How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

[robking]

How would I go about stopping my subs?

Why would you want out of the union now? When these changes come in, you will likely need them more than ever.

I'm not leaving now, after the vote. I just want to know how to go about it.
I'd rather take my chances with not being in the CWU.
I'm not giving them any more of my hard earned money!

When you send in your ballot paper, also send a note to your local branch secretary informing them that you have resigned from the union and send a letter to RM payroll instructing them to cease deducting CWU union subscriptions.

[redrebecca]

There's an online meeting tomorrow night at 7pm about campaigning for a "no" vote. Postie speaking about the deal and NHS campaigner speaking about how they won their "no" vote.

Register here http://bit.ly/howtowinthenovote

[richietns]

There's an online meeting tomorrow night at 7pm about campaigning for a "no" vote. Postie speaking about the deal and NHS campaigner speaking about how they won their "no" vote.

Register here http://bit.ly/howtowinthenovote

Isn't the NHS funded by the tax payer though.

[mafiaman]

Seems some may vote because of the carrot .I'm with conditions. ,But then again where Gona start all this s**t again after 18months..and we wont be able too change anything that's been implemented already.Im voting no least we will have a chance Looks like not only the board are mismanaging .greedy liars

[aiden01]

Seems some may vote because of the carrot .I'm with conditions. ,But then again where Gona start all this s**t again after 18months..and we wont be able too change anything that's been implemented already.Im voting no least we will have a chance Looks like not only the board are mismanaging .greedy liars

By voting no in what way will we have a chance?

[postslippete]

A chance to stop this company free falling towards the gig economy?

To be fair though we all knew that the company would go t*ts up years ago and here we are with the company recruiting staff on less pay, terms and conditions. Not good for anybody who wants a future in the company.

[Russpuss]

Even the profit share scheme is awful

The two sides have also agreed on a profit-share agreement: assuming Royal Mail makes an adjusted operating profit in any financial year up to 2024-25, a fifth of those profits will be handed out as a one-off payment to employees, to be paid after publication of the company’s accounts.

We're not making any profit before then, probably not for a good while after either.

The older generation on here will remember the share in success Scheme, which, when it was due to pay out it was then decided Royal mail had made no Money after three years of making profits. All profits disappeared miraculously

Would say so but whats your point yes or no.

If I had a vote it would be a no but I left RM in 2015 on a VR so it doesn’t matter what the vote result is. My point in the previous post was RM are not to be trusted with offers of hardship now for rewards later. Good luck with your fight you will need it.

[atherstone…Fox]

sorry if this has been said before it is winding a lot of HGV PROFFESSIONAL DRIVERS UP
like most of the LOGISTIC drivers we speak to, its a yes vote ,,,,and if its a no vote i dont think many drivers will go out on strike again
especially as we stand on the gate and watch you lot walk by us putting thumbs up
WHEN we had our terms destroyed many years ago where were you for us ....... no where to be seen working shoving two fingers up
saying it dont affect us not our fight
we do everything that you dont want to do
we do sundays
we do bank holidays
we sometimes have to work over our times
we have impossible targets
now we have to join you in your battle .....in a battle where hgv drivers not hardly mentioned in these talks
we should be and need to be a separate unit end of
been in royal mail long enough and every single strike from 1980 to know the dinosaurs still want to make as much time as possible
them days have gone i dont like change it but hey times change.... go get a job outside rm im sure you wont moan then
like me i im sure you buy from amazon and EXPECT it before 10pm same or next day thats the way it is
back to vote ... vote no you get nothing its a s**t deal but its better than nothing the longer this drags on less chance of back pay
you will moan like fick then and who will replace ward and fury ??? some yes men no doubt
as for the profit sharing that wont happen loss making till 2025 new talks start then back in this position or worse

[heapsy]

Worst deal ever for delivery. Nobody else in the business gets shafted like we do. Definitely a no vote from me. Who else will have to flex hours?

[atherstone…Fox]

we have flex hours too and stupid start times like 01.20 for a 12 hour shift
some of the road closures we deal with can make us pretty ate claiming an hour over time last thing we
want after 12 hours so whats an extra 24 mins

[Royalman68]

sorry if this has been said before it is winding a lot of HGV PROFFESSIONAL DRIVERS UP
like most of the LOGISTIC drivers we speak to, its a yes vote ,,,,and if its a no vote i dont think many drivers will go out on strike again
especially as we stand on the gate and watch you lot walk by us putting thumbs up
WHEN we had our terms destroyed many years ago where were you for us ....... no where to be seen working shoving two fingers up
saying it dont affect us not our fight
we do everything that you dont want to do
we do sundays
we do bank holidays
we sometimes have to work over our times
we have impossible targets
now we have to join you in your battle .....in a battle where hgv drivers not hardly mentioned in these talks
we should be and need to be a separate unit end of
been in royal mail long enough and every single strike from 1980 to know the dinosaurs still want to make as much time as possible
them days have gone i dont like change it but hey times change.... go get a job outside rm im sure you wont moan then
like me i im sure you buy from amazon and EXPECT it before 10pm same or next day thats the way it is
back to vote ... vote no you get nothing its a s**t deal but its better than nothing the longer this drags on less chance of back pay
you will moan like fick then and who will replace ward and fury ??? some yes men no doubt
as for the profit sharing that wont happen loss making till 2025 new talks start then back in this position or worse

You hit the nail on the head! Most of the posties are living in cloud cuckoo land. Royal Mail has just posted almost 1 billion loss, and this bunch of lunatics think they deserve a better deal. I know this is not the perfect deal. However, given the Royal Mail's dire financial situation, I would happily vote "yes". I don't think Dave and Andy would have backed this deal if they knew they could extract a better deal under the current situation.

[aiden01]

sorry if this has been said before it is winding a lot of HGV PROFFESSIONAL DRIVERS UP
like most of the LOGISTIC drivers we speak to, its a yes vote ,,,,and if its a no vote i dont think many drivers will go out on strike again
especially as we stand on the gate and watch you lot walk by us putting thumbs up
WHEN we had our terms destroyed many years ago where were you for us ....... no where to be seen working shoving two fingers up
saying it dont affect us not our fight
we do everything that you dont want to do
we do sundays
we do bank holidays
we sometimes have to work over our times
we have impossible targets
now we have to join you in your battle .....in a battle where hgv drivers not hardly mentioned in these talks
we should be and need to be a separate unit end of
been in royal mail long enough and every single strike from 1980 to know the dinosaurs still want to make as much time as possible
them days have gone i dont like change it but hey times change.... go get a job outside rm im sure you wont moan then
like me i im sure you buy from amazon and EXPECT it before 10pm same or next day thats the way it is
back to vote ... vote no you get nothing its a s**t deal but its better than nothing the longer this drags on less chance of back pay
you will moan like fick then and who will replace ward and fury ??? some yes men no doubt
as for the profit sharing that wont happen loss making till 2025 new talks start then back in this position or worse

You hit the nail on the head! Most of the posties are living in cloud cuckoo land. Royal Mail has just posted almost 1 billion loss, and this bunch of lunatics think they deserve a better deal. I know this is not the perfect deal. However, given the Royal Mail's dire financial situation, I would happily vote "yes". I don't think Dave and Andy would have backed this deal if they knew they could extract a better deal under the current situation.

Wait for the onslaught from the usual moaners for saying you will vote yes.

[Royalman68]

I am voting a big "YES".

[aiden01]

I am voting a big "YES".

[renrag40]

sorry if this has been said before it is winding a lot of HGV PROFFESSIONAL DRIVERS UP
like most of the LOGISTIC drivers we speak to, its a yes vote ,,,,and if its a no vote i dont think many drivers will go out on strike again
especially as we stand on the gate and watch you lot walk by us putting thumbs up
WHEN we had our terms destroyed many years ago where were you for us ....... no where to be seen working shoving two fingers up
saying it dont affect us not our fight
we do everything that you dont want to do
we do sundays
we do bank holidays
we sometimes have to work over our times
we have impossible targets
now we have to join you in your battle .....in a battle where hgv drivers not hardly mentioned in these talks
we should be and need to be a separate unit end of
been in royal mail long enough and every single strike from 1980 to know the dinosaurs still want to make as much time as possible
them days have gone i dont like change it but hey times change.... go get a job outside rm im sure you wont moan then
like me i im sure you buy from amazon and EXPECT it before 10pm same or next day thats the way it is
back to vote ... vote no you get nothing its a s**t deal but its better than nothing the longer this drags on less chance of back pay
you will moan like fick then and who will replace ward and fury ??? some yes men no doubt
as for the profit sharing that wont happen loss making till 2025 new talks start then back in this position or worse

Jesus! Somebody take his belt and shoes laces off him!