If you are voting NO - PLEASE SHARE - 'VOTE NO' LEAFLET

[timbo1234]

Is the leaflet two sides because I am assuming that Plan B is on the back. If it's a no vote then the no voters must have a comprehensive plan to move forward. Are we having more strikes? Are we working to rule? Who will be the new negotiators for the newly formed union?
Will RM be prepared to start negotiations all over again? What timeframe are looking at? What are we asking for 10% backdated to Apr 22? 10% from Apr 23. All revisions and t&cs reinstated? You cannot vote no without having a credible plan to immediately put to RM, and more importantly the members. We are voting soon so the no voters must put forward their alternative strategy so members have a third choice - to go with the their plan.

[LouBarlow]

Probably should add that you will be doing all of those if you vote no too.

Can at least say we didnt vote in or agree with the sell-out.

That matters more to some people, you know.

It matters more than a pay-rise, lump sum and having union involvement in your employment rights going forward? Wow. Fact is, voting no means you will still be delivering in the dark, apparently being attacked non-stop by dogs and muggers, but at least you can turn round and tell them that you didn’t vote to be out there.

I’ll ask again, for the umpteenth time, what do you hope to achieve by voting no?

The unions involvement in employment rights thus far, is exactly the reason to vote NO.

People will vote NO and ultimately leave the sinking ship, and its entirely their right, than shoehorning in an absolute sell out.

Voting no and then leaving is possibly the most ridiculous thing I have read on these boards yet. If you are going to leave anyway, vote yes, get your well deserved lump sum and then leave with £1400 in your pocket. Ki

Why would you vote against a lump sum if you are going to leave anyway? Lol.

Some have the decency not to sell their colleagues and friends out for a chicken feed taxed lump.....then leave.

Some may differ, hence why its down to choice.

No, they are being even more idiotic, in turning down money and making the workplace they leave behind even more volatile and clueless going forward for the colleagues and friends they are abandoning. And also turning down said financial benefits for those colleagues and friends who wish to remain working for RM going forward. Yeah, thanks.

[Kirkz]

Is the leaflet two sides because I am assuming that Plan B is on the back. If it's a no vote then the no voters must have a comprehensive plan to move forward. Are we having more strikes? Are we working to rule? Who will be the new negotiators for the newly formed union?
Will RM be prepared to start negotiations all over again? What timeframe are looking at? What are we asking for 10% backdated to Apr 22? 10% from Apr 23. All revisions and t&cs reinstated? You cannot vote no without having a credible plan to immediately put to RM, and more importantly the members. We are voting soon so the no voters must put forward their alternative strategy so members have a third choice - to go with the their plan.

Plan B is for the union to work out once the vote is over.
If it's a yes then nothing for them to do.
If it's no then they'd better get their thinking caps on and come up with a strategy, it's what they are paid for.

[koolishy67]

Yes

[worktotime]

Probably should add that you will be doing all of those if you vote no too.

Can at least say we didnt vote in or agree with the sell-out.

That matters more to some people, you know.

It matters more than a pay-rise, lump sum and having union involvement in your employment rights going forward? Wow. Fact is, voting no means you will still be delivering in the dark, apparently being attacked non-stop by dogs and muggers, but at least you can turn round and tell them that you didn’t vote to be out there.

I’ll ask again, for the umpteenth time, what do you hope to achieve by voting no?

i will be voting NO and so be it if the company try to bring in there unagreed changes and see how long the company will last before it goes tits up by doing so , and there are some changes the company cant do as well .

[timbo1234]

Is the leaflet two sides because I am assuming that Plan B is on the back. If it's a no vote then the no voters must have a comprehensive plan to move forward. Are we having more strikes? Are we working to rule? Who will be the new negotiators for the newly formed union?
Will RM be prepared to start negotiations all over again? What timeframe are looking at? What are we asking for 10% backdated to Apr 22? 10% from Apr 23. All revisions and t&cs reinstated? You cannot vote no without having a credible plan to immediately put to RM, and more importantly the members. We are voting soon so the no voters must put forward their alternative strategy so members have a third choice - to go with the their plan.

Plan B is for the union to work out once the vote is over.
If it's a yes then nothing for them to do.
If it's no then they'd better get their thinking caps on and come up with a strategy, it's what they are paid for.

So the plan B is for the same people in the same union to magic up a new strategy that we agree can be put to RM. RM will reconsider it or not then we start all over again. Really, I mean really!!!!!

[John Gaita]

Probably should add that you will be doing all of those if you vote no too.

False. Many of the changes need to be voted in to be implemented. Like working for free this financial year, 30 hours this first year (and more the coming years, we all know that). For a part timer, that's an entire week, unpaid, for free. Never in my life did I see a union asking its members to agree with working for free. But here we are.

[John Gaita]

you will still be delivering in the dark, apparently being attacked non-stop by dogs and muggers

Don't moan then when it happens, and you run out of sick pay. You obviously never delivered late at night in pitch dark.

[John Gaita]

Everyone needs to be reminded of something.

We are only being asked if we agree with this deal. Yes or No. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less.

No one is being asked what happens if the deal is rejected. That is up to the CWU and Royal Mail. A rejection of this deal could force them to, finally, start listening to their members/employees. And then coming up with a better solution. They had an year and an half to do it. They didn't, and that's why we are here.

There's always shills trying to spin the reality. They slither out from under their rocks in every vote and election when the result is not the planned. This vote is on the deal. And we are only being given two options. That will decide our future.

[Seymour Buts]

Back in the old days, we always used to work during the dark early morning. Currently I get out about 9am, and sit in rush hour traffic. Nobody is working for 'free', unless you're saying we'll be paid more in the summer.

Vote against by all means as is all of our democratic right, but if you're doing it based on that you're fool coz most of it is complete rubbish.

[seaside]

Probably should add that you will be doing all of those if you vote no too.

Can at least say we didnt vote in or agree with the sell-out.

That matters more to some people, you know.

It matters more than a pay-rise, lump sum and having union involvement in your employment rights going forward? Wow. Fact is, voting no means you will still be delivering in the dark, apparently being attacked non-stop by dogs and muggers, but at least you can turn round and tell them that you didn’t vote to be out there.

I’ll ask again, for the umpteenth time, what do you hope to achieve by voting no?

The unions involvement in employment rights thus far, is exactly the reason to vote NO.

People will vote NO and ultimately leave the sinking ship, and its entirely their right, than shoehorning in an absolute sell out.

Voting no and then leaving is possibly the most ridiculous thing I have read on these boards yet. If you are going to leave anyway, vote yes, get your well deserved lump sum and then leave with £1400 in your pocket.

Why would you vote against a lump sum if you are going to leave anyway? Lol.

£1400 in your pocket?? Are we not paying tax and national insurance on it,

[seaside]

Was going to vote yes for the deal, but the more I have looked at the deal, I have decided that I will be voting No.

[aiden01]

Everyone needs to be reminded of something.

We are only being asked if we agree with this deal. Yes or No. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less.

No one is being asked what happens if the deal is rejected. That is up to the CWU and Royal Mail. A rejection of this deal could force them to, finally, start listening to their members/employees. And then coming up with a better solution. They had an year and an half to do it. They didn't, and that's why we are here.

There's always shills trying to spin the reality. They slither out from under their rocks in every vote and election when the result is not the planned. This vote is on the deal. And we are only being given two options. That will decide our future.

Rm did,nt listen after 18 days of strikes just face if its a no vote everything they want will be rammed through in the blink of an eye.

[aiden01]

Was going to vote yes for the deal, but the more I have looked at the deal, I have decided that I will be voting No.

So what changed your mind.

[aiden01]

Probably should add that you will be doing all of those if you vote no too.

Can at least say we didnt vote in or agree with the sell-out.

That matters more to some people, you know.

It matters more than a pay-rise, lump sum and having union involvement in your employment rights going forward? Wow. Fact is, voting no means you will still be delivering in the dark, apparently being attacked non-stop by dogs and muggers, but at least you can turn round and tell them that you didn’t vote to be out there.

I’ll ask again, for the umpteenth time, what do you hope to achieve by voting no?

The unions involvement in employment rights thus far, is exactly the reason to vote NO.

People will vote NO and ultimately leave the sinking ship, and its entirely their right, than shoehorning in an absolute sell out.

Voting no and then leaving is possibly the most ridiculous thing I have read on these boards yet. If you are going to leave anyway, vote yes, get your well deserved lump sum and then leave with £1400 in your pocket.

Why would you vote against a lump sum if you are going to leave anyway? Lol.

£1400 in your pocket?? Are we not paying tax and national insurance on it,

Of course we are just like any other lump sum over the years.