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Barnacle
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Re: Merry Christmas Mr Thompson

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Surprising number of managers on here masquerading as one of the striking workforce. Little comments here and there to try and chip away at trust in the union and each other.

Sad really.
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Re: Merry Christmas Mr Thompson

Post by hazzeem025 »

Barnacle wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 09:07
Surprising number of managers on here masquerading as one of the striking workforce. Little comments here and there to try and chip away at trust in the union and each other.

Sad really.
Sad little maggots. They don't realise that Royal Mail is the only place they could have a job as a bully, sorry manager. Why would anywhere else put their talents of bullying and harassment to use? Pathetic creatures.
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Re: Merry Christmas Mr Thompson

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hawkeye622 wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 08:54
post6675 wrote:
25 Dec 2022, 12:25
mattick wrote:
25 Dec 2022, 12:12
Merry Christmas Simon :wave I hope Santa gave you a big bag of coal this year for being a very naughty boy! Enjoy your Harrods Turkey in your warm multi-million pound mansion whilst some of my colleagues sit in a cold house with no presents for their kids under the tree.
Honestly hope this is not true no one should go through that :sad: . Where is the strike fund?
Hope your kids have agreat xmas
Two guys in my DO tried to make use of the strike fund through our rep but to no avail. Needless to say the union letting them down in their time of need had them both back at work on Fri/Sat! Sad to see but I fully support them both!
This needs to be made a bigger deal tbh, where is that money going? i have not heard of anyone being able to access it and i have heard horrible things like you must show them bank statements to prove you are struggling. How is there not uproar about this? Relying on the public for the strike fund backfire? Not enough donations to it? i wish they say something. I dont blame them lads for going back to work , union have let them down they should leave it its unacceptable
FilthyBloke
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Re: Merry Christmas Mr Thompson

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post6675 wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 13:22
hawkeye622 wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 08:54
post6675 wrote:
25 Dec 2022, 12:25
mattick wrote:
25 Dec 2022, 12:12
Merry Christmas Simon :wave I hope Santa gave you a big bag of coal this year for being a very naughty boy! Enjoy your Harrods Turkey in your warm multi-million pound mansion whilst some of my colleagues sit in a cold house with no presents for their kids under the tree.
Honestly hope this is not true no one should go through that :sad: . Where is the strike fund?
Hope your kids have agreat xmas
Two guys in my DO tried to make use of the strike fund through our rep but to no avail. Needless to say the union letting them down in their time of need had them both back at work on Fri/Sat! Sad to see but I fully support them both!
This needs to be made a bigger deal tbh, where is that money going? i have not heard of anyone being able to access it and i have heard horrible things like you must show them bank statements to prove you are struggling. How is there not uproar about this? Relying on the public for the strike fund backfire? Not enough donations to it? i wish they say something. I dont blame them lads for going back to work , union have let them down they should leave it its unacceptable
One of the guys at my office asked the rep and heard nothing so messaged another rep from another office who gave him a number to call.
There was no answer when he called it apparently and I’m not sure if he’s heard anything since.
Iv told him not to give up contacting them as they are probably busy right now but I’m not sure if he’s still trying.
Dorset Plodder
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Re: Merry Christmas Mr Thompson

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post6675 wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 13:22

This needs to be made a bigger deal tbh, where is that money going? i have not heard of anyone being able to access it and i have heard horrible things like you must show them bank statements to prove you are struggling. How is there not uproar about this? Relying on the public for the strike fund backfire? Not enough donations to it? i wish they say something. I dont blame them lads for going back to work , union have let them down they should leave it its unacceptable
WTF are you going on about. THERE IS NO STRIKE FUND! 100 000 Posties go on Strike RM stops approx £100 per day for each Striker ... Do the sums... that's a lot of money. :shock: No way could the CWU afford to pay that out as "Strike Pay" :crazy:

What does exist is a "Hardship Fund" which can be accessed by contacting your Local Union Branch Office (details on the CWU notice board normally) If you have asked your Rep and he hasn't told you that then TBH he's at the best ill informed and at the worst bloody useless. :d'oh!

And what's so "Horrible" about having to produce a Bank Statement to prove your struggling? I would have thought that was the minimum requirement. My local branch secretarty has recieved several applications for access to The Hardship Fund, and he's sent out a form to each applicant with a list of questions to answer. He never recieved any back, so what's that tell you? :cuppa
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post6675
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Re: Merry Christmas Mr Thompson

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Dorset Plodder wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 16:43
post6675 wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 13:22

This needs to be made a bigger deal tbh, where is that money going? i have not heard of anyone being able to access it and i have heard horrible things like you must show them bank statements to prove you are struggling. How is there not uproar about this? Relying on the public for the strike fund backfire? Not enough donations to it? i wish they say something. I dont blame them lads for going back to work , union have let them down they should leave it its unacceptable
WTF are you going on about. THERE IS NO STRIKE FUND! 100 000 Posties go on Strike RM stops approx £100 per day for each Striker ... Do the sums... that's a lot of money. :shock: No way could the CWU afford to pay that out as "Strike Pay" :crazy:

What does exist is a "Hardship Fund" which can be accessed by contacting your Local Union Branch Office (details on the CWU notice board normally) If you have asked your Rep and he hasn't told you that then TBH he's at the best ill informed and at the worst bloody useless. :d'oh!

And what's so "Horrible" about having to produce a Bank Statement to prove your struggling? I would have thought that was the minimum requirement. My local branch secretarty has recieved several applications for access to The Hardship Fund, and he's sent out a form to each applicant with a list of questions to answer. He never recieved any back, so what's that tell you? :cuppa
Its utterly humiliating to send in bank statements proving your struggling , how on earth would that make you feel. No wonder people arent responding back to that humiliating process.
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Re: Merry Christmas Mr Thompson

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post6675 wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 18:34
Dorset Plodder wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 16:43
post6675 wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 13:22

This needs to be made a bigger deal tbh, where is that money going? i have not heard of anyone being able to access it and i have heard horrible things like you must show them bank statements to prove you are struggling. How is there not uproar about this? Relying on the public for the strike fund backfire? Not enough donations to it? i wish they say something. I dont blame them lads for going back to work , union have let them down they should leave it its unacceptable
WTF are you going on about. THERE IS NO STRIKE FUND! 100 000 Posties go on Strike RM stops approx £100 per day for each Striker ... Do the sums... that's a lot of money. :shock: No way could the CWU afford to pay that out as "Strike Pay" :crazy:

What does exist is a "Hardship Fund" which can be accessed by contacting your Local Union Branch Office (details on the CWU notice board normally) If you have asked your Rep and he hasn't told you that then TBH he's at the best ill informed and at the worst bloody useless. :d'oh!

And what's so "Horrible" about having to produce a Bank Statement to prove your struggling? I would have thought that was the minimum requirement. My local branch secretarty has recieved several applications for access to The Hardship Fund, and he's sent out a form to each applicant with a list of questions to answer. He never recieved any back, so what's that tell you? :cuppa
Its utterly humiliating to send in bank statements proving your struggling , how on earth would that make you feel. No wonder people arent responding back to that humiliating process.

There is also quite a common occurance of people saying they cant get through at all and being sent on random goose chases
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Re: Merry Christmas Mr Thompson

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FilthyBloke wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 15:27
post6675 wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 13:22
hawkeye622 wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 08:54
post6675 wrote:
25 Dec 2022, 12:25
mattick wrote:
25 Dec 2022, 12:12
Merry Christmas Simon :wave I hope Santa gave you a big bag of coal this year for being a very naughty boy! Enjoy your Harrods Turkey in your warm multi-million pound mansion whilst some of my colleagues sit in a cold house with no presents for their kids under the tree.
Honestly hope this is not true no one should go through that :sad: . Where is the strike fund?
Hope your kids have agreat xmas
Two guys in my DO tried to make use of the strike fund through our rep but to no avail. Needless to say the union letting them down in their time of need had them both back at work on Fri/Sat! Sad to see but I fully support them both!
This needs to be made a bigger deal tbh, where is that money going? i have not heard of anyone being able to access it and i have heard horrible things like you must show them bank statements to prove you are struggling. How is there not uproar about this? Relying on the public for the strike fund backfire? Not enough donations to it? i wish they say something. I dont blame them lads for going back to work , union have let them down they should leave it its unacceptable
One of the guys at my office asked the rep and heard nothing so messaged another rep from another office who gave him a number to call.
There was no answer when he called it apparently and I’m not sure if he’s heard anything since.
Iv told him not to give up contacting them as they are probably busy right now but I’m not sure if he’s still trying.
It is pure incompetence 'you want access to the funds we begged the public for after you have paid years and years of union subs? Then show us your bank statements and we will sift through your life and see if you are down and broke enough to access our money'
FilthyBloke
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Re: Merry Christmas Mr Thompson

Post by FilthyBloke »

post6675 wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 18:37
FilthyBloke wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 15:27
post6675 wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 13:22
hawkeye622 wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 08:54
post6675 wrote:
25 Dec 2022, 12:25
mattick wrote:
25 Dec 2022, 12:12
Merry Christmas Simon :wave I hope Santa gave you a big bag of coal this year for being a very naughty boy! Enjoy your Harrods Turkey in your warm multi-million pound mansion whilst some of my colleagues sit in a cold house with no presents for their kids under the tree.
Honestly hope this is not true no one should go through that :sad: . Where is the strike fund?
Hope your kids have agreat xmas
Two guys in my DO tried to make use of the strike fund through our rep but to no avail. Needless to say the union letting them down in their time of need had them both back at work on Fri/Sat! Sad to see but I fully support them both!
This needs to be made a bigger deal tbh, where is that money going? i have not heard of anyone being able to access it and i have heard horrible things like you must show them bank statements to prove you are struggling. How is there not uproar about this? Relying on the public for the strike fund backfire? Not enough donations to it? i wish they say something. I dont blame them lads for going back to work , union have let them down they should leave it its unacceptable
One of the guys at my office asked the rep and heard nothing so messaged another rep from another office who gave him a number to call.
There was no answer when he called it apparently and I’m not sure if he’s heard anything since.
Iv told him not to give up contacting them as they are probably busy right now but I’m not sure if he’s still trying.
It is pure incompetence 'you want access to the funds we begged the public for after you have paid years and years of union subs? Then show us your bank statements and we will sift through your life and see if you are down and broke enough to access our money'
I remember reading months Back about posties having to use food banks and such.
I wonder how strict the food banks are on making sure you are actually skint?
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Re: Merry Christmas Mr Thompson

Post by Barnacle »

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I remember reading months Back about posties having to use food banks and such.
I wonder how strict the food banks are on making sure you are actually skint?
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From what I gather, you can’t just walk into a food bank and use it. You are referred by either the DWP or the Tax Credit section of HMRC (or your doctor) and you have vouchers to use each week you need it. So your income and bank contents are assessed to determine whether you need the service.

Otherwise the system would be abused.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
FilthyBloke
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Re: Merry Christmas Mr Thompson

Post by FilthyBloke »

Barnacle wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 18:51
I remember reading months Back about posties having to use food banks and such.
I wonder how strict the food banks are on making sure you are actually skint?
[/quote]


From what I gather, you can’t just walk into a food bank and use it. You are referred by either the DWP or the Tax Credit section of HMRC (or your doctor) and you have vouchers to use each week you need it. So your income and bank contents are assessed to determine whether you need the service.

Otherwise the system would be abused.
[/quote]

Yeah I guessed it would be more than just walking up: I’m sure I read somewhere that social services are notified if children are involved and it was putting down families off?
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Re: Merry Christmas Mr Thompson

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the planet is fuc k ed its run by life forms.. with no purity... obsessed with money and power...

im off to another star system....
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Re: Merry Christmas Mr Thompson

Post by Halfhappy »

I have a friend who has had to use a food bank. She was very reluctant to do this and feels total shame in it. She had to go to the Dr's to get a voucher. She's allowed to use it once every 2 weeks... I think. She doesn't get that much, I don't think, I've never asked her. I try to help her out also, when I can. I had a real argument with two people, I know, over this issue, as the are of the belief people just abuse these services, same with the school meal vouchers. I had to point out to them, the additional £200 they got towards their fuel bills, each, they spent on led lighting for their kitchen, and a dishwasher. I am not, for one moment, suggesting it should be stopped. I just want to illustrate the point of endlessly going on about people abusing systems, it's futile. It happens across the board, through all generations, and in every system. For the most part it's not even realised. As long as the measures are hitting the people who need it, that is what is important. I can't help but think the shame and embarrassment of having to go to the Dr's, only added to my friends problems and mental state. All for what, so a handful of people don't go to a food bank who don't need to. I'm skeptical this even happens, it's not M&S. Anyways, sorry for the slightly long-winded and a little off topic post. I feel very strongly about it tho. When you see a the anguish of someone who's dear to you, it's hard not to feel that way. I hope you all had a good Christmas. Peace and love.
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Re: Merry Christmas Mr Thompson

Post by hawkeye622 »

Dorset Plodder wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 16:43
post6675 wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 13:22

This needs to be made a bigger deal tbh, where is that money going? i have not heard of anyone being able to access it and i have heard horrible things like you must show them bank statements to prove you are struggling. How is there not uproar about this? Relying on the public for the strike fund backfire? Not enough donations to it? i wish they say something. I dont blame them lads for going back to work , union have let them down they should leave it its unacceptable
WTF are you going on about. THERE IS NO STRIKE FUND! 100 000 Posties go on Strike RM stops approx £100 per day for each Striker ... Do the sums... that's a lot of money. :shock: No way could the CWU afford to pay that out as "Strike Pay" :crazy:

What does exist is a "Hardship Fund" which can be accessed by contacting your Local Union Branch Office (details on the CWU notice board normally) If you have asked your Rep and he hasn't told you that then TBH he's at the best ill informed and at the worst bloody useless. :d'oh!

And what's so "Horrible" about having to produce a Bank Statement to prove your struggling? I would have thought that was the minimum requirement. My local branch secretarty has recieved several applications for access to The Hardship Fund, and he's sent out a form to each applicant with a list of questions to answer. He never recieved any back, so what's that tell you? :cuppa

Give your bloody head a wobble!! Why should people need to show bank statements to prove they need help? We have lost a substantial amount of money over the past 12 weeks while on strike - at a time when all of our bills, food & fuel were going up in price and Christmas was on the horizon. If someone is asking for help from a 'Hardship fund' it's because they need help during these HARD times!! Do you ever think for a second how hard it would be to NEED to ask your rep to help you seek out funds only to be told you need to prove you have no money? Prove you can't heat your home or feed your family?

We're all struggling, some far more than others... if ppl ask for help, give them the f**king help or don't expect them to support the inevitable next ballot!!!
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Re: Merry Christmas Mr Thompson

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roadrunner bill wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 20:02
the planet is fuc k ed its run by life forms.. with no purity... obsessed with money and power...

im off to another star system....
Newsflash, the planet has always been fu*ked . For example just imagine how people felt in 1939 when Hitler's Nazi Germany invaded Poland . It seems the world just stumbles from one crisis to the next .