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How do you sort your packets into the frame?

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2chorizon
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How do you sort your packets into the frame?

Post by 2chorizon »

I have been doing some prep work for deliveries, and have picked up the letter sorting into the frame quite well (the CSS sequencing really helps, if im lucky enough to get enough trays of sequenced and not just walk sort)
But i also get about 4/5 bags of packets per shift dropped off at my frame, i'm just wondering if any of you pro's have any tips on how to sort them to go with the frame?

I notice there are 2 levels of shelving above the letter frame, is this where you are supposed to put the packets? I have seen some frames like that stuffed with packets on these shelves but with 4/5 bags i don't think i could fit them all up there.
Is there a better way to do it?

Thanks in advance :thumbup
Last edited by 2chorizon on 07 Dec 2023, 05:53, edited 1 time in total.
Haditup
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Re: How do you sort your packets at the frame?

Post by Haditup »

Unfortunately the system is %#£&@d and outdated, the frames were designed before the year 2000 when walks had max 10 small packets per day and big stuff given to a driving duty.
Place your packets in walk order on the shelves above and also use trays placed under the frame.
Not exactly good Health and Safety practices but that’s the way most people prep packets.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

Post by SpacePhoenix »

2chorizon wrote:
07 Dec 2023, 05:00
I have been doing some prep work for deliveries, and have picked up the letter sorting into the frame quite well (the CSS sequencing really helps, if im lucky enough to get enough trays of sequenced and not just walk sort)
But i also get about 4/5 bags of packets per shift dropped off at my frame, i'm just wondering if any of you pro's have any tips on how to sort them to go with the frame?

I notice there are 2 levels of shelving above the letter frame, is this where you are supposed to put the packets? I have seen some frames like that stuffed with packets on these shelves but with 4/5 bags i don't think i could fit them all up there.
Is there a better way to do it?

Thanks in advance :thumbup
The CSSs have been generating a fair bit of walk sort. Normally there's only 2 or 3 letters between the yellow and blue cards, this week sometimes there's been thick wads of letters between them
eggraidonmojo
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

Post by eggraidonmojo »

Most people put their packets up on top of the frame in the order of loops, roads or sectors.

Since there is really not enough room on the frame, I sometimes put packets in boxes below the frame, also in loops and as much as I can I put them below the corresponding loop.

For example, loop 1 is top left above the frame, loop 2 is bottom left below the frame; loop 3, is inside left above, loop 4 is inside left below, and so on.

Large packets are often just sorted straight into the van.

Once you know a frame it's easy to develop your own 'system'.

Sometimes people replace boxes with bags, and basically sort directly to the loop bag they're gonna use.
max49
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

Post by max49 »

I used tubs under the frame, putting a P739 card in the slot to remind me that I had a packet. To begin with I labeled the tubs with the roads that went in each one, but after a while you remember which is which. Good luck in the job
scoobydo79
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

Post by scoobydo79 »

I like to put small stuff into the slots. Slightly bigger I will wedge into the frame and bigger stuff I load directly into the appropriate pouch.
HarrySutton
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

Post by HarrySutton »

I used to turn the letters to show a parcel is coming up, but pointless now as letters are left in frames
postslippete
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

Post by postslippete »

The areas on top are supposed to be for packets but because some of the extended loops have too many packets on them they end up being stashed in trays at the bottom with the parcels larger than shoeboxes on Yorks
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LouBarlow
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

Post by LouBarlow »

I think it will depend on if you do a rural or a town delivery. For my town, I use the overhead shelf space and arrange by loops, but if I get too many to fit in two pouches then I start pulling them out as oversize packets and keeping a separate list for those. If you don’t use a trolley on delivery and need to get them in one pouch, then I would have no clue, but we still have people here who don’t use them.
richj2009
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

Post by richj2009 »

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ted_e_bear
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

Post by ted_e_bear »

LouBarlow wrote:
07 Dec 2023, 17:35
I think it will depend on if you do a rural or a town delivery. For my town, I use the overhead shelf space and arrange by loops, but if I get too many to fit in two pouches then I start pulling them out as oversize packets and keeping a separate list for those. If you don’t use a trolley on delivery and need to get them in one pouch, then I would have no clue, but we still have people here who don’t use them.
Yeah it's great if you're on a rural, I occasionally get put on some of ours, by the nature of it there'll be considerably less calls, you can just pile the large up and load them in the van in order no need for a list or marking.
mjd24
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

Post by mjd24 »

scoobydo79 wrote:
07 Dec 2023, 15:36
I like to put small stuff into the slots. Slightly bigger I will wedge into the frame and bigger stuff I load directly into the appropriate pouch.
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kazardaimenu
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

Post by kazardaimenu »

Right now it’s just the small stuff and bits you know there’s a good chance of getting rid of that go above. Everything else gets shoved on a York for the agency staff to clear.
TopperGas
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

Post by TopperGas »

ted_e_bear wrote:
07 Dec 2023, 18:15
LouBarlow wrote:
07 Dec 2023, 17:35
I think it will depend on if you do a rural or a town delivery. For my town, I use the overhead shelf space and arrange by loops, but if I get too many to fit in two pouches then I start pulling them out as oversize packets and keeping a separate list for those. If you don’t use a trolley on delivery and need to get them in one pouch, then I would have no clue, but we still have people here who don’t use them.
Yeah it's great if you're on a rural, I occasionally get put on some of ours, by the nature of it there'll be considerably less calls, you can just pile the large up and load them in the van in order no need for a list or marking.
We've been getting over 100 Tracked recently on rural duties, there's no way you can just load them all into the van, you have to sort the parcels into the order you intend delivering them and put the smaller items into trays, either straight into trays on your frame or sort them on top of the frame before putting them into trays.

I put small items, up to the NHS test kit sixe, into the frame but some posties put them all into trays.
ted_e_bear
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

Post by ted_e_bear »

TopperGas wrote:
07 Dec 2023, 20:33
ted_e_bear wrote:
07 Dec 2023, 18:15
LouBarlow wrote:
07 Dec 2023, 17:35
I think it will depend on if you do a rural or a town delivery. For my town, I use the overhead shelf space and arrange by loops, but if I get too many to fit in two pouches then I start pulling them out as oversize packets and keeping a separate list for those. If you don’t use a trolley on delivery and need to get them in one pouch, then I would have no clue, but we still have people here who don’t use them.
Yeah it's great if you're on a rural, I occasionally get put on some of ours, by the nature of it there'll be considerably less calls, you can just pile the large up and load them in the van in order no need for a list or marking.
We've been getting over 100 Tracked recently on rural duties, there's no way you can just load them all into the van, you have to sort the parcels into the order you intend delivering them and put the smaller items into trays, either straight into trays on your frame or sort them on top of the frame before putting them into trays.

I put small items, up to the NHS test kit sixe, into the frame but some posties put them all into trays.
By large I meant the large items that don't fit in the frame or in trays, I do the same as you describe for everything else that does.