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USO...lies.

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smok3y666
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Re: USO...lies.

Post by smok3y666 »

Where is this plastered all over social media? Other than here i've not seen anything about these rumours.
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Re: USO...lies.

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Wondering why people are assuming this means a Monday to Friday week, more likely they will keep you working Saturdays and move as many people as contracts will allow onto Sundays.
I'm turning purple!
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Re: USO...lies.

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TopperGas wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 19:48
daveyeff wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 10:53
Well, the union got us downstairs this morning, rep says..."dont shoot the messanger" its to update us on the rumours circulating on social media....the RM board are in serious talks with our leaders at this very time...RM say that come October they are scrapping the USO regardless of what the government/parliament says because if it does not happen they will RUN OUT OF MONEY by then...there is no option...no other alternative...it HAS to happen...all days off and Sunday working will cease until its all confirmed. ....it wasnt the reps fault he was telling us what he had been told to tell us....as usual it got the response it desrved....total crap....but it shows they are just going to do what they want anyway.....the regulator ofcom are toothless.
Has this message been said generally across RM DO's or is this one maverick union rep making it all up? If RM do intend scrapping the USO could the Government withdraw it from RM and find another supplier, should one be prepared to take it on?

If there is any truth in the rumours perhaps that explains why RM have been so reluctant to replace leavers, particularly FT'ers, I'm fairly certain in my DO there wouldn't be any need for redundancies if we moved to Mon-Fri deliveries as we're around 10 to 20% under staffed already.
Agree nobody else seems to have been informed by the cwu.
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Re: USO...lies.

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Foxel wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 20:04
Wondering why people are assuming this means a Monday to Friday week, more likely they will keep you working Saturdays and move as many people as contracts will allow onto Sundays.
Because Royal Mail have said multiple times.
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Re: USO...lies.

Post by dazzler123 »

LouBarlow wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 19:29
The corrupt government running the country, would not want to be associated with the demise of Royal Mail. Whether it is true or not, if RM turn around and say that they only way to save the company, is by ditching the USO, I think they will agree to it.
i would think with the amount of scandal they have to deal with on a daily basis, royal mail letters are probaby low down the list of worries. So yeah, RM know they can do what they like
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Re: USO...lies.

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aiden01 wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 20:05
TopperGas wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 19:48
daveyeff wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 10:53
Well, the union got us downstairs this morning, rep says..."dont shoot the messanger" its to update us on the rumours circulating on social media....the RM board are in serious talks with our leaders at this very time...RM say that come October they are scrapping the USO regardless of what the government/parliament says because if it does not happen they will RUN OUT OF MONEY by then...there is no option...no other alternative...it HAS to happen...all days off and Sunday working will cease until its all confirmed. ....it wasnt the reps fault he was telling us what he had been told to tell us....as usual it got the response it desrved....total crap....but it shows they are just going to do what they want anyway.....the regulator ofcom are toothless.
Has this message been said generally across RM DO's or is this one maverick union rep making it all up? If RM do intend scrapping the USO could the Government withdraw it from RM and find another supplier, should one be prepared to take it on?

If there is any truth in the rumours perhaps that explains why RM have been so reluctant to replace leavers, particularly FT'ers, I'm fairly certain in my DO there wouldn't be any need for redundancies if we moved to Mon-Fri deliveries as we're around 10 to 20% under staffed already.
Agree nobody else seems to have been informed by the cwu.
I posted a couple of days ago about rm wanting a temporary USO in blue shirts after seeing an email sent to reps
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Re: USO...lies.

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scotchy1962 wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 18:56
Yet again more doom and gloom, or if you look at it positively a chance to work less weekends and for some of us to maybe get a pay off and retire.
We all know the future for RM is going to be nothing like the past, no point in harking back to the halcyon days of job and finish, 1st and 2nd delivery and adhering to the USO.
All these things are gone never to return and no matter who's in power they won't allow anything to change in favour of posties.
I was thinking it's probably only a matter of time before you will not be known as posties anymore under pain of death and will just be known as a delivery person or just No 278421.
Union won't exist and some company appointed committee will make any calls on pay and workload with every toady getting a place on said committee and the walks will be enormous.
George Orwell knew what was coming.
Just roll over and have your tummy tickled provided it suits you :roll:
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Re: USO...lies.

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aiden01 wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 20:05
TopperGas wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 19:48
daveyeff wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 10:53
Well, the union got us downstairs this morning, rep says..."dont shoot the messanger" its to update us on the rumours circulating on social media....the RM board are in serious talks with our leaders at this very time...RM say that come October they are scrapping the USO regardless of what the government/parliament says because if it does not happen they will RUN OUT OF MONEY by then...there is no option...no other alternative...it HAS to happen...all days off and Sunday working will cease until its all confirmed. ....it wasnt the reps fault he was telling us what he had been told to tell us....as usual it got the response it desrved....total crap....but it shows they are just going to do what they want anyway.....the regulator ofcom are toothless.
Has this message been said generally across RM DO's or is this one maverick union rep making it all up? If RM do intend scrapping the USO could the Government withdraw it from RM and find another supplier, should one be prepared to take it on?

If there is any truth in the rumours perhaps that explains why RM have been so reluctant to replace leavers, particularly FT'ers, I'm fairly certain in my DO there wouldn't be any need for redundancies if we moved to Mon-Fri deliveries as we're around 10 to 20% under staffed already.
Agree nobody else seems to have been informed by the cwu.
It does indeed seem very odd, given that our Com/Dom has put a sheet of names he wants downstairs to discuss "seasonal working hours" over the coming weeks/months. Why bother if we are going to run out of money and potentially go bust? ...the plot thickens.
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Re: USO...lies.

Post by Foxel »

Pidleypoo wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 20:39
Foxel wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 20:04
Wondering why people are assuming this means a Monday to Friday week, more likely they will keep you working Saturdays and move as many people as contracts will allow onto Sundays.
Because Royal Mail have said multiple times.
Have they? Why would they tell their workers they will be working Monday to Friday, when they need them to work Saturday and Sunday (Increasingly)?

They have said they want to go to a 5 day USO mon-fri, but they have never been allowed to say they will. And that doesn't automatically equate to the desired shift patterns.

Then of course who is stupid enough to believe anything they say anyway.
I'm turning purple!
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Post by olilew »

Foxel wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 20:04
Wondering why people are assuming this means a Monday to Friday week, more likely they will keep you working Saturdays and move as many people as contracts will allow onto Sundays.
Correct! Everybody assumes they will be going Monday to Friday. This will certainly NOT be the case!
"Just take it out and see how you go......."
milly
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Re: USO...lies.

Post by milly »

CRIBMAD wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 16:40
jbo5066 wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 14:17
Also, if they are going to run out of money by October, where are the lump sums coming from??
LMAO what lump sums ? they have played all you yes voters , stitched you up like kippers ! now sit back and enjoy the ride !
Still seething I see :cuppa
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I’ve heard this morning that all offices up and down the country will be told about scrapping the uso
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Ricgarrett wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 22:28
I’ve heard this morning that all offices up and down the country will be told about scrapping the uso
So if you heard this morning when is it becoming offical.
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Re: USO...lies.

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milly wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 22:27
CRIBMAD wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 16:40
jbo5066 wrote:
16 Aug 2023, 14:17
Also, if they are going to run out of money by October, where are the lump sums coming from??
LMAO what lump sums ? they have played all you yes voters , stitched you up like kippers ! now sit back and enjoy the ride !
Still seething I see :cuppa
Somethings never change surprised hes still in the job.
Clappedoutpostie
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Re: USO...lies.

Post by Clappedoutpostie »

Why is your rep standing up and saying this. If there’s any truth to it your manager should be giving the speech.