YOUR DOOMED

[jafferpants]

[quote="L Tommo"]BRING OUT YA DEAD.... BRING OUT YOUR DEAD!!! DONGGGGGGGG DONGGGGGG DONGGGGGGG!!




I married it!!!!!!!!

[marky]

sorry to put you all on a downer but you are all forgetting 1 problem we have in our fight againist rm. our so called leader... just like the pay deal the pie munching monster will sell us out . we can all rant and rave on here as much as we like but when it comes down to it we will never win a battle with that man as our leader. .

so lets all wake up and smell the coffee we are fxxxed.

[jafferpants]

sorry to put you all on a downer but you are all forgetting 1 problem we have in our fight againist rm. our so called leader... just like the pay deal the pie munching monster will sell us out . we can all rant and rave on here as much as we like but when it comes down to it we will never win a battle with that man as our leader. .

so lets all wake up and smell the coffee we are fxxxed.

i hear D ward is standing unaposed at the next election

[marky]

s**t is he any better..he should have had the balls to stand up to pie muncher over the pay deal sell out...

[Night Tonic]

Agree. There will be a bit of an attempt by Hayes so he doesn't lose as much face as he already is then the signatures will be made on the pension changes - End of story. No strike and no fight. Goodbye pensions - hello 65.

[jafferpants]

s**t is he any better..he should have had the balls to stand up to pie muncher over the pay deal sell out...

Exactly, as far as i'm concerned they are both as bad as each other.

[marky]

THANKS FOR THE ENCOURAGING WORDS...


SEE YOU ON THE PICKET LINE....



I hope you give back any advantages the union win when you are out on your own if you scab???


out

lmfao if you scab,what does that mean.please explain.

as for me being a non union member and there for neither being balloted or consulted by the union i shall be going in as normal .i and my fellow non membs cant aford not to...yes i promise ill hand back all the extra perks the action wins ,like the new tnt uniforms

canttypeandshouts I have no problem with non union members going in to work as it is there choice to etheir join a union and stand up for the fight or stay non members and lie down and take all royal mail want to do to them.
dont knock people who have morals and principles and stand and fight rather that just give them away on a whimper.at the end of the day all non union members still hold out their hands and take what the union members have had the courage to fight for.

[Night Tonic]

I have no problem with non union members going in to work as it is there choice to etheir join a union and stand up for the fight or stay non members and lie down and take all royal mail want to do to them.

oh and i forgot to say go grow a back bone you big pile of jelly.

Isn't that a contradiction?

[marky]

I have no problem with non union members going in to work as it is there choice to etheir join a union and stand up for the fight or stay non members and lie down and take all royal mail want to do to them.

oh and i forgot to say go grow a back bone you big pile of jelly.

Isn't that a contradiction?

yes night tonic it is but i could hardly just come straight out with the truth and say cantypeandshouts you and the rest of your friends if you have any are scabby spineless so and so's with no morals and are kiss asses. i tried to say it in a round about way so tbt would not delete this post.

thanks for giving the game away

[Night Tonic]

Not sure where you attribute the 'scabby' bit. Never been one of those EVER, but I'm not a union lover either - who is frankly....

[BB brother]

Canttypeandshouts....

You havnt got a clue what your talking about.

[jacee]

Canttypeandshouts....

You havnt got a clue what your talking about.

oh yes he does and you are all falling for it - ignore the prat and let him sort out another alias

[jemima]

I expect your viewpoint on Union issues depends a lot on your past employment history and whether you've ever had any major problems with an employer to get you thinking about working conditions.

One place where I've worked, they tried not to give anybody any holiday pay at all, although there's clear legislation stating that all workers should receive it. Those who made a fuss were given the worst jobs to do - those girls the manager happened to like got hugged and if they didn't like it and said so, he'd find fault with their work and get their pay docked. I left that place quickly, as did many others, but it's still going after a fashion, though even migrant workers don't stay long. It was no fun at all there but I learnt a bit about workers' rights, in self-defence.

Another place I worked, it was a family business and I was treated as part of the family. I would still be working there if someone in my family hadn't become ill, requiring full-time care for a time. I'd never have needed to know about Unions if I'd gone on working there.

RM working conditions are good, all things considered. If you look at the history of RM working, though, you realise that the conditions are good because the Union has been involved in negotiating them. I wish the CWU would put a potted history of its achievements (listing pay deals offered, and those actually obtained, the negotiated health and safety guidelines, etc etc) on its web site, for all to see. It's not about obstructing management per se, it's about making sure that everyone is treated fairly. The CWU policy is quite wide-ranging (see http://www.cwu.org/default.asp?step=2&id=27). RM is a large company and there's no point in pretending that it's operating for the benefit of its workers. It's operating to make the maximum profit for the management and for the government. RM can support Adam's and Allan's pay rises and bonuses, but apparently has problems when it comes to our pensions and pay. We need to be organised, with the Union resources to support us in the choices we vote for and to keep us acting together in our best interests. If we let that go, cuts in our pay and working conditions would be inevitable until we hit the minimum wage level, running.

[rhino49]

I expect your viewpoint on Union issues depends a lot on your past employment history and whether you've ever had any major problems with an employer to get you thinking about working conditions.

One place where I've worked, they tried not to give anybody any holiday pay at all, although there's clear legislation stating that all workers should receive it. Those who made a fuss were given the worst jobs to do - those girls the manager happened to like got hugged and if they didn't like it and said so, he'd find fault with their work and get their pay docked. I left that place quickly, as did many others, but it's still going after a fashion, though even migrant workers don't stay long. It was no fun at all there but I learnt a bit about workers' rights, in self-defence.

Another place I worked, it was a family business and I was treated as part of the family. I would still be working there if someone in my family hadn't become ill, requiring full-time care for a time. I'd never have needed to know about Unions if I'd gone on working there.

RM working conditions are good, all things considered. If you look at the history of RM working, though, you realise that the conditions are good because the Union has been involved in negotiating them. I wish the CWU would put a potted history of its achievements (listing pay deals offered, and those actually obtained, the negotiated health and safety guidelines, etc etc) on its web site, for all to see. It's not about obstructing management per se, it's about making sure that everyone is treated fairly. The CWU policy is quite wide-ranging (see http://www.cwu.org/default.asp?step=2&id=27). RM is a large company and there's no point in pretending that it's operating for the benefit of its workers. It's operating to make the maximum profit for the management and for the government. RM can support Adam's and Allan's pay rises and bonuses, but apparently has problems when it comes to our pensions and pay. We need to be organised, with the Union resources to support us in the choices we vote for and to keep us acting together in our best interests. If we let that go, cuts in our pay and working conditions would be inevitable until we hit the minimum wage level, running.

Good post Jemima

[BELIAL]

See it's strike breakers re united night tonight ,they keep trying don't they .
Shame on you. Sleep well hope your guilt does'nt trouble you to much,nah it won't will it ,low as low can get