No. Even with the proposed changes this job will suit me, at least for a while.postieblueshirt wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 17:05on your way to the jobcentre i hope to look for a better job.FilthyBloke wrote: ↑13 Dec 2022, 08:08I’ll be walking past the picket again. I’m not expecting it to be too busy on Christmas Eve.
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Christmas eve on the picket line - will you be there?
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FilthyBloke
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chrisj
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Re: Christmas eve on the picket line - will you be there?
Why is it so difficult for some people to believe that some folks don't see a problem with Royal Mail?
The people that don't want to abide by the employer really should look for a better job rather than those that are ready to soldier on.
The amount lost in backpay + strike days for even a 5% pay rise will take some of us more than 18 months 9% on a basic wage (overtime will dry up in a big way by February - talks of RM even giving more hours to agency B4 staff)
The people that don't want to abide by the employer really should look for a better job rather than those that are ready to soldier on.
The amount lost in backpay + strike days for even a 5% pay rise will take some of us more than 18 months 9% on a basic wage (overtime will dry up in a big way by February - talks of RM even giving more hours to agency B4 staff)
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smok3y666
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FilthyBloke
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Re: Christmas eve on the picket line - will you be there?
Agreed and that’s where I am really. When I first started the job I would be finished on a Saturday before 9.30 and still paid until half 12. And I wasn’t the quickest. My little bike duty was a doddle.chrisj wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 19:37Why is it so difficult for some people to believe that some folks don't see a problem with Royal Mail?
The people that don't want to abide by the employer really should look for a better job rather than those that are ready to soldier on.
The amount lost in backpay + strike days for even a 5% pay rise will take some of us more than 18 months 9% on a basic wage (overtime will dry up in a big way by February - talks of RM even giving more hours to agency B4 staff)
Van sharing changed things a little but eventually you found ways to still finish early or bag overtime if you wanted.
But these days now have been predicted by the union for years. Even under Rico bak. The union said a storm was coming.
But even with the changes that are proposed it will still be the most suitable job for me. If not I’ll get another that’s more suited.
But the business model is flawed. Changes are coming. If people want to fight then that’s fine. I don’t see my work colleagues as ‘comrades’ or ‘brothers’ and I don’t bother with the two sided propaganda as I’m just happy to go with the flow nowadays. People can call me whatever they want but I don’t give a damn. I just earn for my family and go home to them.
But if it was my business I would want changes. People leaving early is one gripe but the fact is so many people I know have abused these current terms and conditions it’s no wonder the CEO wants to rip them up.
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chrisj
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I actually thought that filthybloke will have been a relatively newish postie but talking about bikes and finishing before 12 or 9.30 surprised me.
A lot of people have actually lost touch with reality - some are fighting privatisation (10 years too late), some are moaning about the bosses , the government, the service and many other things including more money...
The dispute has lost all sense of proportion - we are striking at Christmas including 2 days before yet we are no closer to what we want (do t know what very want by the way).
Compulsory redundancy was not even a big issue before all these started and here we are trying to douse that flame...
A lot of people have actually lost touch with reality - some are fighting privatisation (10 years too late), some are moaning about the bosses , the government, the service and many other things including more money...
The dispute has lost all sense of proportion - we are striking at Christmas including 2 days before yet we are no closer to what we want (do t know what very want by the way).
Compulsory redundancy was not even a big issue before all these started and here we are trying to douse that flame...
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Acca Dacca
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Re: Christmas eve on the picket line - will you be there?
Why can’t you see that it is you that is in a very very very small minority?chrisj wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 19:37Why is it so difficult for some people to believe that some folks don't see a problem with Royal Mail?
The people that don't want to abide by the employer really should look for a better job rather than those that are ready to soldier on.
The amount lost in backpay + strike days for even a 5% pay rise will take some of us more than 18 months 9% on a basic wage (overtime will dry up in a big way by February - talks of RM even giving more hours to agency B4 staff)
Yet it’s US that should change our way of thinking?!
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Slim2none
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Re: Christmas eve on the picket line - will you be there?
I'm beginning to think that chrisj might be the guy with the sharpie and whiteboard!
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steelgers
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Re: Christmas eve on the picket line - will you be there?
If we drop the request for a wage rise does that mean that all the terms and conditions won't need to be changed ? Then Chris can soldier on. Or will Simon demand them anyway?
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ProudhonPJ
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Re: Christmas eve on the picket line - will you be there?
And you feel the need to tell us because..? No, really, that's not a rhetorical* question. Why do you feel the need to tell us?FilthyBloke wrote: ↑13 Dec 2022, 08:08I’ll be walking past the picket again. I’m not expecting it to be too busy on Christmas Eve.
*look up the word
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postieblueshirt
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Re: Christmas eve on the picket line - will you be there?
Clues in the name.ProudhonPJ wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 21:25And you feel the need to tell us because..? No, really, that's not a rhetorical* question. Why do you feel the need to tell us?FilthyBloke wrote: ↑13 Dec 2022, 08:08I’ll be walking past the picket again. I’m not expecting it to be too busy on Christmas Eve.
*look up the word
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Edward Hunter
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Re: Christmas eve on the picket line - will you be there?
Almost makes you wonder why on earth the company provoked all this aggro in the first place.I mean a well run company, needing a lot of change in a short time, would surely sweeten the staff to take them along on the journey, Not give away all the profits to shareholders, plead poverty, then batter loyal workers with a ridiculous 2% imposed pay rise and rip up all previous agreements.They wanted the fight to get rid of the union.Appalling nonsensical behaviour.chrisj wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 20:45I actually thought that filthybloke will have been a relatively newish postie but talking about bikes and finishing before 12 or 9.30 surprised me.
A lot of people have actually lost touch with reality - some are fighting privatisation (10 years too late), some are moaning about the bosses , the government, the service and many other things including more money...
The dispute has lost all sense of proportion - we are striking at Christmas including 2 days before yet we are no closer to what we want (do t know what very want by the way).
Compulsory redundancy was not even a big issue before all these started and here we are trying to douse that flame...
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postieblueshirt
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Re: Christmas eve on the picket line - will you be there?
Yip strange ways of working.The jobs f@cked either way.If you go you have to find another job if you stay the job you had will be terrible.And this is just the start.If they get there way all those that stay and those that work strike days be prepared to pick the best franchised duty going and a shiny white van coz that's your future.