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Summary of the proposed agreement

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Schiff
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Re: Summary of the proposed agreement

Post by Schiff »

britwrit wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:04
Everybody knows that our CEOs usually cut and run after a few years. But that bonus scheme and 5-year-leveling-up thing is top management giving notice. They won't be around to deal with it.
I think that you'll find that it is a 5 year levelling-down thing.
k979aaa
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Re: Summary of the proposed agreement

Post by k979aaa »

Schiff wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:31
britwrit wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:04
Everybody knows that our CEOs usually cut and run after a few years. But that bonus scheme and 5-year-leveling-up thing is top management giving notice. They won't be around to deal with it.
I think that you'll find that it is a 5 year levelling-down thing.
Well leveling up has gone well in the north of england we get 25% of the transport funds and f**k all else what a deal and some twats sill vote for them!
FilthyBloke
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Re: Summary of the proposed agreement

Post by FilthyBloke »

SSkUNkY wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 16:10
The Union should negotiate a deal for Union members ONLY, the strike breakers and non-union members should have whatever RM gives them.
I agree. Let me have option B and you can stay as you are until dave ward does something useful.
parforthewalk
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Re: Summary of the proposed agreement

Post by parforthewalk »

hawkeye622 wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:08
SSkUNkY wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 16:10
The Union should negotiate a deal for Union members ONLY, the strike breakers and non-union members should have whatever RM gives them.
What a pathetic comment! I never broke a strike but don't certainly dont hold any resentment for the guys & girls that did. Get a life!!!
Why is it a pathetic comment?
He's perfectly entitled to his own opinion.

I dare say that there are very many who feel the same.

You obviously disagree & you feel it's your right to diss him?
At least he has the courage to speak up!

How would you feel if 'the shoe was on the other foot'?
chrisj
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Re: Summary of the proposed agreement

Post by chrisj »

There was a 3.5% and a £500 for successful Revision that would have been payable from April 2022 without the CWU... And that probably would have been for 1 year and if I recall, another 1.5% for 2023/2024.

The CWU have only moved Royal Mail a little bit, save for securing Allowances (for a few) and what else?

Thanks to the CWU for nothing!
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redlen
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Re: Summary of the proposed agreement

Post by redlen »

parforthewalk wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:53
hawkeye622 wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:08
SSkUNkY wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 16:10
The Union should negotiate a deal for Union members ONLY, the strike breakers and non-union members should have whatever RM gives them.
What a pathetic comment! I never broke a strike but don't certainly dont hold any resentment for the guys & girls that did. Get a life!!!
Why is it a pathetic comment?
He's perfectly entitled to his own opinion.

I dare say that there are very many who feel the same.

You obviously disagree & you feel it's your right to diss him?
At least he has the courage to speak up!

How would you feel if 'the shoe was on the other foot'?

For a start membership of a trade union is not compulsory. Thatcher ended the principle of a closed shop years ago.

What is being suggested is indirect discrimination treating one employee less favorable than another. So yes a rather erroneous comment from the OP with a lack of foresight as contrary to law. A trade Union has no powers over the law that will not even recognize membership
k979aaa
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Re: Summary of the proposed agreement

Post by k979aaa »

redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 18:01
parforthewalk wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:53
hawkeye622 wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:08
SSkUNkY wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 16:10
The Union should negotiate a deal for Union members ONLY, the strike breakers and non-union members should have whatever RM gives them.
What a pathetic comment! I never broke a strike but don't certainly dont hold any resentment for the guys & girls that did. Get a life!!!
Why is it a pathetic comment?
He's perfectly entitled to his own opinion.

I dare say that there are very many who feel the same.

You obviously disagree & you feel it's your right to diss him?
At least he has the courage to speak up!

How would you feel if 'the shoe was on the other foot'?

For a start membership of a trade union is not compulsory. Thatcher ended the principle of a closed shop years ago.

What is being suggested is indirect discrimination treating one employee less favorable than another. So yes a rather erroneous comment from the OP with a lack of foresight as contrary to law. A trade Union has no powers over the law that will not even recognize membership
Personally would rather RM did not go down this path but it did and recruitment will be far harder now. BTW are you doing the Sunday shift
Halfhappy
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Re: Summary of the proposed agreement

Post by Halfhappy »

k979aaa wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:34
Schiff wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:31
britwrit wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:04
Everybody knows that our CEOs usually cut and run after a few years. But that bonus scheme and 5-year-leveling-up thing is top management giving notice. They won't be around to deal with it.
I think that you'll find that it is a 5 year levelling-down thing.
Well leveling up has gone well in the north of england we get 25% of the transport funds and f**k all else what a deal and some twats sill vote for them!
Hey, that's not fair... They're gonna let us go and work back down coal mines. Can't wait! :thumbup
sindba
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Re: Summary of the proposed agreement

Post by sindba »

Just look at those "flexibility", "indoor trials" and "performance management" sections. As well as "new attendance stadards".

Sinister as f***. Unless they clarify what they mean, we just cannot accept this.
Ianroyalmail
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Re: Summary of the proposed agreement

Post by Ianroyalmail »

POSTMAN wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 12:10
For info.

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Also no one's mentioned that sick pay has basically been gutted.

The first period of sickness you'll get full sick pay.

But any other instance of sickness you'll receive no money for the first 3 days of any sickness in the next 12 months.

So basically you won't get paid for any short term sickness.
k979aaa
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Re: Summary of the proposed agreement

Post by k979aaa »

Ianroyalmail wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 18:41
POSTMAN wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 12:10
For info.

1.jpg

2.jpg
Also no one's mentioned that sick pay has basically been gutted.

The first period of sickness you'll get full sick pay.

But any other instance of sickness you'll receive no money for the first 3 days of any sickness in the next 12 months.

So basically you won't get paid for any short term sickness.
IHR as well
Not to mention the new contracts levelling up more like down ie any postman/woman who votes for this is enesscne voting for themselves to be on a minimum wage in 5 years! Think on while you think life is difficult now see the future and open your own eyes!
SSkUNkY
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Re: Summary of the proposed agreement

Post by SSkUNkY »

Notice I said 'should', not 'will' or 'can', perhaps basic reading comprehension isn't a strong point in FilthyLens repertoire of habitual lies and misinformation.

Regardless, karma will catch up to the parasites one day, it always does.
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milly
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Re: Summary of the proposed agreement

Post by milly »

SSkUNkY wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 18:55
Karma will catch up to the parasites one day, it always does.
When will this happen?
The parasites as you call them are not your colleagues, they are the Central Banks, Big Corporations and the ruling classes who do their bidding.
Too many people fall for the divide and conquer routine, thereby letting the perpetrators fleece us whilst going unnoticed.
SSkUNkY
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Re: Summary of the proposed agreement

Post by SSkUNkY »

Too many willing to let others bear the brunt as they reap the benefits while misguided people defend them.
SMS1969
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Re: Summary of the proposed agreement

Post by SMS1969 »

Ianroyalmail wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 18:41
POSTMAN wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 12:10
For info.

1.jpg

2.jpg
Also no one's mentioned that sick pay has basically been gutted.

The first period of sickness you'll get full sick pay.

But any other instance of sickness you'll receive no money for the first 3 days of any sickness in the next 12 months.

So basically you won't get paid for any short term sickness.
It’s been happening in the private sector for years. Will stop the piss takers, won’t help the genuine cases.