How do you sort your packets into the frame?

[scoobydo79]

I like to put small stuff into the slots. Slightly bigger I will wedge into the frame and bigger stuff I load directly into the appropriate pouch.

So what do you do?

[Mr Rush]

Without quoting all the above post what's this about fittings starting at the bottom left ?
Every one I've seen starts top left.

Every single frame I encountered started at the bottom left. Across multiple DOs.

This is utterly bizzare to me. Every one I've ever seen starts at the top left, as one would read in a book: left to right, top to bottom.

[2chorizon]

Without quoting all the above post what's this about fittings starting at the bottom left ?
Every one I've seen starts top left.

Every single frame I encountered started at the bottom left. Across multiple DOs.

This is utterly bizzare to me. Every one I've ever seen starts at the top left, as one would read in a book: left to right, top to bottom.

Every frame i've prepped so far (admittedly only about 8) started bottom left.
& ran left to right / bottom to top!

[Mr Rush]

Yet more proof that there is little consistency across the operation.

Out of curiousity, does anyone have a copy of 'RM2000 Preparation Guide'?

[SpacePhoenix]

Yet more proof that there is little consistency across the operation.

Yep. You'd think that something like this would have a method that's taught to everyone, considering that it's something that all staff in DOs have to do

[Basildon Bond]

The frame generally runs from bottom left along the bottom row to the end at the right and then moves up a row and repeats from left to right. However, over the years a frame may have "collapsing" added on so there may be a bit of a wing added on to either the right or left the has its own way of running - it could be bottom to top; left to right or the complete opposite.

Well well. This has opened a bit of a debate. Which way does your frame run? Is this a north/south divide? England vs Scotland etc.? Something else?

For me, bouncing around multiple DOs (7+) all the frames run bottom left to top right (apart from the occasional "wing" on a frame for some collapsing that goes a different way). Weird that it would run any other way in my little world.

[postslippete]

This is utterly bizzare to me. Every one I've ever seen starts at the top left, as one would read in a book: left to right, top to bottom.

This is how our frames are organised. From top left to bottom right. Seems logical to me.


Unfortunately, most of our frames are double slots which becomes a nightmare when there are more than 2 days worth of mail because you often end up going back on yourself or missing calls. The best duties to prep in our office are the rural duties with nice big single slots.

[LouBarlow]

Yet more proof that there is little consistency across the operation.

This is exactly why the company is in such a mess.Job one to fix it, should be to look at how well run, efficient, successful offices are doing it, and apply their methods across the entire country.

[scotchy1962]

Without quoting all the above post what's this about fittings starting at the bottom left ?
Every one I've seen starts top left.

Every single frame I encountered started at the bottom left. Across multiple DOs.

I hate to tell you this, my frame starts top left and the rest of the duties in my office do as well... but i used to work in a bigger office and they all started bottom left so it obviously varies across delivery.
There you go mystery solved, all we need is one who starts in the middle now.

[PDAHappy]

Sadly any attempt at consistency will be torpedoed early on by OPG’s unwilling to make changes to “their” frames and COM’s not having the bandwidth or interest to deal with it.I have even seen an “special” IPS set up with a different layout to others in the DO for a FT who couldn’t cope with changes made post revision.

[clashcityrocker]

Every one I've ever seen starts at the top left, as one would read in a book: left to right, top to bottom.

But when I read a newspaper I always start at the back with the sports pages - so my frame runs from right to left.
Sometimes I like to start at the top of the page with the headlines (Haaland hat trick sinks Hatters) or the cartoon at the bottom.

If anyone questions it I just tell them Arabic is my first language.

[yellowbelly]

I used tubs under the frame, putting a P739 card in the slot to remind me that I had a packet. To begin with I labeled the tubs with the roads that went in each one, but after a while you remember which is which. Good luck in the job

That's the first time I've heard of putting a 739 in as a reminder, why not just turn a letter or put a big P on one to remind you? There must be loads of 739s in your fitting?

I can never understand why any postie still needs reminders when we now have so many packets/parcels, it's not like you can walk past a few properties before you have to deliver one.

Depends how well the postie doing the route knows it doesn't it. I have a loop where the numbers are illogically arranged and a couple of odd houses where the DP is not on the road of the address, they're round the 'back' of the house on a differently named road - and it wasn't the householders who changed the DP location, it was how the developer built it.

[yellowbelly]

I used tubs under the frame, putting a P739 card in the slot to remind me that I had a packet. To begin with I labeled the tubs with the roads that went in each one, but after a while you remember which is which. Good luck in the job

We get bollocked for doing that. Too many blank p739s get delivered with the letters and cause customers to chase up their parcels that don’t exist.

Double bollocking then for the postie also not flicking through the mail at the DP?

[Mr Rush]

Yet more proof that there is little consistency across the operation.

This is exactly why the company is in such a mess.Job one to fix it, should be to look at how well run, efficient, successful offices are doing it, and apply their methods across the entire country.

This is why I asked if anyone had the documents for RM2000 (union website links are all dead, quelle surprise) - it was introduced in the mid 90s to standardise and organise delivery routes. It seems strange that this aspect of arranging a frame would be undefined, though maybe in some areas it was a carryover from how they utilised the old 48-box frames. I can't believe this is only coming up now. I'd love to see this mapped.

[Basildon Bond]

This is why I asked if anyone had the documents for RM2000 ...

I found this...

https://www.cwu.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... ent-1..pdf

RM2000-Preparation-Guide-v1-4-Attachment-1..pdf