Divisional Reps, Branch officers and Area Reps have been updated on the current state of national talks. It has been reported that RM have moved partly towards an acceptable agreement.
We have the basis of an independent review of all conduct cases during IA agreed, the CWU wants this to include scrutiny of the role of managers.
The Board of RM meet on Wednesday to prepare for an audit of the business finances before statements to the market on 17th May. They need to decide then whether they would rather face administration or an agreement for change with the CWU.
The situation is serious. The leadership of Thompson and his crew have brought RM to the brink of collapse. The priority of the CWU will be to protect an defend members whatever the outcome.
A meeting of the Postal Executive on Tuesday will reflect feedback from Reps and members. It will consider serving notice for industrial action.
Unity at this time is crucial.
Industrial action at a time when the union admits that the current financial situation and administration is a possibility ….well it’s just ludicrous. If the situation and the company are in such peril any strike will make it worse.
I’d like to see what deal they are willing to offer at the minute.
If the situation is that dire then strikes or no strikes wont make a scrap of difference. No bank will lend money to a business that has been deliberately led down a path to administration. The board and all senior managers will have to resign before anything happens. Then the administrator will try to salvage what remains. You seem to be saying that we the workforce or the CWU are to blame for this debacle. Is that your view?
No. The management and CEO should go, in my opinion.
My point is that during this dispute the CWU has resorted to silly tweets and slogans which have turned it into a playground fight.
I think both sides have wound the other one up but when you need to be the better man you don’t lower your standards.
The strikes in the past felt like a proper battle. You knew what was happening. This last year has felt like a pantomime.
It’s one of the reasons a lot of offices are toxic. The posters and notice boards are full of things like “a storm is coming” and implying that the managers are basically the anti christ. That the company is always against us.
You don’t think that perhaps it might have something to do with bullying managers, unworkable revisions and being treated as the enemy by RM? This toxic atmosphere you mention?
Yes. No doubt that’s another reason. Probably the main reason. But the CWU, in my opinion, need to stop pointing at the company as if it’s our enemy. It’s why every change seems to be met with resistance. A good union works with the company. Right now; I think the union have got to stop with the empty slogans and insults and pointless tweets. If anything it’ll make the resolve of the management even greater.
A good Union was working with the company under the pathway to change agreement. The company then decided it didn't want to work with the Union and started imposing executive action, and this is where we are now. The problem is not the Union.
Toxic management is endemic in RM and seams to be apparent on here In all it forms what a s**t company this is when they pay people to have an opinion on a separate work related forum. SAD that we have these criminals amongst us all but there you go telling us it is the unions fault but all of them don't have a leg to stand on by themselves and that includes managers!
The real news is they got 432 likes, one w****r smilie, 2 thumbs up, 24 thumbs down, 6 coffee cup gifs, and one bright spark posted a picture of a Partridge, not in a tree tho.
Chris Webb turned his cam off halfway through as he was knocking one out because of the massive figures.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been. My BFF Clash The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
Filthy Bloke always forgets that all this was deliberately started by Royal Mail.The union have not covered themselves in glory but it was a fight that they/we could not win.Royal mail will take administration as a win.I would think they will get the letters USO reduced and get to start again with a workforce on worse Ts and Cs and no union of any substance.This was always the end game.Remember the whiteboard slogan (at)"TACK the CWU" This company have head long attacked its own workforce in a shameful way.
Filthy Bloke always forgets that all this was deliberately started by Royal Mail.The union have not covered themselves in glory but it was a fight that they/we could not win.Royal mail will take administration as a win.I would think they will get the letters USO reduced and get to start again with a workforce on worse Ts and Cs and no union of any substance.This was always the end game.Remember the whiteboard slogan (at)"TACK the CWU" This company have head long attacked its own workforce in a shameful way.
I have no doubt that RM have a lot to answer for…
But you’re right, the union could not win. And they knew that from the moment when the Black Friday strikes happened and RM didn’t flinch.
After that the union didn’t really have a game plan. Any deal now will be a poor one. If we get one at all. I’m not sure if the CWU knew the financial issues when it demanded a 10% no strings pay raise (and at the same time ripping up the old agreement and allowing RM to steam roller changes through). But they should have found out before they announced it. All they have down now is trap themselves in a corner.
Filthy Bloke always forgets that all this was deliberately started by Royal Mail.The union have not covered themselves in glory but it was a fight that they/we could not win.Royal mail will take administration as a win.I would think they will get the letters USO reduced and get to start again with a workforce on worse Ts and Cs and no union of any substance.This was always the end game.Remember the whiteboard slogan (at)"TACK the CWU" This company have head long attacked its own workforce in a shameful way.
And the workforce is it's only asset left management can not run a bath!
Filthy Bloke always forgets that all this was deliberately started by Royal Mail.The union have not covered themselves in glory but it was a fight that they/we could not win.Royal mail will take administration as a win.I would think they will get the letters USO reduced and get to start again with a workforce on worse Ts and Cs and no union of any substance.This was always the end game.Remember the whiteboard slogan (at)"TACK the CWU" This company have head long attacked its own workforce in a shameful way.
I have no doubt that RM have a lot to answer for…
But you’re right, the union could not win. And they knew that from the moment when the Black Friday strikes happened and RM didn’t flinch.
After that the union didn’t really have a game plan. Any deal now will be a poor one. If we get one at all. I’m not sure if the CWU knew the financial issues when it demanded a 10% no strings pay raise (and at the same time ripping up the old agreement and allowing RM to steam roller changes through). But they should have found out before they announced it. All they have down now is trap themselves in a corner.
It's Royal Mail who have now trapped themselves into a corner. They have two options.... Move more towards the Union or go into administration.
Forget what people say on here. 18 days of strikes have been crippling to Royal Mail and it's their turn to throw the dice.
I have no doubt that RM have a lot to answer for…
But you’re right, the union could not win. And they knew that from the moment when the Black Friday strikes happened and RM didn’t flinch.
After that the union didn’t really have a game plan. Any deal now will be a poor one. If we get one at all. I’m not sure if the CWU knew the financial issues when it demanded a 10% no strings pay raise (and at the same time ripping up the old agreement and allowing RM to steam roller changes through). But they should have found out before they announced it. All they have down now is trap themselves in a corner.
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Royal Mail provoked the union in to the strike ballot by enforcing the 2% wage rise.The union could not be seen to just let that happen and RM knew that. The way in which RM have gone about this is dispicable.But you constantly berate the union.CWU were between a rock and a hard place.RM have signed up to joint statements with little intention to honour them.They will get there way one way or the other.
I have no doubt that RM have a lot to answer for…
But you’re right, the union could not win. And they knew that from the moment when the Black Friday strikes happened and RM didn’t flinch.
After that the union didn’t really have a game plan. Any deal now will be a poor one. If we get one at all. I’m not sure if the CWU knew the financial issues when it demanded a 10% no strings pay raise (and at the same time ripping up the old agreement and allowing RM to steam roller changes through). But they should have found out before they announced it. All they have down now is trap themselves in a corner.
Royal Mail provoked the union in to the strike ballot by enforcing the 2% wage rise.The union could not be seen to just let that happen and RM knew that. The way in which RM have gone about this is dispicable.But you constantly berate the union.CWU were between a rock and a hard place.RM have signed up to joint statements with little intention to honour them.They will get there way one way or the other.
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That’s what I’m saying. Royal Mail will get their way. Everything they do is a trap, in a sense. And the CWU can’t really do much now.
Thompson and his mob have destroyed Royal Mail with their greed, arrogance and stupidity.
We should strike and strike hard. It would be nothing more than a nail in the coffin.
If the only way the company survives is to turm us into deliveroo style modern slaves - then we're just as well working for deliveroo.
Strike. Burn the bastards. Enough is enough.
I'd rather lose my job then end a deliveroo postie,enough is enough,major shareholders will be sh----g themselves this week all because of their chosen top table and their greed have f---ed up the company,im so angry with it all i'd love to see the whole thing come crashing down and watch this Tory government having to come in and prop it up,whatever the outcome i will never lose my dignity and bow down to these scumbags, if you fight you won't always win,but if you don't fight you will always lose─don't fear your jobs guys the working class will always find work just look at the hundreds that have left already,on a brighter note think of all those dimdoms (ex posties with no qualifications)they ain't ever going find jobs on those salaries again,couldn't happen to a nicer bunch
Divisional Reps, Branch officers and Area Reps have been updated on the current state of national talks. It has been reported that RM have moved partly towards an acceptable agreement.
We have the basis of an independent review of all conduct cases during IA agreed, the CWU wants this to include scrutiny of the role of managers.
The Board of RM meet on Wednesday to prepare for an audit of the business finances before statements to the market on 17th May. They need to decide then whether they would rather face administration or an agreement for change with the CWU.
The situation is serious. The leadership of Thompson and his crew have brought RM to the brink of collapse. The priority of the CWU will be to protect an defend members whatever the outcome.
A meeting of the Postal Executive on Tuesday will reflect feedback from Reps and members. It will consider serving notice for industrial action.
Unity at this time is crucial.
How can we go on strike if they go to administration?
Divisional Reps, Branch officers and Area Reps have been updated on the current state of national talks. It has been reported that RM have moved partly towards an acceptable agreement.
We have the basis of an independent review of all conduct cases during IA agreed, the CWU wants this to include scrutiny of the role of managers.
The Board of RM meet on Wednesday to prepare for an audit of the business finances before statements to the market on 17th May. They need to decide then whether they would rather face administration or an agreement for change with the CWU.
The situation is serious. The leadership of Thompson and his crew have brought RM to the brink of collapse. The priority of the CWU will be to protect an defend members whatever the outcome.
A meeting of the Postal Executive on Tuesday will reflect feedback from Reps and members. It will consider serving notice for industrial action.
Unity at this time is crucial.
How can we go on strike if they go to administration?
