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CWU live at 5.30

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A2B
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Re: CWU live at 5.30

Post by A2B »

I think RM will say that is a problem for someone else to deal with to be honest
themaze
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Re: CWU live at 5.30

Post by themaze »

The government aren't going to takeon/save royal mail .

They'll just give royal mail what they want re the uso.
norris9
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Re: CWU live at 5.30

Post by norris9 »

themaze wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 19:28
The government aren't going to takeon/save royal mail .

They'll just give royal mail what they want re the uso.
So this is the confusion...

1 dude has just said Royal Mail don't want letters at all.

this dude thinks Royal Mail will keep letters but thinks they can twist the government's leg so that they can do whatever they like with the USO....whether that's a 3 day letter service or what....


At the end of the day I guess the Union don't really know where it's potentially going, but they will definitely have some idea. I'd love to ask Dave Ward if he thinks there's a good possibility that letters gets taken on by the government again or maybe they at least subsidise the service as long as Royal Mail stick to the 6 day service.
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Re: CWU live at 5.30

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Rommagic wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 18:58
Cwu offered RM a deal too call off strikes etc and they rejected it.
Yes! i smelled something like that was in the offing, see my thread on 14th 15th PUNISHER strike dates
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Re: CWU live at 5.30

Post by DGH »

norris9 wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 19:43
a good possibility that letters gets taken on by the government again or maybe they at least subsidise the service as long as Royal Mail stick to the 6 day service.
I don't think anyone would think that a Conservative government that wails about the amount of debt and underfunding that the past Conservative governments have saddled us with (not that they phrase it that way . . . world events, all that bollocks) would be keen to subsidise even part of a company that they were glad to see hoofed into the private sector to be asset stripped.
Were the government to step in, I think we'd end up viewing ST's 'best and final offer' as something wonderful by comparison.
themaze
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Re: CWU live at 5.30

Post by themaze »

norris9 wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 19:43
themaze wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 19:28
The government aren't going to takeon/save royal mail .

They'll just give royal mail what they want re the uso.
So this is the confusion...

1 dude has just said Royal Mail don't want letters at all.

this dude thinks Royal Mail will keep letters but thinks they can twist the government's leg so that they can do whatever they like with the USO....whether that's a 3 day letter service or what....


At the end of the day I guess the Union don't really know where it's potentially going, but they will definitely have some idea. I'd love to ask Dave Ward if he thinks there's a good possibility that letters gets taken on by the government again or maybe they at least subsidise the service as long as Royal Mail stick to the 6 day service.
Why do you think the government wants to spend a penny on royal mail when they can just loosen the uso and it's not costing them a thing .
toonshola
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Re: CWU live at 5.30

Post by toonshola »

What was worrying about that update is that it seemed the union was willing to cancel strikes this week for very little guarantees in return. Doesn’t bode well for any future agreement that may be agreed, that’s if there even will be a deal. Seems Royal Mail will just plough on come what may.
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Re: CWU live at 5.30

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No new strike dates . They said about a re ballot in January, Does that mean the union is unsure that we are legaly protected after the 23 rd / 24th .

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Rommagic
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Re: CWU live at 5.30

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So when we go back on the 27th loads of time too catch up.
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Re: CWU live at 5.30

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Rommagic wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 20:10
So when we go back on the 27th loads of time too catch up.
Start on time...........finish on time..........catch up my arse
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Duesouth
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Re: CWU live at 5.30

Post by Duesouth »

qwerty2 wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 20:12
Rommagic wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 20:10
So when we go back on the 27th loads of time too catch up.
Start on time...........finish on time..........catch up my arse
Now only if every one done this, royal mail would have to think twice. Royal mail for many years has relied on most folk to do overtime especially at this time of the year.

Problem is if we keep on trying to clear the backlog only to win a few pennies and some brownie points for the manager's then this dispute will last longer.
Splappy_McSplap
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Re: CWU live at 5.30

Post by Splappy_McSplap »

CRIBMAD wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 19:20
ok, well great!...

so what does that mean.....

How is mail going to be passed on and who to?

As I keep saying - I'll be open to working as a Postie for the government even if I was on current pay and terms.

I have a feeling there would be a mass exodus of everyone with over 10 years service if that was an option.
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Re: CWU live at 5.30

Post by Gasman11 »

The company have abused the USO for years now , OFCOM have been missing in action and it's only going to get worse surely. They will gradually restructure the workforce with the owner driver model depleting local DOs in the process and it will become the norm for a duty to be delivered 3 days a week maximum due to the stretched resources.