Managerial illegal activity

[SMS1969]

Commit to deliver would need a complete change of contract surely? It couldn’t be done as things stand, especially with the bigger duties coming in. They can’t force you to work longer than your contracted hours.

[ashmeister77]

Commit to deliver won’t happen. Can’t understand why people are staying its coming in

[Nickvilla20]

The only was you get commit to deliver is if you have owner drivers. If you’re on contracted set hours it can’t be enforced. I doubt Royal Mail are to bothered about us delivering everything anyway.

[LouBarlow]

Commit to deliver won’t happen. Can’t understand why people are staying its coming in

You know why. There still exists a small cabal of members here who only post made up nonsense to incite anti union sentiment.

[guardianangel]

Commit to deliver won’t happen. Can’t understand why people are staying its coming in

You know why. There still exists a small cabal of members here who only post made up nonsense to incite anti union sentiment.

Who would of thought this time last year ,it was an inflation pay rise,and we would of never ever believed the union would of given away sick pay and IHR ,i have a few friends in other unions who were flabbergasted what the CWU gave up without a fight ,and that's not anti union sentiment thats fact,just because members dont pedal the union rhetoric doesn't mean they speak nonsense.

[aiden01]

Commit to deliver won’t happen. Can’t understand why people are staying its coming in

You know why. There still exists a small cabal of members here who only post made up nonsense to incite anti union sentiment.

Who would of thought this time last year ,it was an inflation pay rise,and we would of never ever believed the union would of given away sick pay and IHR ,i have a few friends in other unions who were flabbergasted what the CWU gave up without a fight ,and that's not anti union sentiment thats fact,just because members dont pedal the union rhetoric doesn't mean they speak nonsense.

So the 18 days of strike was'nt putting up a fight fs come on behave.

[guardianangel]

Commit to deliver won’t happen. Can’t understand why people are staying its coming in

You know why. There still exists a small cabal of members here who only post made up nonsense to incite anti union sentiment.

Who would of thought this time last year ,it was an inflation pay rise,and we would of never ever believed the union would of given away sick pay and IHR ,i have a few friends in other unions who were flabbergasted what the CWU gave up without a fight ,and that's not anti union sentiment thats fact,just because members dont pedal the union rhetoric doesn't mean they speak nonsense.

So the 18 days of strike was'nt putting up a fight fs come on behave.

But we never had an agreement to vote on and when we had a chance to vote on a poor one we buckled unlike the train workers who carry on the fight,in my world that makes us weak and we will reap all that we sowed,we got to round 5 took a hook and bottled it ,it might be a fight in your world but i go the full 12.

[aiden01]

Commit to deliver won’t happen. Can’t understand why people are staying its coming in

You know why. There still exists a small cabal of members here who only post made up nonsense to incite anti union sentiment.

Who would of thought this time last year ,it was an inflation pay rise,and we would of never ever believed the union would of given away sick pay and IHR ,i have a few friends in other unions who were flabbergasted what the CWU gave up without a fight ,and that's not anti union sentiment thats fact,just because members dont pedal the union rhetoric doesn't mean they speak nonsense.

So the 18 days of strike was'nt putting up a fight fs come on behave.

But we never had an agreement to vote on and when we had a chance to vote on a poor one we buckled unlike the train workers who carry on the fight,in my world that makes us weak and we will reap all that we sowed,we got to round 5 took a hook and bottled it ,it might be a fight in your world but i go the full 12.

Well we got an agreement in the end an the majority voted yes. so what is the problem i couldnt honestly care what other people get i fight for my own job.maybe like you said in the past you could go 12 but reality kicks in an people cant afford to pay their bills so what did you propose apart from no maybe you didnt say it. But lets bring the place down was the opinion of quite few on here.are same posters still in cwu.

[LouBarlow]

Commit to deliver won’t happen. Can’t understand why people are staying its coming in

You know why. There still exists a small cabal of members here who only post made up nonsense to incite anti union sentiment.

Who would of thought this time last year ,it was an inflation pay rise,and we would of never ever believed the union would of given away sick pay and IHR ,i have a few friends in other unions who were flabbergasted what the CWU gave up without a fight ,and that's not anti union sentiment thats fact,just because members dont pedal the union rhetoric doesn't mean they speak nonsense.

So the 18 days of strike was'nt putting up a fight fs come on behave.

But we never had an agreement to vote on and when we had a chance to vote on a poor one we buckled unlike the train workers who carry on the fight,in my world that makes us weak and we will reap all that we sowed,we got to round 5 took a hook and bottled it ,it might be a fight in your world but i go the full 12.

The train workers have leverage, we don’t. We work for a privatised, profit-obsessed company that is failing. As to lack of fight, I seem to recall industrial action lasting nigh on a year, and a new strike mandate being voted for before the agreement was drawn up. The reason we have a pay-rise at all is because of this fight. T&C changes were coming no matter how much money we lost because of striking.

[Nickvilla20]

The railways do have leverage but even they are holding off inevitable change. It also seems their dispute has shifted from pay to ticket office closures it sounds like the dispute is going to way ours did.

[guardianangel]

Commit to deliver won’t happen. Can’t understand why people are staying its coming in

You know why. There still exists a small cabal of members here who only post made up nonsense to incite anti union sentiment.

Who would of thought this time last year ,it was an inflation pay rise,and we would of never ever believed the union would of given away sick pay and IHR ,i have a few friends in other unions who were flabbergasted what the CWU gave up without a fight ,and that's not anti union sentiment thats fact,just because members dont pedal the union rhetoric doesn't mean they speak nonsense.

So the 18 days of strike was'nt putting up a fight fs come on behave.

But we never had an agreement to vote on and when we had a chance to vote on a poor one we buckled unlike the train workers who carry on the fight,in my world that makes us weak and we will reap all that we sowed,we got to round 5 took a hook and bottled it ,it might be a fight in your world but i go the full 12.

The train workers have leverage, we don’t. We work for a privatised, profit-obsessed company that is failing. As to lack of fight, I seem to recall industrial action lasting nigh on a year, and a new strike mandate being voted for before the agreement was drawn up. The reason we have a pay-rise at all is because of this fight. T&C changes were coming no matter how much money we lost because of striking.

Keep telling yourself that ,one thing is for sure because of the yes vote we will never find out where it could of gone ,one thing is for sure with the yes vote we know we are heading for a downgrading of a job with lower pay and conditions and that is the facts sadly. So the yes voters might keep tapping themselves on the back that the union have got the best deal but in my opinion we have got the worst.

[LouBarlow]

Commit to deliver won’t happen. Can’t understand why people are staying its coming in

You know why. There still exists a small cabal of members here who only post made up nonsense to incite anti union sentiment.

Who would of thought this time last year ,it was an inflation pay rise,and we would of never ever believed the union would of given away sick pay and IHR ,i have a few friends in other unions who were flabbergasted what the CWU gave up without a fight ,and that's not anti union sentiment thats fact,just because members dont pedal the union rhetoric doesn't mean they speak nonsense.

So the 18 days of strike was'nt putting up a fight fs come on behave.

But we never had an agreement to vote on and when we had a chance to vote on a poor one we buckled unlike the train workers who carry on the fight,in my world that makes us weak and we will reap all that we sowed,we got to round 5 took a hook and bottled it ,it might be a fight in your world but i go the full 12.

The train workers have leverage, we don’t. We work for a privatised, profit-obsessed company that is failing. As to lack of fight, I seem to recall industrial action lasting nigh on a year, and a new strike mandate being voted for before the agreement was drawn up. The reason we have a pay-rise at all is because of this fight. T&C changes were coming no matter how much money we lost because of striking.

Keep telling yourself that ,one thing is for sure because of the yes vote we will never find out where it could of gone ,one thing is for sure with the yes vote we know we are heading for a downgrading of a job with lower pay and conditions and that is the facts sadly. So the yes voters might keep tapping themselves on the back that the union have got the best deal but in my opinion we have got the worst.

Just as you can keep telling yourself that there was some kind of master stroke of negotiation that neither the union or RM were privy to, but you are, that could have turned around a failing company while benefiting us workers at the same time. It easy to shout ‘fight!’ when you have no idea of a solution. Unless you can tell us how you would have handled it of course? Be the first on here to answer this question.

[scotchy1962]

The vote is over, yes won the day, democracy in action.
Time to move on people and try to deal with whats in front of us, you are only giving ammunition to certain individuals who enjoy to try to beat you with the "NO" stick.
It is also working the other way too and the "YES" voters get it in the neck.
I would hope we are all adults and could just stick to the subject at hand, going round in circles all the time is becoming boring.
We have enough on our plate going forward without the pettiness of some people.

[thefox]

The vote is over, yes won the day, democracy in action.
Time to move on people and try to deal with whats in front of us, you are only giving ammunition to certain individuals who enjoy to try to beat you with the "NO" stick.
It is also working the other way too and the "YES" voters get it in the neck.
I would hope we are all adults and could just stick to the subject at hand, going round in circles all the time is becoming boring.
We have enough on our plate going forward without the pettiness of some people.

Excellent post,well said.

[guardianangel]

The vote is over, yes won the day, democracy in action.
Time to move on people and try to deal with whats in front of us, you are only giving ammunition to certain individuals who enjoy to try to beat you with the "NO" stick.
It is also working the other way too and the "YES" voters get it in the neck.
I would hope we are all adults and could just stick to the subject at hand, going round in circles all the time is becoming boring.
We have enough on our plate going forward without the pettiness of some people.

Excellent post,well said.

You cant move on when the agreement was broken on the first day,this topic was about the illegal activity of managers but slowly progressed to the nasty,moaning, selfish and guilty side of some yes voters who troll this site,not all as some who voted yes in our office had their own reasons but were still worried about the outcome ,what does amaze me is the people who post on here are amazed and surprised on whats coming their way,you really couldn't make it up.