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RMCtv : Zareena Brown : Attendance changes

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theotherone
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Re: RMCtv : Zareena Brown : Attendance changes

Post by theotherone »

No Union involvement because the RTWs are now informal so no entitlement.
Why the **** would any trade union allow this to happen.
Farce.
Neebs
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Re: RMCtv : Zareena Brown : Attendance changes

Post by Neebs »

Suck it up yes voters and make sure you understand the process..this is just one of many changes coming thick and fast ,,I can hear the screams already just remember you votes for this 😂
Woody Guthrie
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

Neebs wrote:
13 Jul 2023, 15:58
Suck it up yes voters and make sure you understand the process..this is just one of many changes coming thick and fast ,,I can hear the screams already just remember you votes for this 😂
Nobody is screaming because we were all paying attention.
This was coming in on the 1st August regardless of the outcome of the vote.
Only dead fish follow the current
heraldmoth
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Re: RMCtv : Zareena Brown : Attendance changes

Post by heraldmoth »

All of this means nothing, just mention mental health in your return to work, nobodies touching that with a barge pole
derekm
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Re: RMCtv : Zareena Brown : Attendance changes

Post by derekm »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
13 Jul 2023, 16:13
Neebs wrote:
13 Jul 2023, 15:58
Suck it up yes voters and make sure you understand the process..this is just one of many changes coming thick and fast ,,I can hear the screams already just remember you votes for this 😂
Nobody is screaming because we were all paying attention.
This was coming in on the 1st August regardless of the outcome of the vote.
Quite obvious that some on here didn’t pay attention. It was getting changed regardless what the union says. Just another way the company saves money and that’s all they’re concerned about.
postieblueshirt
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Re: RMCtv : Zareena Brown : Attendance changes

Post by postieblueshirt »

derekm wrote:
13 Jul 2023, 16:18
Woody Guthrie wrote:
13 Jul 2023, 16:13
Neebs wrote:
13 Jul 2023, 15:58
Suck it up yes voters and make sure you understand the process..this is just one of many changes coming thick and fast ,,I can hear the screams already just remember you votes for this 😂
Nobody is screaming because we were all paying attention.
This was coming in on the 1st August regardless of the outcome of the vote.
Quite obvious that some on here didn’t pay attention. It was getting changed regardless what the union says. Just another way the company saves money and that’s all they’re concerned about.
It was getting changed regardless of the union because royal mail just tells the union we're doing this now by the way.As the cwu has no power to stop anything.
Woody Guthrie
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

heraldmoth wrote:
13 Jul 2023, 16:17
All of this means nothing, just mention mental health in your return to work, nobodies touching that with a barge pole
Thank you for undermining genuine mental health issues.
What would you like to pretend to have next, cancer?
Only dead fish follow the current
postslippete
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Post by postslippete »

These changes were going to be introduced regardless of an agreement according to Martin Walsh. They gave RM 90 days notice or something.


It's interesting that the business now puts a positive spin on it to suggest that it was always part of the agreement that we voted for. In other words if we voted NO, they wouldn't have brought these changes in?
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
glynnlondon
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Re: RMCtv : Zareena Brown : Attendance changes

Post by glynnlondon »

Seems reading that August 1 everyone automatically on new procedure so check what sick you may have had in the past 12 months.
If you exceed 2 instances or 11 days you will trigger a stage.
pieoftheday
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Re: RMCtv : Zareena Brown : Attendance changes

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I'm pretty sure a stage lasted a year ages ago or am I making that up :hmmmm
heraldmoth
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Re: RMCtv : Zareena Brown : Attendance changes

Post by heraldmoth »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
13 Jul 2023, 16:22
heraldmoth wrote:
13 Jul 2023, 16:17
All of this means nothing, just mention mental health in your return to work, nobodies touching that with a barge pole
Thank you for undermining genuine mental health issues.
What would you like to pretend to have next, cancer?
Genuine cases are few and far between. ppl milking it however, much more common, it’s a convenient get out of jail card far too often
aiden01
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Post by aiden01 »

pieoftheday wrote:
13 Jul 2023, 16:45
I'm pretty sure a stage lasted a year ages ago or am I making that up :hmmmm
No your not making it up your 100%right not sure when it changed tho.about 15yrs ago maybe found it strange back then when it was changed to only 6months.
Nickvilla20
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Re: RMCtv : Zareena Brown : Attendance changes

Post by Nickvilla20 »

pieoftheday wrote:
13 Jul 2023, 16:45
I'm pretty sure a stage lasted a year ages ago or am I making that up :hmmmm
It used to then it got reduced to six months.
Acca Dacca
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Re: RMCtv : Zareena Brown : Attendance changes

Post by Acca Dacca »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
13 Jul 2023, 16:13
Neebs wrote:
13 Jul 2023, 15:58
Suck it up yes voters and make sure you understand the process..this is just one of many changes coming thick and fast ,,I can hear the screams already just remember you votes for this 😂
Nobody is screaming because we were all paying attention.
This was coming in on the 1st August regardless of the outcome of the vote.
Well to be fair some people, including yourself, didnt realise Ricky McAuley confirmed that we are now not being paid for first few days of second absence. They thought, and many still think, that we are still being paid for those days - just a bit less.

Those people werent paying attention.

I still dont know how RM intended to change our sick pay terms on 1st August if there was no agreement - changing the stage threshold I understand how they can do what they want with that - but not how they can just decide to stop paying us. I thought things like would pose some difficulty for them without the employee's agreement. Either they couldnt really and it was just a bluff to the union, or they couldnt really and the union knew it but went along with the line that they were going to impose it anyway to help secure an agreement and because they agreed with RM that theres too many pisstakers and something has to give.

Or of course, as I suspect you will tell me, they did it because they can.

In which case what is the purpose of our contracts? Is there anything stopping them giving notice that all sick pay is stopping as of January 1st 2024? Whats the difference? What is actually protected?
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
pieoftheday
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Re: RMCtv : Zareena Brown : Attendance changes

Post by pieoftheday »

Nickvilla20 wrote:
13 Jul 2023, 16:50
pieoftheday wrote:
13 Jul 2023, 16:45
I'm pretty sure a stage lasted a year ages ago or am I making that up :hmmmm
It used to then it got reduced to six months.
Sickening isnt it