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CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.

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Rumple
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.

Post by Rumple »

Those already off sick, those whose day off it is, surely they couldn’t be dismissed. They wouldn’t be classed as on strike
koolishy67
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.

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I am going to cross on 24 just for 1 day
manchesterpunk
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.

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koolishy67 wrote:
22 Dec 2022, 16:05
I am going to cross on 24 just for 1 day
I’m having a right argument with myself right now about what to do.
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.

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freespeech wrote:
22 Dec 2022, 14:29
Acca Dacca wrote:
22 Dec 2022, 12:48
matthew68 wrote:
22 Dec 2022, 12:42
Well maybe they already discussed this and Thompson is possibly going to sac the lot of us under this technically . He will just bring in agency staff!
Yeah and all 100,000+ of us would just say “ah fair enough sure” and go off our merry ways

Some of you on here are mental
Fair point but I'm not sure the risk is 128,000 people. Surely it's those triggering the 12 week period on Saturday that are at risk? Given it's a non working day for a lot of people and others will attend work on a Sat anyway isn't the vulnerable number a lot less?

What is this 12 week thing....

Is it anything to do with the number of days you have been on strike for? or if the first day you went on strike and the last day you went on strike amounted to striking over a 12 week period...or something else?
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Sbutts8182
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.

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Royal Mail would have to give a warning wouldn’t they or how would people know? They’d have to come out with a statement “if you strike on Friday you are in breach of contract and you will be dismissed” surely?
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.

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Sbutts8182 wrote:
22 Dec 2022, 16:12
Royal Mail would have to give a warning wouldn’t they or how would people know? They’d have to come out with a statement “if you strike on Friday you are in breach of contract and you will be dismissed” surely?
Friday is not the issue you are covered then , this thread is about Saturday the 24th .
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.

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Sbutts8182 wrote:
22 Dec 2022, 16:12
Royal Mail would have to give a warning wouldn’t they or how would people know? They’d have to come out with a statement “if you strike on Friday you are in breach of contract and you will be dismissed” surely?
I think that it’s the union who should be giving out the warning has it’s the union who have been calling the strikes.
I think that the first post is some sort of warning.
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.

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Question - if some of the strike days fell on your day off, or you were on holiday - have you, technically, been on strike for 12 weeks??
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.

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Just stop worrying and enjoy your extended Christmas break. Dave said yesterday on the subject 'it ain't going to happen'.

And anyway, if Simon did put 128,000 letters in the post on Friday you wouldn't get them for another month at least :Very Happy
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.

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Rumple wrote:
22 Dec 2022, 15:59
Those already off sick, those whose day off it is, surely they couldn’t be dismissed. They wouldn’t be classed as on strike
Sorry Rumple, just seen you asked the same thing😂
jbo5066
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.

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And also didn't they cancel some strikes - the queen's death, the rolling strikes ...
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.

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Sack 50,000 or more posties. Would be a Public Relations nightmare.

Also, the raillways have been on strike longer and they haven't been all fired.

it's not going to happen.
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.

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Aardvark wrote:
22 Dec 2022, 16:41
Sack 50,000 or more posties. Would be a Public Relations nightmare.

Also, the raillways have been on strike longer and they haven't been all fired.

it's not going to happen.
:Applause
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.

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After 12 weeks, you can be dismissed if you take industrial action and your employer has tried to settle the dispute. For example, your employer may bring in advisers from Acas to help find a solution.


They have brought in Acas, but it seems they are only halfway through with those talks. The talks are going somewhere even if it is just words and Royal Mail can't be trusted until it's written into an agreement.

How could they sack people and say 'we tried to settle via Acas' when the talks are still in progress and both sides are seemingly taking steps forward.
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.

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Honestly this is starting to give me massive anxiety and worry now it’s upon us. Forgive me for not trusting the Cwu’s expert legal team :evil/mad but something doesn’t feel right. Why did Thompson have an absolute insistence on using ACAS? It certainly wasn’t to reach an agreement. Most likely it was to show he’s used a mediator to try settle this so he has the option of sacking and rehiring after the 12 weeks.
Seriously considering crossing the picket line on Saturday if we don’t have a cast iron guarantee from the union.
the union should cancel Saturdays strike is my thinking now.