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CWU : MESSAGE TO ALL CWU MEMBERS – SUPPORT THE STRIKES

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guardianangel
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Re: CWU : MESSAGE TO ALL CWU MEMBERS – SUPPORT THE STRIKES

Post by guardianangel »

The more he bullies the bigger our resolve,he will never win the dispute this way,our office is 100 % and are even more determined than ever before after the antics of Simon and his board,NO SURRENDER !!!!
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Post by guardianangel »

LouBarlow wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 05:28
broughts wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 05:07
It’s our jobs either way looking at the way things are panning out if we strike the deal goes or gets worse if we don’t strike then the deal is horrendous and un acceptable
Yup. People who think that continual striking will somehow lead to improved terms or even the status quo are looking more and more deluded. ST doesn’t need an agreement to bring about the changes he wants. I’m afraid the job is changing and we either accept it or move on. I’ve not worked a single strike day in the now 3 disputes we have been involved in, over the years, but I am seriously considering my options now, as sending members to London for a jolly, seems like the best tactic the union can come up with now - the sides seem further apart than ever, so what is the point?
He can bring in the changes but you can still strike under protest,it will have a detrimental effect if the company dont take the staff with them,it could be a long dispute,if you cant afford it and haven't the fight maybe its time to look for another job.
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Re: CWU : MESSAGE TO ALL CWU MEMBERS – SUPPORT THE STRIKES

Post by DirtyHarry »

Nobody, least of all, Thompson, will take any notice of bus loads of strikers from all over the country marching to RM headquarters.

It will be yet another futile gesture that will achieve exactly what the ridiculous votes of no confidence did last week, sweet f**k all.
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Re: CWU : MESSAGE TO ALL CWU MEMBERS – SUPPORT THE STRIKES

Post by Walter sobchak »

DirtyHarry wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 06:09
Nobody, least of all, Thompson, will take any notice of bus loads of strikers from all over the country marching to RM headquarters.

It will be yet another futile gesture that will achieve exactly what the ridiculous votes of no confidence did last week, sweet f**k all.
Just cross the picket line mate. That’s if you already haven’t.
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Re: CWU : MESSAGE TO ALL CWU MEMBERS – SUPPORT THE STRIKES

Post by LouBarlow »

guardianangel wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 05:45
LouBarlow wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 05:28
broughts wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 05:07
It’s our jobs either way looking at the way things are panning out if we strike the deal goes or gets worse if we don’t strike then the deal is horrendous and un acceptable
Yup. People who think that continual striking will somehow lead to improved terms or even the status quo are looking more and more deluded. ST doesn’t need an agreement to bring about the changes he wants. I’m afraid the job is changing and we either accept it or move on. I’ve not worked a single strike day in the now 3 disputes we have been involved in, over the years, but I am seriously considering my options now, as sending members to London for a jolly, seems like the best tactic the union can come up with now - the sides seem further apart than ever, so what is the point?
He can bring in the changes but you can still strike under protest,it will have a detrimental effect if the company dont take the staff with them,it could be a long dispute,if you cant afford it and haven't the fight maybe its time to look for another job.
I am as this job in its current state is done. Applying for VR obviously but doubtful I will get it as we are understaffed in our office.

The changes he is forcing through will lead to a reduction in needed staff which he will continue to cover with agency staff, especially once Christmas is over. Striking is achieving nothing while there are bodies to cover the work we are not doing with our wages funding it!
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Re: CWU : MESSAGE TO ALL CWU MEMBERS – SUPPORT THE STRIKES

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Walter sobchak wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 06:16
DirtyHarry wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 06:09
Nobody, least of all, Thompson, will take any notice of bus loads of strikers from all over the country marching to RM headquarters.

It will be yet another futile gesture that will achieve exactly what the ridiculous votes of no confidence did last week, sweet f**k all.
Just cross the picket line mate. That’s if you already haven’t.
And what, exactly makes you think I would, or ever have, cross a picket line. Go on, enlighten me.

This should be good. :cuppa
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Re: CWU : MESSAGE TO ALL CWU MEMBERS – SUPPORT THE STRIKES

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Quite a few weather bods predicting December 7 as the first snow of winter, as a beast from the east arrives
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Post by stevejm »

Redshadow wrote:
28 Nov 2022, 22:40
No strike fund for members on the breadline,no confirmation of legal protection for striking xmas eve but we can bus you to london for the day :arrrghhh
where's the strike fund coming from? - you pay what? £150? £200 per year in subs?
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rambo1 wrote:
28 Nov 2022, 22:49
Redshadow wrote:
28 Nov 2022, 22:40
No strike fund for members on the breadline,no confirmation of legal protection for striking xmas eve but we can bus you to london for the day :arrrghhh
Got a point there.
no he hasn't - a full coach probably works out at under £10 per person. What kind of strike fund does he think he's going to get paying £200/year?
As for whether we are legally protected - we are still 4 weeks away from that date - so a bit of patience is in order for all the anxious nellies
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Post by grchpo »

Can they organize a ballot & get a result in less than 4 weeks, I will wait & see but without it i am not going out. I have no doubt he will fire us.
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Re: CWU : MESSAGE TO ALL CWU MEMBERS – SUPPORT THE STRIKES

Post by CRIBMAD »

jeez nothing but gloom and doom ! get a grip everyone, this is what thompson wants.

look if we strike we may lose our jobs , if we simply give in then the job will not be worth doing anyway !

hold firm , you never know !
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Re: CWU : MESSAGE TO ALL CWU MEMBERS – SUPPORT THE STRIKES

Post by SpacePhoenix »

How long does the process for Rule 13 ballots (local ones) take? Could Rule 13 ballots be used to cover any gap between national ballots?
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Re: CWU : MESSAGE TO ALL CWU MEMBERS – SUPPORT THE STRIKES

Post by notts1862 »

This so called jolly to London on the 9th December. Who's going to man the picket lines ? and secondly instead of wasting our CWU funds on buses for a pointless excercise just give every paying member £100. This will soften the blow in losing money over striking..
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Re: CWU : MESSAGE TO ALL CWU MEMBERS – SUPPORT THE STRIKES

Post by rambo1 »

LouBarlow wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 06:23
guardianangel wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 05:45
LouBarlow wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 05:28
broughts wrote:
29 Nov 2022, 05:07
It’s our jobs either way looking at the way things are panning out if we strike the deal goes or gets worse if we don’t strike then the deal is horrendous and un acceptable
Yup. People who think that continual striking will somehow lead to improved terms or even the status quo are looking more and more deluded. ST doesn’t need an agreement to bring about the changes he wants. I’m afraid the job is changing and we either accept it or move on. I’ve not worked a single strike day in the now 3 disputes we have been involved in, over the years, but I am seriously considering my options now, as sending members to London for a jolly, seems like the best tactic the union can come up with now - the sides seem further apart than ever, so what is the point?
He can bring in the changes but you can still strike under protest,it will have a detrimental effect if the company dont take the staff with them,it could be a long dispute,if you cant afford it and haven't the fight maybe its time to look for another job.
I am as this job in its current state is done. Applying for VR obviously but doubtful I will get it as we are understaffed in our office.

The changes he is forcing through will lead to a reduction in needed staff which he will continue to cover with agency staff, especially once Christmas is over. Striking is achieving nothing while there are bodies to cover the work we are not doing with our wages funding it!
Gets me that people are striking one day then coming in on their day off the next to clear it up. Defies logic. And then the same people call strike breakers names!
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Re: CWU : MESSAGE TO ALL CWU MEMBERS – SUPPORT THE STRIKES

Post by Surreypostie »

I've supported the strikes and will continue to do so....

I will not be going on a jolly to London on the 9th. There is one video that keeps getting shown on news reports. Think it was somewhere in london, it looked like a massive street party, someone dressed up as Postman park dancing and Dave Ward dancing along. I'm all for keeping morale up but that was frankly embarrassing to watch. We are the only union that seems to do it.