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Result prediction thread

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arsenalbob
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Re: Result prediction thread

Post by arsenalbob »

Is there anyone left that actually gives two monkeys what the result is? The times they are a changing regardless.
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

demon wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 18:00

No matter which way the vote goes Dave and Andy must step down to allow new stronger and younger blood with more balls to fight within the union
That's the funniest comment of the night.
You've obviously never been to conference.
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George50
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Post by George50 »

We care a lot 60`% no 54% yes
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Re: Result prediction thread

Post by zz666 »

Cwu incapable of holding a legal ballot, so rm will take them to court given the 97.1% who voted no.
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Post by FilthyBloke »

I think YES will prevail. It’ll be close though…
But if it’s a NO it gives the CWU a chance, perhaps, to win back a bit of faith from its members. If it’s a NO the union must be stronger than they have been.
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Re: Result prediction thread

Post by Redsoxirish »

:Very Happy
scotchy1962 wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 16:22
clashcityrocker wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 15:47
I still think Vingegaard will keep the yellow jersey.
I am hoping that too.
Although Pogacar looks strong, i am not fussed on him, bit like some people i know he has a attitude problem.
On the vote i could see a Yes win and a low turn out, but no matter how it goes the result won't be good for us.
I just fancy a NO to piss RM and the union off and see how brave they really are. Not as brave as me i fancy.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Result prediction thread

Post by SpacePhoenix »

zz666 wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 18:43
Cwu incapable of holding a legal ballot, so rm will take them to court given the 97.1% who voted no.
70% for NO.

If the result is a NO vote and the turnout is low, I can see RM challenging the result in court
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Re: Result prediction thread

Post by postieblueshirt »

Is there a certain threshold that has to be met? I know there is for a strike ballot but I take it there isn't one for this type of vote.
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Re: Result prediction thread

Post by k979aaa »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 19:47
zz666 wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 18:43
Cwu incapable of holding a legal ballot, so rm will take them to court given the 97.1% who voted no.
70% for NO.

If the result is a NO vote and the turnout is low, I can see RM challenging the result in court
This is a vote on a pay deal not a bloody strike ballot
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Post by postieblueshirt »

k979aaa wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 19:56
SpacePhoenix wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 19:47
zz666 wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 18:43
Cwu incapable of holding a legal ballot, so rm will take them to court given the 97.1% who voted no.
70% for NO.

If the result is a NO vote and the turnout is low, I can see RM challenging the result in court
This is a vote on a pay deal not a bloody strike ballot
Think you just answered my question lol.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Result prediction thread

Post by SpacePhoenix »

k979aaa wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 19:56
SpacePhoenix wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 19:47
zz666 wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 18:43
Cwu incapable of holding a legal ballot, so rm will take them to court given the 97.1% who voted no.
70% for NO.

If the result is a NO vote and the turnout is low, I can see RM challenging the result in court
This is a vote on a pay deal not a bloody strike ballot
Do you honestly believe that RM would never challenged the vote outcome in court if it wa a NO vote and the turnout was low? :cuppa
richj2009
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Re: Result prediction thread

Post by richj2009 »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 19:59
k979aaa wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 19:56
SpacePhoenix wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 19:47
zz666 wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 18:43
Cwu incapable of holding a legal ballot, so rm will take them to court given the 97.1% who voted no.
70% for NO.

If the result is a NO vote and the turnout is low, I can see RM challenging the result in court
This is a vote on a pay deal not a bloody strike ballot
Do you honestly believe that RM would never challenged the vote outcome in court if it wa a NO vote and the turnout was low? :cuppa
It wouldn't be challenged as it's quite clear that royal mail don't want or need this or any other agreement.
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Re: Result prediction thread

Post by Woody Guthrie »

FilthyBloke wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 18:51
I think YES will prevail. It’ll be close though…
But if it’s a NO it gives the CWU a chance, perhaps, to win back a bit of faith from its members. If it’s a NO the union must be stronger than they have been.
The strength of the union with regards to negotiations comes directly from the membership and what they are willing to sacrifice in order to win concessions, that willingness to sacrifice has been eroded almost to the point of non-existence

I'm not sure under the circumstances how we could be anything other than in a weaker position than when we started so effectively we would be trying to negotiate a better deal from a worse position... or basically begging I suppose.

If someone could explain how that isn't the case I'm willing to listen.
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Re: Result prediction thread

Post by k979aaa »

richj2009 wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 20:08
SpacePhoenix wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 19:59
k979aaa wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 19:56
SpacePhoenix wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 19:47
zz666 wrote:
10 Jul 2023, 18:43
Cwu incapable of holding a legal ballot, so rm will take them to court given the 97.1% who voted no.
70% for NO.

If the result is a NO vote and the turnout is low, I can see RM challenging the result in court
This is a vote on a pay deal not a bloody strike ballot
Do you honestly believe that RM would never challenged the vote outcome in court if it wa a NO vote and the turnout was low? :cuppa
It wouldn't be challenged as it's quite clear that royal mail don't want or need this or any other agreement.
If this has just one vote in favour it will carry the question on the ballot paper regardless of the turnout.
As to RM they could not give a flying f**k as they have just done today with the customer service points and what next is in the line?
Sorry for venting off on here but this is the start of the end of Royal Mail!
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Re: Result prediction thread

Post by Raseth2011 »

26% yes
71 % no