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Agree with Jemima some industries that have seen collapse, particularly the car industry which ultimately folded because workers out-priced themselves. Its just as easy to have a bad experience of unions as good. Depends in what industry and under what circumstances. Mind you, can't think of that many strikes where there have ever been any real winners but unions have helped shape working conditions.
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Night Tonic wrote:Agree with Jemima some industries that have seen collapse, particularly the car industry which ultimately folded because workers out-priced themselves. Its just as easy to have a bad experience of unions as good. Depends in what industry and under what circumstances. Mind you, can't think of that many strikes where there have ever been any real winners but unions have helped shape working conditions.
That last sentence confused me slightly as I agree with you there have not been many strikes where the workers got everything they asked for, as in most situations both sides compromise and therefore by definition there are no winners. But then you point out where Unions and therefore strikes may have helped. The reason I am confused is I agree with both statements but they don't sit well together.

1 strike that did get what it wanted imho was the recent series of Burslem strikes, although the fight for justice continues, the Union got them a fair decision with independent review of the sackings/suspensions being allowed, and their DOM being moved sideways.
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Night Tonic wrote:Agree with Jemima some industries that have seen collapse, particularly the car industry which ultimately folded because workers out-priced themselves. Its just as easy to have a bad experience of unions as good. Depends in what industry and under what circumstances. Mind you, can't think of that many strikes where there have ever been any real winners but unions have helped shape working conditions.
Maggie Brown ,all those health problems an you can still type.Oh sorry my mistake NT,, still it's understandable how I got it wrong ,just read the post not the author.
"sad man" ,want me to do the PM's in the open? Remember the quote? You ain't on our side are you quizling
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BB brother wrote:Canttypeandshouts....

You havnt got a clue what your talking about.
As someone says I think he does - he always seems to want someone to bite that's why he writes in a style that seems to be designed to get peoples backs up or belittle unions and union members. He will get bored eventually if we ignore him. Its difficult as a Moderator and we have both given him the oxygen of publicity by referring to him, but I will no longer respond to any of his posts as he is disrespectful both to me and other members. Well that's my opinion for what it counts for, and no I wont respond to him if he quotes this post.
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Guys,lets not go down the 'scab' route difference of opinion or even total bullshit doesn't constitute someone being a 'scab'.
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cantypeANDSHOUTS wrote:
BELIAL wrote:
Night Tonic wrote:Agree with Jemima some industries that have seen collapse, particularly the car industry which ultimately folded because workers out-priced themselves. Its just as easy to have a bad experience of unions as good. Depends in what industry and under what circumstances. Mind you, can't think of that many strikes where there have ever been any real winners but unions have helped shape working conditions.
Maggie Brown ,all those health problems an you can still type.Oh sorry my mistake NT,, still it's understandable how I got it wrong ,just read the post not the author.
"sad man" ,want me to do the PM's in the open? Remember the quote? You ain't on our side are you quizling
See it's strike breakers re united night tonight ,they keep trying don't they .
Shame on you. Sleep well hope your guilt does'nt trouble you to much,nah it won't will it ,low as low can get

well i wont quote you tbt..why should i with inflammatory posts like this...and yet you do nothing
.were all strike breakers if we dont conform to belial's point of view.not that he really knows what a scab means..
that's unions for you .they suck up all the dredges of society and say dont go thieving ,you dont need to work to hard we'll do it for you with legalised terrorism .give us 6million or the puppy gets it..do this or this will happen.the fanatics on this site keep say i should give back my pay rises and perks cos im a non union member yet if they vote (without me )to strike im expected to tow their line or the bricks will be coming though my windows ....double standards for all

now im not aloud to follow tbt's lackies use of insults (see most above)so i shall be calm..

this is simply my opinion ,ive no axe to grind.if you need to insult people because you have no argument then whom is the lowest of the low.
you dont need to respond to my posts it not complosery.but my opinion is as good as everyones
which is more than can be said for your spelling - or are the typos because your attention induced, sexually aroused state make it difficult to hit the keys with only one hand free ? I hope this reply helped you get there, you sad prat.
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cantypeANDSHOUTS wrote:
BELIAL wrote:
Night Tonic wrote:Agree with Jemima some industries that have seen collapse, particularly the car industry which ultimately folded because workers out-priced themselves. Its just as easy to have a bad experience of unions as good. Depends in what industry and under what circumstances. Mind you, can't think of that many strikes where there have ever been any real winners but unions have helped shape working conditions.
Maggie Brown ,all those health problems an you can still type.Oh sorry my mistake NT,, still it's understandable how I got it wrong ,just read the post not the author.
"sad man" ,want me to do the PM's in the open? Remember the quote? You ain't on our side are you quizling
See it's strike breakers re united night tonight ,they keep trying don't they .
Shame on you. Sleep well hope your guilt does'nt trouble you to much,nah it won't will it ,low as low can get

well i wont quote you tbt..why should i with inflammatory posts like this...and yet you do nothing
.were all strike breakers if we dont conform to belial's point of view.not that he really knows what a scab means..
that's unions for you .they suck up all the dredges of society and say dont go thieving ,you dont need to work to hard we'll do it for you with legalised terrorism .give us 6million or the puppy gets it..do this or this will happen.the fanatics on this site keep say i should give back my pay rises and perks cos im a non union member yet if they vote (without me )to strike im expected to tow their line or the bricks will be coming though my windows ....double standards for all

now im not aloud to follow tbt's lackies use of insults (see most above)so i shall be calm..

this is simply my opinion ,ive no axe to grind.if you need to insult people because you have no argument then whom is the lowest of the low.
you dont need to respond to my posts it not complosery.but my opinion is as good as everyones
I've said this a couple of posts ago.....
POSTMAN wrote:Guys,lets not go down the 'scab' route difference of opinion or even total bullshit doesn't constitute someone being a 'scab'.


I'd like to think people will take heed,as tbh it bores me and is out of order when people of a different opinion come on and are immediately labeled 'scab'.
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Re: Oh Dear !

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cantypeANDSHOUTS wrote:
BB brother wrote:Canttypeandshouts....

You havnt got a clue what your talking about.
well thank you for your keen analysis .im sure your smart enough for the both of us :cuppa wow im so nice

Thats a very witty riposte CTAS , an even better one would be proving me wrong.
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Very witty again CTAS !

Still havnt proved me wrong though !!
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Well, well, if nothing else Belial and his bed-buddy IWW meet the grade in respect of Hellfail's legendary 'Socialist Cyber-Babble' article. How true that rings now. No wonder we're all fooked with this kind of twaddle. Come on Allan - bring in the bulldozers while our backs are turned.
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Locked this,and i don't like locking threads as a rule,but the original thread was started by a pratt,canttype you're quoteing a post that was originally made in october,you're obviously looking for a row and you're becoming boring,and no doubt this will all kick off again.
Some of you are getting boring as well as you seem to be chasing each other and spoiling threads for others ffs.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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