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guardianangel
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Re: Jesus Christ

Post by guardianangel »

richietns wrote:
03 May 2023, 08:50
guardianangel wrote:
03 May 2023, 05:47
vote NO !!!!!
vote YES !!!!!
NO !!!!!
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Re: Jesus Christ

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guardianangel wrote:
03 May 2023, 14:56
richietns wrote:
03 May 2023, 08:50
guardianangel wrote:
03 May 2023, 05:47
vote NO !!!!!
vote YES !!!!!
NO !!!!!
I am voting no .
toonshola
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Re: Jesus Christ

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Martin Walsh wrote:
02 May 2023, 13:54
I was also on the call today and did not see it the way you did and have been to unit reps this morning and going to anther this afternoon and another different one tomorrow morning I think sometimes on here and social media you can get into a bubble.

The majority of our members do not go anywhere near social media in discussions over work.

Dave and Andy confirmed that all local reps were released to attend a face to face meeting where all their questions would be answered as the meeting was on scheduled for 30 to 40 minutes.

This issue with seasonal variations is strange and shows the mistrust in the business. The start of seasonal variations had to start at some stage and the union did not believe it should have start in June because we want to carry out a pilot to see if it works and also for it to work the uso and quality of service needs to be restored.

I don’t ever hear people on wallington duties complaining that they have to work an 37 hours over 5 weeks before they get their Wally week.

This belief that everyone balances their hours in a week is most not the case unless you don’t have longs and shorts or a shorter Saturday or unless you have a fixed rest day.
Absolutely hilarious. The man who lives in the backslapping self congratulatory cult world of the CWU says we live in a bubble on here. Maybe have a tour of some random delivery offices and get the mood of how we really feel about the sell out deal.
clashcityrocker
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Re: Jesus Christ

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toonshola wrote:
03 May 2023, 16:35


Absolutely hilarious. The man who lives in the backslapping self congratulatory cult world of the CWU says we live in a bubble on here. Maybe have a tour of some random delivery offices and get the mood of how we really feel about the sell out deal.
I think if you go back to the start of RMC you will find every agreement has been met with derision on this site. And then a yes vote by the membership.
So it is a bit of a bubble.
I think he does visit delivery offices. I am sure he is well aware of the mood in delivery offices.

Outside of this site I haven't heard of anyone even considering voting no.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
LouBarlow
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Re: Jesus Christ

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toonshola wrote:
03 May 2023, 16:35
Martin Walsh wrote:
02 May 2023, 13:54
I was also on the call today and did not see it the way you did and have been to unit reps this morning and going to anther this afternoon and another different one tomorrow morning I think sometimes on here and social media you can get into a bubble.

The majority of our members do not go anywhere near social media in discussions over work.

Dave and Andy confirmed that all local reps were released to attend a face to face meeting where all their questions would be answered as the meeting was on scheduled for 30 to 40 minutes.

This issue with seasonal variations is strange and shows the mistrust in the business. The start of seasonal variations had to start at some stage and the union did not believe it should have start in June because we want to carry out a pilot to see if it works and also for it to work the uso and quality of service needs to be restored.

I don’t ever hear people on wallington duties complaining that they have to work an 37 hours over 5 weeks before they get their Wally week.

This belief that everyone balances their hours in a week is most not the case unless you don’t have longs and shorts or a shorter Saturday or unless you have a fixed rest day.
Absolutely hilarious. The man who lives in the backslapping self congratulatory cult world of the CWU says we live in a bubble on here. Maybe have a tour of some random delivery offices and get the mood of how we really feel about the sell out deal.
Have you taken a tour of some random delivery offices then? I admire your commitment to statistical accuracy.
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Re: Jesus Christ

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clashcityrocker wrote:
03 May 2023, 16:43
toonshola wrote:
03 May 2023, 16:35


Absolutely hilarious. The man who lives in the backslapping self congratulatory cult world of the CWU says we live in a bubble on here. Maybe have a tour of some random delivery offices and get the mood of how we really feel about the sell out deal.
I think if you go back to the start of RMC you will find every agreement has been met with derision on this site. And then a yes vote by the membership.
So it is a bit of a bubble.
I think he does visit delivery offices. I am sure he is well aware of the mood in delivery offices.

Outside of this site I haven't heard of anyone even considering voting no.
There’s two things different this time compared to past agreements being signed off

All the strike days and social media

Social media has been there for past disputes but not coupled with all the action and strikes have been taken before an agreement but without social media being as big a beast

People are more engaged than ever before

And angry
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
Mr Rush
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Re: Jesus Christ

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clashcityrocker wrote:
03 May 2023, 16:43
I think if you go back to the start of RMC you will find every agreement has been met with derision on this site. And then a yes vote by the membership.
Crying wolf doesn't mean there aren't any wolves. How much of a hand did the 'managed decline' have in leading us to the apocalyptic mess we find ourselves in now?

Everyone I've spoken to at my office has, without prompting, expressed an intention to vote against the proposal. Yes, most people are not on this site, so I think those conversations are much more representative of the mood of members.
The machine stops.
richietns
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Re: Jesus Christ

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guardianangel wrote:
03 May 2023, 14:56
richietns wrote:
03 May 2023, 08:50
guardianangel wrote:
03 May 2023, 05:47
vote NO !!!!!
vote YES !!!!!
NO !!!!!
The economy says yes.
guardianangel
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Re: Jesus Christ

Post by guardianangel »

richietns wrote:
03 May 2023, 21:56
guardianangel wrote:
03 May 2023, 14:56
richietns wrote:
03 May 2023, 08:50
guardianangel wrote:
03 May 2023, 05:47
vote NO !!!!!
vote YES !!!!!
NO !!!!!
The economy says yes.
We will come back in June and the same old argument on here ,should we or should we not strike hard,i hope they are planning for plan B
Nickvilla20
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Re: Jesus Christ

Post by Nickvilla20 »

guardianangel wrote:
04 May 2023, 05:44
richietns wrote:
03 May 2023, 21:56
guardianangel wrote:
03 May 2023, 14:56
richietns wrote:
03 May 2023, 08:50
guardianangel wrote:
03 May 2023, 05:47
vote NO !!!!!
vote YES !!!!!
NO !!!!!
The economy says yes.
We will come back in June and the same old argument on here ,should we or should we not strike hard,i hope they are planning for plan B
There isn’t a plan B. There will be no more strikes.
Burghboy
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Re: Jesus Christ

Post by Burghboy »

clashcityrocker wrote:
03 May 2023, 16:43
toonshola wrote:
03 May 2023, 16:35


Absolutely hilarious. The man who lives in the backslapping self congratulatory cult world of the CWU says we live in a bubble on here. Maybe have a tour of some random delivery offices and get the mood of how we really feel about the sell out deal.
I think if you go back to the start of RMC you will find every agreement has been met with derision on this site. And then a yes vote by the membership.
So it is a bit of a bubble.
I think he does visit delivery offices. I am sure he is well aware of the mood in delivery offices.

Outside of this site I haven't heard of anyone even considering voting no.
Really? Do you work in delivery? Most of the folk I have heard from are voting no.
stevejm
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Re: Jesus Christ

Post by stevejm »

clashcityrocker wrote:
03 May 2023, 16:43
toonshola wrote:
03 May 2023, 16:35


Absolutely hilarious. The man who lives in the backslapping self congratulatory cult world of the CWU says we live in a bubble on here. Maybe have a tour of some random delivery offices and get the mood of how we really feel about the sell out deal.
I think if you go back to the start of RMC you will find every agreement has been met with derision on this site. And then a yes vote by the membership.
So it is a bit of a bubble.
I think he does visit delivery offices. I am sure he is well aware of the mood in delivery offices.

Outside of this site I haven't heard of anyone even considering voting no.
And with 13,307 posts over 12.5 years you are more qualified than anybody else to know.
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Re: Jesus Christ

Post by denhamhoop »

Martin Walsh wrote:
02 May 2023, 13:54
I was also on the call today and did not see it the way you did and have been to unit reps this morning and going to anther this afternoon and another different one tomorrow morning I think sometimes on here and social media you can get into a bubble.

The majority of our members do not go anywhere near social media in discussions over work.

Dave and Andy confirmed that all local reps were released to attend a face to face meeting where all their questions would be answered as the meeting was on scheduled for 30 to 40 minutes.

This issue with seasonal variations is strange and shows the mistrust in the business. The start of seasonal variations had to start at some stage and the union did not believe it should have start in June because we want to carry out a pilot to see if it works and also for it to work the uso and quality of service needs to be restored.

I don’t ever hear people on wallington duties complaining that they have to work an 37 hours over 5 weeks before they get their Wally week.

This belief that everyone balances their hours in a week is most not the case unless you don’t have longs and shorts or a shorter Saturday or unless you have a fixed rest day.
So Martin what happens to those on Wallington duties because none of the splits of 15 22 and 15 break are divisible by 6
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Re: Jesus Christ

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I think what sums up this whole deal is a complication of inadequacy and those that do and the few that do not have to do it!