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CWU - We have just spoken to @DaveWardGS - revisions are being halted across the UK and if this is unagreed it will be too. Speak to your branch asap.

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SpacePhoenix
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Re: CWU - We have just spoken to @DaveWardGS - revisions are being halted across the UK and if this is unagreed it will be too. Speak to your branch asap.

Post by SpacePhoenix »

clashcityrocker wrote:
06 Mar 2023, 20:06
SpacePhoenix wrote:
06 Mar 2023, 19:39

I'd give it 6 months tops before the oversize go back to the walks
We have had them for over 18 months now.
There is no suggestion that they are going back to the walks.
Some people have posted that the oversize have gone back to the walks in their DOs
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Post by CamPostie »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
06 Mar 2023, 19:39
CamPostie wrote:
06 Mar 2023, 19:30
Add to this the fact that the oversized will be delivered by someone else - that’s now five employees serving that area rather than one!
I'd give it 6 months tops before the oversize go back to the walks
Given the end of that 6 months would land right before peak… I expect you’re right! 😂
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Post by CamPostie »

theotherone wrote:
06 Mar 2023, 19:56
The things is DPR are nothing new.They were in the Original blueprints for the last failed revisions.
So ours in came 14 months ago they lasted 3 weeks.
Not enough staff to actually do the DPR's so were lapsed on a Monday,Tues and Sat in 'lighter months'
If not you could claim 1 and a half hours OT to do them with your duty.
Sometimes if it was in heavy periods a Saturday could be job and knock if you took them.
Sounds like your managers still had some freedom to manage locally to their requirements - like ours had and we’re somehow getting a delivery office to function well despite having 70 odd vacancies.

But this latest revision has clearly been forced through, with no real rhyme, reason or basic logic behind it - even our direct managers know it’s a farce.
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Post by P13 »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
06 Mar 2023, 19:39
CamPostie wrote:
06 Mar 2023, 19:30
Add to this the fact that the oversized will be delivered by someone else - that’s now five employees serving that area rather than one!
I'd give it 6 months tops before the oversize go back to the walks
You posted in another thread it would be 3 months tops
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Post by postieblueshirt »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
06 Mar 2023, 20:13
clashcityrocker wrote:
06 Mar 2023, 20:06
SpacePhoenix wrote:
06 Mar 2023, 19:39

I'd give it 6 months tops before the oversize go back to the walks
We have had them for over 18 months now.
There is no suggestion that they are going back to the walks.
Some people have posted that the oversize have gone back to the walks in their DOs
Ours never left still haven't either with this new fuc* up...sorry revision
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Post by sixfoottwo »

We used to have DPR but that was axed a month or so back, oversize gone to walks now resulting in senior posties either quitting or being left a spare, joke to be honest.

We have just had a further revision forced in last Monday resulting in walks having an extra 45mins or so added for the lapsed/collapsed walks whatever you want to call it making it an absolute farce, total joke now.

Quiet quitting is a great term, which I am now getting to know well seeing as we cut off literally a full walk a day now :dance
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Post by fredtheegg »

Revision still seems to be going through in our MC, increased amount of VR’s on all shifts. Majority of staff now supernumerary.. 40 year senior staff asking the manager if they carry in with a Monday to Friday night shift being told those hours no longer exist.

They are then forced to pick 3 x 12hr shifts, 2 weeks later staff with 3 years service are being offered plum Mon - Fri nights. How does that happen when none are available
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Post by foxtrot223 »

Our revision is coming in soon. My duty finishes 30mins from the office, the manager is trying to give me 30mins extra as he say's the 30mins journey time back to the office is not part of my duty and the van should be returned in my own time.
I'm not happy about it as I thought all return times were included in the duty time.
Can anyone advise.
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Post by Nickvilla20 »

foxtrot223 wrote:
07 Mar 2023, 15:29
Our revision is coming in soon. My duty finishes 30mins from the office, the manager is trying to give me 30mins extra as he say's the 30mins journey time back to the office is not part of my duty and the van should be returned in my own time.
I'm not happy about it as I thought all return times were included in the duty time.
Can anyone advise.
Yet again your manager is wrong and is trying it on. Travel time is included in the duty.
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Post by pieoftheday »

Nickvilla20 wrote:
07 Mar 2023, 15:34
foxtrot223 wrote:
07 Mar 2023, 15:29
Our revision is coming in soon. My duty finishes 30mins from the office, the manager is trying to give me 30mins extra as he say's the 30mins journey time back to the office is not part of my duty and the van should be returned in my own time.
I'm not happy about it as I thought all return times were included in the duty time.
Can anyone advise.
Yet again your manager is wrong and is trying it on. Travel time is included in the duty.
Exactly, what a tit that manager must be
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Post by guardianangel »

News coming out of the dimdoms office today is all revisions frozen until union agreement.Its probably good for them too imagine the s**t flying their way when we are bring back 5 to 6 loops a day,a close by office went live last week and they have all been bringing back half their walks ,its total chaos there ,actually worse than when they were striking :dance :d'oh! :crazy: :Very Happy :Very Happy
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Post by foxtrot223 »

Thank you, I thought it was but wasn't sure.
Now to have a quiet word with the manager.
Cheers :thumbup
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Post by nightcrawler »

foxtrot223 wrote:
07 Mar 2023, 15:43
Thank you, I thought it was but wasn't sure.
Now to have a quiet word with the manager.
Cheers :thumbup
You may wanna have your union rep with you, just in case. Or at least do it on a day when your union rep is in.
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Post by foxtrot223 »

Will do, thank you. 👍
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Post by Barnacle »

RM are completely ignoring the agreement to suspend revisions and are steaming ahead with them.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’