LTB 194/23 - Royal Mail's Customer Service Points (CSP) - Further Advice to Branches and Members

[Duesouth]

Closing the CSP to a bare minimum is suicidal for the business. If RM actually looked at the data properly in each office then I am sure many customer's would still use the CSP. For every CSP to only open in the morning for two hours nationwide is mad. There is no infrastructure in place for the customer to guarantee that they get there parcel on the day or even the next day. I have had redeliveries and the customer still wasn't even in even going round twice at different times made no difference, leaving it with a neighbour adds more time and half the time there not in or don't want to take the parcel.

The company have made it more difficult for the customer and us to try and get rid of the parcel first time around. Its ok if you deliver in an area where you have plenty of safeplace's like the shed or greenhouse but every neighbourhood is not the same.

If RM wants us to be like Amazon or Evri by leaving every parcel on the door step then that is the message there trying to bring across to us.

[LouBarlow]

A no vote sends a message that we are not happy and can see the bigger picture. A yes vote is a submissive vote that allows runners and their ilk to continue on as they hve been with heads buried in the sand. you obviously have things too cushy or just dnt give a f**k about those around u. Over the past 18 months you have been click bait at best, I have been paying attention.

Sending a message with the goal of achieving what exactly? If you think more strike action was coming you are deluded. Neither side of the dispute wanted it, which is why we have the compromised agreement that the vast majority agreed to. Did the money offered help? Yep, it sure did, because most people go to work to earn money, funnily enough.

I’m sick of the bitterness of the no voters who thought they were in a majority. You lost. Get over it. Suck it up or f**k off and get another job.

Missing the point as usual with the I’m alright Jack attitude. People will really struggle going forward with this filthy sellout but yes sure suck it up, do the extra hours lose money being off sick come in and clear up the shite left by part timers doing full time duties, listen to the complaints about casual staff cos u have a uniform and must seem like u give 2 f***s

Yet again you fail to answer the question. What difference to any of this would a no vote have achieved? You would still be getting screwed over. Things were not going to stay the same with a no vote. Change was coming. Get this through your head.

The company isn’t looking at the micro only the macro, what a yes vote does or has done is simply “yes this sounds great let’s head down this road” which they gleefully will. Stand up for something or fall for everything

How much standing up do I have to do? I’ve been supportive for nigh on a year now, voted in favour of strike action with the last ballot, but eventually you lose more than you can ever gain back, and I have a family to house and feed as do I’m sure, a lot of us. Voting no would not have lead to these changes suddenly being shelved. They would still have been brought in, and RM had already announced dates for changes to the sickness process, before the agreement was ever announced. A no vote wouldn’t have led to more industrial action either, as neither RM, the CWU or all but the most militant on here, wanted it.

[heraldmoth]

A no vote sends a message that we are not happy and can see the bigger picture. A yes vote is a submissive vote that allows runners and their ilk to continue on as they hve been with heads buried in the sand. you obviously have things too cushy or just dnt give a f**k about those around u. Over the past 18 months you have been click bait at best, I have been paying attention.

Sending a message with the goal of achieving what exactly? If you think more strike action was coming you are deluded. Neither side of the dispute wanted it, which is why we have the compromised agreement that the vast majority agreed to. Did the money offered help? Yep, it sure did, because most people go to work to earn money, funnily enough.

I’m sick of the bitterness of the no voters who thought they were in a majority. You lost. Get over it. Suck it up or f**k off and get another job.

Missing the point as usual with the I’m alright Jack attitude. People will really struggle going forward with this filthy sellout but yes sure suck it up, do the extra hours lose money being off sick come in and clear up the shite left by part timers doing full time duties, listen to the complaints about casual staff cos u have a uniform and must seem like u give 2 f***s

Yet again you fail to answer the question. What difference to any of this would a no vote have achieved? You would still be getting screwed over. Things were not going to stay the same with a no vote. Change was coming. Get this through your head.

The company isn’t looking at the micro only the macro, what a yes vote does or has done is simply “yes this sounds great let’s head down this road” which they gleefully will. Stand up for something or fall for everything

How much standing up do I have to do? I’ve been supportive for nigh on a year now, voted in favour of strike action with the last ballot, but eventually you lose more than you can ever gain back, and I have a family to house and feed as do I’m sure, a lot of us. Voting no would not have lead to these changes suddenly being shelved. They would still have been brought in, and RM had already announced dates for changes to the sickness process, before the agreement was ever announced. A no vote wouldn’t have led to more industrial action either, as neither RM, the CWU or all but the most militant on here, wanted it.

Then we agree to differ
Mortgage
Bills
Family
Head in the sand

[LouBarlow]

A no vote sends a message that we are not happy and can see the bigger picture. A yes vote is a submissive vote that allows runners and their ilk to continue on as they hve been with heads buried in the sand. you obviously have things too cushy or just dnt give a f**k about those around u. Over the past 18 months you have been click bait at best, I have been paying attention.

Sending a message with the goal of achieving what exactly? If you think more strike action was coming you are deluded. Neither side of the dispute wanted it, which is why we have the compromised agreement that the vast majority agreed to. Did the money offered help? Yep, it sure did, because most people go to work to earn money, funnily enough.

I’m sick of the bitterness of the no voters who thought they were in a majority. You lost. Get over it. Suck it up or f**k off and get another job.

Missing the point as usual with the I’m alright Jack attitude. People will really struggle going forward with this filthy sellout but yes sure suck it up, do the extra hours lose money being off sick come in and clear up the shite left by part timers doing full time duties, listen to the complaints about casual staff cos u have a uniform and must seem like u give 2 f***s

Yet again you fail to answer the question. What difference to any of this would a no vote have achieved? You would still be getting screwed over. Things were not going to stay the same with a no vote. Change was coming. Get this through your head.

The company isn’t looking at the micro only the macro, what a yes vote does or has done is simply “yes this sounds great let’s head down this road” which they gleefully will. Stand up for something or fall for everything

How much standing up do I have to do? I’ve been supportive for nigh on a year now, voted in favour of strike action with the last ballot, but eventually you lose more than you can ever gain back, and I have a family to house and feed as do I’m sure, a lot of us. Voting no would not have lead to these changes suddenly being shelved. They would still have been brought in, and RM had already announced dates for changes to the sickness process, before the agreement was ever announced. A no vote wouldn’t have led to more industrial action either, as neither RM, the CWU or all but the most militant on here, wanted it.

Then we agree to differ
Mortgage
Bills
Family
Head in the sand

Agreeing to differ is fine, but I have RM, the CWU, the PEC and 75% of union members agreeing with me. It is fine to be contrary though, but I’m not sure you have anything to back up your decision. I understand people being angry with the agreement, but fortunately the protest votes didn’t add up to much.

[SpacePhoenix]

It wasn't 75% of all union members, it was 75% of those who voted, don't know off hand what % of members voted

[Woody Guthrie]

It wasn't 75% of all union members, it was 75% of those who voted, don't know off hand what % of members voted

Since you can't assign non voters to either camp they are statistically irrelevant.
Only those who voted count therefore 75% of members voted yes.

[Jack1960]

Is it possible for Lou "Grant"Barloe to change his moniker to Mr Contrary so i can skip his posts as they have nothing new to say.

[LouBarlow]

Is it possible for Lou "Grant"Barloe to change his moniker to Mr Contrary so i can skip his posts as they have nothing new to say.

There is an ignore function Jock.

[LancePercival]

Its a waste of time Lou, I blocked you 2year and now Woody but people quote you on your drivel and it still shows up


Never mind think I just shut my membership down seeing as the boards very poor now, with you hogging every single subject, doesn't matter what time of day I go on, last post Lou Barlow

[Jack1960]

Its a waste of time Lou, I blocked you 2year and now Woody but people quote you on your drivel and it still shows up


Never mind think I just shut my membership down seeing as the boards very poor now, with you hogging every single subject, doesn't matter what time of day I go on, last post Lou Barlow

Yes well said

[LouBarlow]

Its a waste of time Lou, I blocked you 2year and now Woody but people quote you on your drivel and it still shows up


Never mind think I just shut my membership down seeing as the boards very poor now, with you hogging every single subject, doesn't matter what time of day I go on, last post Lou Barlow

You and your 21 posts will be missed.

[postieblueshirt]

Ah true for me also I had you blocked for a while as well lou but people quote you so it shows up anyway so was a waste of time.

[Woody Guthrie]

You guys do realise you don't actually have to read every post on here.
There should be a pretty good ignore feature built into your brain.
To be honest I think you all just love the drama.

[Jack1960]

Is it possible for Lou "Grant"Barloe to change his moniker to Mr Contrary so i can skip his posts as they have nothing new to say.

There is an ignore function Jock.

Dont get me wrong Lou, you have many good things to say and thats good for healthy debate but its just the unnecessary put downs to people who take a different view.
I voted no, no and no in the three ballots would you like to know why! And i get the Jock reference, i didnt mispell Barlow on purpose! Jack was my dad who died in 1960.

[LouBarlow]

Is it possible for Lou "Grant"Barloe to change his moniker to Mr Contrary so i can skip his posts as they have nothing new to say.

There is an ignore function Jock.

Dont get me wrong Lou, you have many good things to say and thats good for healthy debate but its just the unnecessary put downs to people who take a different view.
I voted no, no and no in the three ballots would you like to know why! And i get the Jock reference, i didnt mispell Barlow on purpose! Jack was my dad who died in 1960.

The only put downs I issue on here, are to people who offer nothing but insults initially, and even then I try and lace my retorts with a hint of humour or lightheartedness. I have thick skin, it will not have any impact on how I use these forums or indeed change my opinions, which contrary to the belief of some of here, are genuine and not some kind of ruse. Believe it or not, we don’t all think the same way of this job and the minutiae surrounding it now.

I’m happy to be proven wrong, but I never sling insults based on differing opinions. When I am called a smug bastard or a half-wit, then sure I might come back with sly digs of my own, but don’t then turn around and threaten to leave the forums because someone dared to stand up to it.

If anything, I am the one being attacked for having a different opinion on certain matters. I look forward to you leaping to my defence the next time it happens.