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Update sort of.

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Rommagic
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Post by Rommagic »

Traffic is not down council tax and mother's day.
Cucumber
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Post by Cucumber »

Turn the lights off.

It's done.
FilthyBloke
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Post by FilthyBloke »

weary_posty wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 18:07
Very disheartening. We were told to give the CWU the mandate… we have TWICE.
Each video update is the “most important update of this dispute” yet all we hear is bloviation and no real detail.

It’s been over a year now… 18 days, overtime cut & revisions forced through. For what?

Talks, more talks, some more talks, talks talks talks!

I can never and never did cross a picket line but I can no longer hold judgment to those who did because what exactly has our solidarity achieved?
Well thanks for not holding judgment!
Personally I never thought it was going to end well. Once you could see RM not budging it was clear they weren’t going to back down. And the CWU with their one day strikes here and there and then cancelling strikes last minute and the constant rhetoric was just prolonging the inevitable.
Numberone63
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Post by Numberone63 »

P O P P Y C O C K
P. O. P. P. Y. C. O. C. K!!!!!!!!!!
Kenfandango
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Post by Kenfandango »

chickenwittle wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 17:49
Kenfandango wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 17:44
"stand by each other"
Our DO is back to "every postie for themselves," some fighting over overtime, others dragging their heels as much as possible and hindering everyone else who just wants to do the job and go home
What do you mean hindering everyone? Is your start and finish time not the same as others or are you trying to finish early?
I mean... (And this is 3 of the 5 people I've worked with this week) refusing to help with sorting, taking their 20 minute break in office despite taking at least 30 mins of "just having a fag/ just grabbing a coffee/ just chatting to so and so" breaks while expecting someone else to put their work in, then doing the bare minimum when out (finishing a walk and having a ciggie for 5 minutes each loop, cutting off 40 minutes early and driving the scenic route back with a bunch of undelivered mail and packets that definitely could have been finished in time and still left time for a break)
I fully get the "don't give them an inch" attitude, but if you're deliberately bringing work you could have finished back for the next day to "prove a point," you're only really messing up yourself the next morning. Royal Mail make the job unnecessarily difficult as it is, don't make it worse
needadvice
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Post by needadvice »

Rommagic wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 17:57
More talks as rm money gets worse.
Haha yes. "We are going to continue to talk, but please be aware, as we continue to talk, RM's finances get worse by the day"
Chitchat
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Post by Chitchat »

I honestly can't see us ever getting a deal while this current management are in charge! They have their own agenda which isn't one that ends well for us, if they succeed.

If the USO means so much to the government maybe it's time they stepped up and either bring royalmail back into public ownership. Or subsidised it. As the current management doesn't seem to understand that if you want to own royalmail it comes with a commitment to run the USO and not cherry pick the bits you like.
FilthyBloke
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Post by FilthyBloke »

Kenfandango wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 18:38
chickenwittle wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 17:49
Kenfandango wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 17:44
"stand by each other"
Our DO is back to "every postie for themselves," some fighting over overtime, others dragging their heels as much as possible and hindering everyone else who just wants to do the job and go home
What do you mean hindering everyone? Is your start and finish time not the same as others or are you trying to finish early?
I mean... (And this is 3 of the 5 people I've worked with this week) refusing to help with sorting, taking their 20 minute break in office despite taking at least 30 mins of "just having a fag/ just grabbing a coffee/ just chatting to so and so" breaks while expecting someone else to put their work in, then doing the bare minimum when out (finishing a walk and having a ciggie for 5 minutes each loop, cutting off 40 minutes early and driving the scenic route back with a bunch of undelivered mail and packets that definitely could have been finished in time and still left time for a break)
I fully get the "don't give them an inch" attitude, but if you're deliberately bringing work you could have finished back for the next day to "prove a point," you're only really messing up yourself the next morning. Royal Mail make the job unnecessarily difficult as it is, don't make it worse
This is why I laughed when people questioned why I didn’t stand in ‘solidarity’ with them.
needadvice
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Post by needadvice »

Chitchat wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 18:40
I honestly can't see us ever getting a deal while this current management are in charge! They have their own agenda which isn't one that ends well for us, if they succeed.
It may end badly for us, but it can also end badly for them aswell
sixfoottwo
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Post by sixfoottwo »

Kenfandango wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 18:38
chickenwittle wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 17:49
Kenfandango wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 17:44
"stand by each other"
Our DO is back to "every postie for themselves," some fighting over overtime, others dragging their heels as much as possible and hindering everyone else who just wants to do the job and go home
What do you mean hindering everyone? Is your start and finish time not the same as others or are you trying to finish early?
I mean... (And this is 3 of the 5 people I've worked with this week) refusing to help with sorting, taking their 20 minute break in office despite taking at least 30 mins of "just having a fag/ just grabbing a coffee/ just chatting to so and so" breaks while expecting someone else to put their work in, then doing the bare minimum when out (finishing a walk and having a ciggie for 5 minutes each loop, cutting off 40 minutes early and driving the scenic route back with a bunch of undelivered mail and packets that definitely could have been finished in time and still left time for a break)
I fully get the "don't give them an inch" attitude, but if you're deliberately bringing work you could have finished back for the next day to "prove a point," you're only really messing up yourself the next morning. Royal Mail make the job unnecessarily difficult as it is, don't make it worse
Why's that? I don't get this bit.
arsenalbob
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Post by arsenalbob »

Clappedoutpostie wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 17:55
aiden01 wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 17:52
My own opinion any more strikes a were all done for.
Call them and see if it focuses their minds. It’s been s**t or bust time for a while anyway, let’s just get on with it.
Yes. But not just 1 or 2 days. A week at a time once a month. Might make them smell the coffee. The firm’s a joke.
Shadedpostie
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Post by Shadedpostie »

needadvice wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 18:38
Rommagic wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 17:57
More talks as rm money gets worse.
Haha yes. "We are going to continue to talk, but please be aware, as we continue to talk, RM's finances get worse by the day"
Just drumming it into our heads that this pay deal is going to be dogshit without saying it out loud :arrrghhh
Shadedpostie
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Post by Shadedpostie »

sixfoottwo wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 18:44
Kenfandango wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 18:38
chickenwittle wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 17:49
Kenfandango wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 17:44
"stand by each other"
Our DO is back to "every postie for themselves," some fighting over overtime, others dragging their heels as much as possible and hindering everyone else who just wants to do the job and go home
What do you mean hindering everyone? Is your start and finish time not the same as others or are you trying to finish early?
I mean... (And this is 3 of the 5 people I've worked with this week) refusing to help with sorting, taking their 20 minute break in office despite taking at least 30 mins of "just having a fag/ just grabbing a coffee/ just chatting to so and so" breaks while expecting someone else to put their work in, then doing the bare minimum when out (finishing a walk and having a ciggie for 5 minutes each loop, cutting off 40 minutes early and driving the scenic route back with a bunch of undelivered mail and packets that definitely could have been finished in time and still left time for a break)
I fully get the "don't give them an inch" attitude, but if you're deliberately bringing work you could have finished back for the next day to "prove a point," you're only really messing up yourself the next morning. Royal Mail make the job unnecessarily difficult as it is, don't make it worse
Why's that? I don't get this bit.
Think what they mean is they still would have to take it back out the next morning only this time it would be double mail.
carlosevenos
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Post by carlosevenos »

So disappointed with the Union and of course royal mail. For weeks the union have given us false hope that a deal may be close, and we're at square one still. Also they keep spouting bullshit like, "win the ballot, win the dispute". We won the ballot, and are no closer to a deal. Just keep getting people's hopes up, and deluding members to the truth.
roman
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Post by roman »

Why can’t they just get the deal done while addressing the revisions and suspensions. Surely if there’s an agreement in place then the reps should be able to discuss with managers how to approach wrong doings and future revisions.If not then where does it all end.The suspended workers should be legally protected if they haven’t done anything wrong. For pities sake can we just get on with it.