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pieoftheday
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Post by pieoftheday »

Last 3 weeks our DO employed 20 new starters, 3 remain :Very Happy
scoobydo79
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Post by scoobydo79 »

Would You stay now if it were You? I don’t think I would to be honest.
qwerty2
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Post by qwerty2 »

Wonder what the turnover is for other companies
Some people think its easy to go round doing parcels
dont know how many times ive seen different people for evri etc in their cars full of packets
they last a few weeks then its somebody different
Wonder what the turnover is for Amazon working sundays 10pm finishes etc
norris9
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Post by norris9 »

pieoftheday wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 19:50
Last 3 weeks our DO employed 20 new starters, 3 remain :Very Happy
Reasons why they left?

When you first start work for a company, that is the time you tend to work your hardest, go the extra mile....

The problem now is that new starts will quickly realise they literally have to go the extra mile every single day. Jobs are too big that new starts are probably staying out 1 hour+ over their finish times as they won't know the round. It will be massively draining on them physically and mentally.

New starts must have a terrible first impression of what the job entails and quickly realise they cannot commit to it longer term.
sixfoottwo
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Post by sixfoottwo »

Is it any surprise really? old timers are leaving pretty much weekly at ours and I'll be hopefully out soon after 28 yrs, bit of a joke no VR but there you go.
postslippete
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Post by postslippete »

If the company cannot keep experienced long-serving staff; how does it really expect new entrants on even less pay, terms and conditions to stick around?

I know it must be crap for some people being unemployed and living on benefits. But it must also be crap to be working in an environment where you don't know your hours or what you will be doing from one day to the next.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
richj2009
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Post by richj2009 »

And we're 20% over paid. How can that be if staff aren't staying? Weird. Surely if people are leaving then we are under paid. Its a mystery to me.
norris9
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Post by norris9 »

richj2009 wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 20:24
And we're 20% over paid. How can that be if staff aren't staying? Weird. Surely if people are leaving then we are under paid. Its a mystery to me.
This salary equates to a bank offering you a mortgage of £120,000.... it might work out for you in the back end of Glasgow.... but try buying a property with that money in the South East....

20% overpaid....ok Thompson!

More like we should be getting £30 an hour these days. Minimum wage should be £25 an hour based on the cost of renting and buying property.
pieoftheday
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One chap left after an hour on delivery :nana
Ozcabsmangan
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Post by Ozcabsmangan »

We take bets on how long they last
Jb1969
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Post by Jb1969 »

Did the board expect those new entrants to be grateful to be on 20% less than those surrounding them.
Did they expect them to be given no training & simply handed a walk & be told you start there.
Did they think they would be happy to walk 10-14 miles in all weather.
Did they ever wonder that posties have families, that the wkends were important to some.

I think it will change, but will take years to do so.
Certainly would not rely on Ofcom, nothing more than a gutless company looking after themselves.
But 3 outa 20, that put smile on my face😬
qwerty2
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Remember if they cant keep new starters RM said they might have to look at sunday working again
pieoftheday
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Post by pieoftheday »

scoobydo79 wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 19:54
Would You stay now if it were You? I don’t think I would to be honest.
No I wouldn't
Nickvilla20
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Post by Nickvilla20 »

This is no surprise. Eventually they will have to pay new starters what current staff are been paid to retain them.
Redshadow
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Post by Redshadow »

14 people offered jobs in our office,only 1 person accepted offer
1 agency worker was offered a full time position and was told terms and conditions,turned it down as it was better money and hours on agency