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How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

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Do you agree with the deal?

Poll ended at 28 Apr 2023, 12:30

Yes
249
24%
No
788
76%
 
Total votes: 1037

jahbalon
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Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by jahbalon »

I'm voting for the deal It's the best deal we are going to get given all the circumstances.
We are not going to get a better deal.
It would be utter madness to vote against our own CWU recommendations, and would make postal workers look stupid.

The dire consequences of a no vote would be Royal Mail going into administration, and a 110,000 postal workers being on the dole, many with mortages and hire purchase cars to pay for.

We should vote to accept the deal, and protect the interests of our families and dependents.
Acca Dacca
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Post by Acca Dacca »

jahbalon wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 19:27
I'm voting for the deal It's the best deal we are going to get given all the circumstances.
We are not going to get a better deal.
It would be utter madness to vote against our own CWU recommendations, and would make postal workers look stupid.

The dire consequences of a no vote would be Royal Mail going into administration, and a 110,000 postal workers being on the dole, many with mortages and hire purchase cars to pay for.

We should vote to accept the deal, and protect the interests of our families and dependents.
:roll:
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
77SAMPOST77
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Post by 77SAMPOST77 »

jahbalon wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 19:27
I'm voting for the deal It's the best deal we are going to get given all the circumstances.
We are not going to get a better deal.
It would be utter madness to vote against our own CWU recommendations, and would make postal workers look stupid.

The dire consequences of a no vote would be Royal Mail going into administration, and a 110,000 postal workers being on the dole, many with mortages and hire purchase cars to pay for.

We should vote to accept the deal, and protect the interests of our families and dependents.
Utter nonsense , You will not be able to afford anything soon anyway if our wages do not keep with inflation ,
VOTE NO .
moonjaguar
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Post by moonjaguar »

jahbalon wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 19:27
I'm voting for the deal It's the best deal we are going to get given all the circumstances.
We are not going to get a better deal.
It would be utter madness to vote against our own CWU recommendations, and would make postal workers look stupid.

The dire consequences of a no vote would be Royal Mail going into administration, and a 110,000 postal workers being on the dole, many with mortages and hire purchase cars to pay for.

We should vote to accept the deal, and protect the interests of our families and dependents.
Bore off Mr Thompson you freak
49erman
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Joined: 18 Sep 2017, 13:18
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Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by 49erman »

jahbalon wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 19:27
I'm voting for the deal It's the best deal we are going to get given all the circumstances.
We are not going to get a better deal.
It would be utter madness to vote against our own CWU recommendations, and would make postal workers look stupid.

The dire consequences of a no vote would be Royal Mail going into administration, and a 110,000 postal workers being on the dole, many with mortages and hire purchase cars to pay for.

We should vote to accept the deal, and protect the interests of our families and dependents.
Posts 1 joined 53 minutes ago :left: :left: :left: :left: :left:
KennethBoon
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Gender: Male

Re: How are you voting on the deal?

Post by KennethBoon »

postman2014 wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 12:35
If the £1500 was on the table I would of voted yes. £500 is an insult to all those that lost money through the strikes. The changes ain't that bad considering the original proposal royal mail wanted. Think royal mail and the cwu have scored an own goal here!!
Absolute facts
Mungeys
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Post by Mungeys »

A man once wrote "unlimited change for unlimited pay" :cuppa
FilthyBloke
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Post by FilthyBloke »

77SAMPOST77 wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 19:35
jahbalon wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 19:27
I'm voting for the deal It's the best deal we are going to get given all the circumstances.
We are not going to get a better deal.
It would be utter madness to vote against our own CWU recommendations, and would make postal workers look stupid.

The dire consequences of a no vote would be Royal Mail going into administration, and a 110,000 postal workers being on the dole, many with mortages and hire purchase cars to pay for.

We should vote to accept the deal, and protect the interests of our families and dependents.
Utter nonsense , You will not be able to afford anything soon anyway if our wages do not keep with inflation ,
VOTE NO .
It was never going to keep up with inflation. 10% last year, 11% next year, whatever it the year after that….
How do Royal Mail find the money? Raise the costs of stamps and postage in general? That could lose business. Plus the energy bills and diesel are going up for Royal Mail as well. Shareholders protect their interests first. Sadly, we are run by shareholders.

This was the inevitable path the company was going to take once we sold out in 2012.
KennethBoon
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Post by KennethBoon »

I would have voted yes to 1500 as good out of bad situation. This deal is absolute disgrace
guardianangel
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Post by guardianangel »

CWU are you seeing this ,you absolute sell outs,get those ballot papers out now we dont need 2 weeks of your chit chat we have all worked you out, VOTE NO !!!!!
jahbalon
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Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by jahbalon »

Acca Dacca wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 19:32
jahbalon wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 19:27
I'm voting for the deal It's the best deal we are going to get given all the circumstances.
We are not going to get a better deal.
It would be utter madness to vote against our own CWU recommendations, and would make postal workers look stupid.

The dire consequences of a no vote would be Royal Mail going into administration, and a 110,000 postal workers being on the dole, many with mortages and hire purchase cars to pay for.

We should vote to accept the deal, and protect the interests of our families and dependents.
:roll:
What's wrong ? Cat got your tongue ?

Where's your gratitude for the CWU getting us a good deal. 10% salary rise, £500 lump sum. :dance

The agreement also includes a commitment to no compulsory redundancies and covers changes to sick pay, attendance standards, ill health retirement and revised contracts for new starters :cuppa

A Yes Vote is a No Brainer for posties :Applause
timbo1234
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Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by timbo1234 »

If this deal is rejected and RM do enter administration, there WILL BE NO PAY RISE AT ALL. I understand the feelings being expressed but the consequences for RM and CWU of a no vote could be catastrophic. It could result in massive job losses and RM being sold off . The CWU would not exist. It is a massive gamble to vote no. There is no guarantee that the government will take it back into public ownership and keep the current staff and T&Cs. I am voting yes so that the union and the members exist to fight another time.
Linden14
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Post by Linden14 »

No chance that will get voted in its disgusting
77SAMPOST77
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Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by 77SAMPOST77 »

jahbalon wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 20:01
Acca Dacca wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 19:32
jahbalon wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 19:27
I'm voting for the deal It's the best deal we are going to get given all the circumstances.
We are not going to get a better deal.
It would be utter madness to vote against our own CWU recommendations, and would make postal workers look stupid.

The dire consequences of a no vote would be Royal Mail going into administration, and a 110,000 postal workers being on the dole, many with mortages and hire purchase cars to pay for.

We should vote to accept the deal, and protect the interests of our families and dependents.
:roll:
What's wrong ? Cat got your tongue ?

Where's your gratitude for the CWU getting us a good deal. 10% salary rise, £500 lump sum. :dance

The agreement also includes a commitment to no compulsory redundancies and covers changes to sick pay, attendance standards, ill health retirement and revised contracts for new starters :cuppa

A Yes Vote is a No Brainer for posties :Applause
It is an awful deal , A no vote is a must .
sindba
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Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by sindba »

timbo1234 wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 20:01
If this deal is rejected and RM do enter administration, there WILL BE NO PAY RISE AT ALL. I understand the feelings being expressed but the consequences for RM and CWU of a no vote could be catastrophic. It could result in massive job losses and RM being sold off . The CWU would not exist. It is a massive gamble to vote no. There is no guarantee that the government will take it back into public ownership and keep the current staff and T&Cs. I am voting yes so that the union and the members exist to fight another time.
Vote for the crap deal and hope for a better one in the future, or RM might go bust.

Such a pathetic argument, but the only one that the CWU have got. Because there's nothing good about the deal itself.