Post by SpacePhoenix »

2chorizon wrote:
20 Feb 2024, 09:12
yellowbelly wrote:
20 Feb 2024, 08:30
2chorizon wrote:
20 Feb 2024, 02:03

Mail Centre’s are about to get screwed, been delayed till Feb 29th at ours, that means it’ll be bad news probably 1-1.5hrs
How can DO's get their times if the MC's haven't been informed of theirs?
We were told feb 19th like the rest of the country, then over the weekend a notice went up saying they are reviewing the IPWH and this will be completed feb 26th, then new duty sets will be drawn up.
March 25th new duty sets agreed and signed off.
Go live june 17th. (anyone notice that has changed from june 1st?)
Sounds like we can expect re-signs on every shift in every MC as a result.
RTP
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Re: NETWORK CHANGES - LATER START AND FINISH TIMES IN DELIVERY OFFICES

Post by RTP »

It's crazy that all delivery offices have been given new start times and yet nobody seems to know when the mail and parcels will actually arrive from the mail centres.
noseovertail
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Re: NETWORK CHANGES - LATER START AND FINISH TIMES IN DELIVERY OFFICES

Post by noseovertail »

Happy to confirm I'm one of the lucky few who are moving by 90 minutes!!!!!!!! :dance
As a single parent this is just great news. Just great.
Fannybaws
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Re: NETWORK CHANGES - LATER START AND FINISH TIMES IN DELIVERY OFFICES

Post by Fannybaws »

Some of our local DO's have had no change at all, MC not that far away, but I don't see that lasting. These changes just seem like the start of a very slippery slope and to think back in the day we were always the first company out on the streets delivering and nowadays probably the last out.