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SpacePhoenix
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Re: Super hubs

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Jb1969 wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 23:31
ThomasSimon wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 20:27
We have been told when the super hub in Crick is operational that our over size will arrive pre sorted into Yorkes in the correct duties either for the new parcel duties or current duties cutting out the need for manual sorting in our delivery office.
Our re-sign is complete with new later start times and we go live before end of March.
11 rounds lost with more parcel duties added to existing ones and all the lost rounds delivery points shared out across the office and added to all our frames.
Pre sorted, seriously.
Just how many extra Yorks would that require the 600 drivers to deliver!
The only way that it'd work is if the packets were sorted into sacks. Large will just be sorted down to office level, if they arrived at the inward MC sorted to walk level, they'll just get condensed down into mixed yorks, iirc a 600 can hold a maximum of 9 yorks (might be 12). like the large, if the if the small arrived at the inward MC already sorted to walk level in sleeves, the sleeves will be condensed. Whatever way you look at it unless it comes through in sacks, the DOs will still have to sort it
guardianangel
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Re: Super hubs

Post by guardianangel »

Doesn't matter for the postie,i'll still go out with 100's of small packets a day,will have no impact on my delivery as i dont take large packets now because my delivery is so big already.
zipmeister
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Re: Super hubs

Post by zipmeister »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
15 Jan 2023, 08:02
Jb1969 wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 23:31
ThomasSimon wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 20:27
We have been told when the super hub in Crick is operational that our over size will arrive pre sorted into Yorkes in the correct duties either for the new parcel duties or current duties cutting out the need for manual sorting in our delivery office.
Our re-sign is complete with new later start times and we go live before end of March.
11 rounds lost with more parcel duties added to existing ones and all the lost rounds delivery points shared out across the office and added to all our frames.
Pre sorted, seriously.
Just how many extra Yorks would that require the 600 drivers to deliver!
The only way that it'd work is if the packets were sorted into sacks. Large will just be sorted down to office level, if they arrived at the inward MC sorted to walk level, they'll just get condensed down into mixed yorks, iirc a 600 can hold a maximum of 9 yorks (might be 12). like the large, if the if the small arrived at the inward MC already sorted to walk level in sleeves, the sleeves will be condensed. Whatever way you look at it unless it comes through in sacks, the DOs will still have to sort it
They were meant to be cross docked in yorks at the mail centres then broken down into walks at the Delivery office hubs .
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Super hubs

Post by SpacePhoenix »

zipmeister wrote:
15 Jan 2023, 10:12
SpacePhoenix wrote:
15 Jan 2023, 08:02
Jb1969 wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 23:31
ThomasSimon wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 20:27
We have been told when the super hub in Crick is operational that our over size will arrive pre sorted into Yorkes in the correct duties either for the new parcel duties or current duties cutting out the need for manual sorting in our delivery office.
Our re-sign is complete with new later start times and we go live before end of March.
11 rounds lost with more parcel duties added to existing ones and all the lost rounds delivery points shared out across the office and added to all our frames.
Pre sorted, seriously.
Just how many extra Yorks would that require the 600 drivers to deliver!
The only way that it'd work is if the packets were sorted into sacks. Large will just be sorted down to office level, if they arrived at the inward MC sorted to walk level, they'll just get condensed down into mixed yorks, iirc a 600 can hold a maximum of 9 yorks (might be 12). like the large, if the if the small arrived at the inward MC already sorted to walk level in sleeves, the sleeves will be condensed. Whatever way you look at it unless it comes through in sacks, the DOs will still have to sort it
They were meant to be cross docked in yorks at the mail centres then broken down into walks at the Delivery office hubs .
AFAIK that's been abandoned as I believe that it all comes in to be sorted, with some yorks just need 1 scan for the whole york but still need sorting. We don't seem to get any primary or secondary sort anymore
midegarelu
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Re: Super hubs

Post by midegarelu »

The whole idea behind SUPER HUBS is that all mail (small and large packets) is collected from a huge area and is then processed down to DO level.

This then arrives at a local Mail Centre to be cross docked for delivery to local DO's or LOCAL HUBS.

Eventually, when to software catches up, the York will be scanned on arrival at local Mail Centres and DO's (so no need for individual receipt and despatch scanning) to provide coverage for the Tracked System which enables the sender and receiver to follow the package.

The savings from this will be huge, hence the reason why they are rolling them out with speed. :chuckle :chuckle

It will never be walk sorted for time and logistical reasons.
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broughts
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Re: Super hubs

Post by broughts »

A 600 which is a 740 can take between 15 and 21 yorks so could easily accommodate depending on how many runs has into dely office at the moment there will be no need for all the different selections eg large tracked etc as will all go into one sleeve just hope the sorting is up to scratch because if anything like sequence after revision be a lot of missorts
Binsey
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Re: Super hubs

Post by Binsey »

All RM are going to do is only accept Small Parcels.
Medium Parcels are going to Parcelforce

Think out the box RM are.

Are we?
funkflex55
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Re: Super hubs

Post by funkflex55 »

If parcelforce take all the medium and large parcels does that mean royal mail become a letters company again or will they become a small parcel company?! It needs to happen if they continue to cut back hours and extend walks in offices. The large parcels are gradually going on to walks in my office and all it's doing is making it impossible to do do all the mail.
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Re: Super hubs

Post by lobsterhands »

As from last Monday the 8 duties that were taking over sized packets in our office ceased and duties are taking them. The duty holders of the parcel duties well kicked off as now they are just floats / spares the Com called this “ constructive lapsing “
It’s added 1 plus hours onto deliveries so that means more being brought back …
Trumanity
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Re: Super hubs

Post by Trumanity »

TopperGas wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 20:05
Clappedoutpostie wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 19:36
77SAMPOST77 wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 18:30
kazardaimenu wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 17:52
So who’s delivering all these then?
owner drivers , The vacancies are already on the royal mail website ,
Welcome to the new evri .
Do u have a link?
I doubt it as I've never seen them advertised.
https://jobs.royalmailgroup.com/go/Driv ... lsrc=aw.ds
sixfoottwo
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Re: Super hubs

Post by sixfoottwo »

lobsterhands wrote:
15 Jan 2023, 16:08
As from last Monday the 8 duties that were taking over sized packets in our office ceased and duties are taking them. The duty holders of the parcel duties well kicked off as now they are just floats / spares the Com called this “ constructive lapsing “
It’s added 1 plus hours onto deliveries so that means more being brought back …
Very similar to our office.

Ive got one of those affected starting with next week, he's not happy and neither am I as he's shall we say a little out of shape as he's not done a delivery in years!
DirtyHarry
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Re: Super hubs

Post by DirtyHarry »

Super hubs!

Super shite, more like.
77SAMPOST77
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Re: Super hubs

Post by 77SAMPOST77 »

TopperGas wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 20:05
Clappedoutpostie wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 19:36
77SAMPOST77 wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 18:30
kazardaimenu wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 17:52
So who’s delivering all these then?
owner drivers , The vacancies are already on the royal mail website ,
Welcome to the new evri .
Do u have a link?
I doubt it as I've never seen them advertised.
Type in your computer jobs,royalmailgroup,com and the advert is on the 1st page , owner drivers required .
P13
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Re: Super hubs

Post by P13 »

77SAMPOST77 wrote:
15 Jan 2023, 18:14
TopperGas wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 20:05
Clappedoutpostie wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 19:36
77SAMPOST77 wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 18:30
kazardaimenu wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 17:52
So who’s delivering all these then?
owner drivers , The vacancies are already on the royal mail website ,
Welcome to the new evri .
Do u have a link?
I doubt it as I've never seen them advertised.
Type in your computer jobs,royalmailgroup,com and the advert is on the 1st page , owner drivers required .
They seem to be for parcelforce, they have had owner drivers for years
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Basildon Bond
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Re: Super hubs

Post by Basildon Bond »

ParcelForce owner driver equals...

- Buy the van (£1000s)
- Self-employed (tax/ self-accessment etc.)
- Van insurance, maintanance, running costs, etc.
- £1 ish per packet per successful delivery (customer being out isn't paid). £1 could be bartered down during contract signing.
- Have to explain and demo for your plans for being unavailable due to:
-- (a) vehicle failure
-- (b) sickness
-- (c) holidays
...basically you need a buddy.

Still... it seems almost twice the price of Evri!