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Family Friendly Duties

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tmac
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Family Friendly Duties

Post by tmac »

As anyone in there office been told if there is going to be any. I know in our office when the later finishes come in there's going to be some posties worried about picking up there children .
BenacreNick
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Post by BenacreNick »

I asked this on another thread and the reply was that RM are not interested.

There must be thousands of parents facing this situation ?
qwerty2
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Post by qwerty2 »

RM attitude is “if you don’t like it you can leave”
postslippete
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I have been reliably informed that:


Family friendly = come in early, race round, get everything done and clock off early. The COM have got no problems as long as you've done all your work. If you're on a van share with a slowcoach then you probably have to do half their work as well :chuckle
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
miles_peters
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Post by miles_peters »

Are there actually any jobs these days when you'll be home to pick up kids from school?
A2B
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Post by A2B »

postslippete wrote:
17 Jul 2023, 18:58
I have been reliably informed that:


Family friendly = come in early, race round, get everything done and clock off early. The COM have got no problems as long as you've done all your work. If you're on a van share with a slowcoach then you probably have to do half their work as well :chuckle
And when your pay is linked to SISO?
enzio1272
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Post by enzio1272 »

miles_peters wrote:
17 Jul 2023, 19:00
Are there actually any jobs these days when you'll be home to pick up kids from school?
Sadly very few.
But it’s not just parents of children that have issues with the times.
My children are all old ,but i am a career to my mum at the moment my wife looks after her in the morning and I’m there to look after work but now it looking like it will increasingly become more difficult to do so
Stella102
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Post by Stella102 »

Well if you start at 9 am and have a 7 hour duty you will finish at 4 pm. How can you start earlier when there could be no mail in the office until 9am?
postslippete
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A2B wrote:
17 Jul 2023, 19:08
postslippete wrote:
17 Jul 2023, 18:58
I have been reliably informed that:


Family friendly = come in early, race round, get everything done and clock off early. The COM have got no problems as long as you've done all your work. If you're on a van share with a slowcoach then you probably have to do half their work as well :chuckle
And when your pay is linked to SISO?


Then you're screwed. I suppose you could ask to get something in writing. But the way this business is going you will be expected to take your breaks when you pick the kids up, and if you take any longer than your scheduled breaks, you will be expected to work past your scheduled finish time.

Alternatively, you reduce your contractual hours so that you can finish earlier or make your hours up on a weekend.

I'm genuinely interested to see how people adapt to this as the company are determined to push through with what they call 'method change'
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postslippete
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Stella102 wrote:
17 Jul 2023, 19:13
Well if you start at 9 am and have a 7 hour duty you will finish at 4 pm. How can you start earlier when there could be no mail in the office until 9am?

There are often people prepping Door to doors before their time
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Seymour Buts
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Post by Seymour Buts »

A2B wrote:
17 Jul 2023, 19:08
postslippete wrote:
17 Jul 2023, 18:58
I have been reliably informed that:


Family friendly = come in early, race round, get everything done and clock off early. The COM have got no problems as long as you've done all your work. If you're on a van share with a slowcoach then you probably have to do half their work as well :chuckle
And when your pay is linked to SISO?
Nothing, because if it's agreed it'd be alrite. I go off an hour or so early to make the football on a Saturday now and again, and it's fine.

The issue here is that how can there be family friendly duties? You can come in as early as you want, but nothing will start being sorted til 7:30 - 8 o'clock. And the minute one gets a family friendly duty, everybody else is gonna kick off and want one. Gonna be a mess.
Acca Dacca
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Post by Acca Dacca »

Stella102 wrote:
17 Jul 2023, 19:13
Well if you start at 9 am and have a 7 hour duty you will finish at 4 pm. How can you start earlier when there could be no mail in the office until 9am?
Ive raised this a few times

If there IS mail in the building there to be sorted earlier than everyones new start time then everyone could start earlier - there'd be no reason for the later start to begin with

The mail wont be there any earlier so there will be no viable family friendly option
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
A2B
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Post by A2B »

You might have a decent COM but they are not only person with access to the PDA data, every minute of our day is being looked at. Enjoy it while it lasts
koolishy67
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Post by koolishy67 »

Those days are gone now
postslippete
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Post by postslippete »

Acca Dacca wrote:
17 Jul 2023, 19:28
Stella102 wrote:
17 Jul 2023, 19:13
Well if you start at 9 am and have a 7 hour duty you will finish at 4 pm. How can you start earlier when there could be no mail in the office until 9am?
Ive raised this a few times

If there IS mail in the building there to be sorted earlier than everyones new start time then everyone could start earlier - there'd be no reason for the later start to begin with

The mail wont be there any earlier so there will be no viable family friendly option

There would always be mail/packets from the previous day that other posties didn't take out that would need delivering? Whether the COM would allow people to start earlier and SISO can still record them as working a 7 hour duty - starting at 7am and finishing at 2pm??
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.